V103 Rumblings

[secondchoice]

Maybe an urban ac station? WALR or WAMJ?

Both stations would make suspects, Cox would love to knock V103 down a notch, but CC has 105.3 which would make a good urban station. It would not be too hard to build an Urban or Urban AC around an established morning show. CC does do Urban in NYC WWPR, and Urban AC in Chicago WVAZ. 96.1 proved to me that CC Atlanta is willing to try to increase the value of it's Atlanta cluster. I personally question the 640 flip, but I have been wrong before.

 

[DToTheJ]

FRANK SKI IS OFFICIALLY OUT!

More from our pal Rodney Ho at the AJC:
http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2012/12/13/frank-ski-confirms-hes-leaving-v-103/

 

[wprt949]

Could radio-one replace joyner With frank SKI Joyner IS 63 IS it time for him too Hang the headphones up ?

 

[RhubarbFan]

I think he will syndicate,or he could go to Cox,but does Kiss want to go after a different audience?

 

[secondchoice]

I watched the Channel 2 noon newscast. I missed the first story but they had a reporter outside of Colony Square at about 5 minutes into the newscast. The story line was Frank wanted to go more "national" but V103 wanted him to "stay local".

 

[radioville]

I watched the Channel 2 noon newscast. I missed the first story but they had a reporter outside of Colony Square at about 5 minutes into the newscast. The story line was Frank wanted to go more "national" but V103 wanted him to "stay local".

 

[bringbackradio]

I watched the Channel 2 noon newscast. I missed the first story but they had a reporter outside of Colony Square at about 5 minutes into the newscast. The story line was Frank wanted to go more "national" but V103 wanted him to "stay local".

I thought Frank Ski was syndicated in Baltimore for a brief period after relocating to Atlanta.

The thing with CBS Radio is that it is not as keen on syndicated radio esp morning syndicated shows on its stations unless its urban AC. But they are willing to invest in their AM Drive product unlike its other corporate counterparts. I can name two examples of CBS Radio where syndication failed: If you look back at what happened with WJHM in Orlando, they tried Steve Harvey and Rickey Smiley and both have bitten the dust with listeners, and later lost its original audience since going rhythmic. Another case scenario was when Houston's Hot ac station KHMX tried Kidd Kraddick, and that has bitten the dust last month. And I can't think of any CBS-owned urbans that ever carried Doug Banks in the first incarnation (1997-2006).

 

[bringbackradio]

Maybe an urban ac station? WALR or WAMJ?

Both stations would make suspects, Cox would love to knock V103 down a notch, but CC has 105.3 which would make a good urban station. It would not be too hard to build an Urban or Urban AC around an established morning show. CC does do Urban in NYC WWPR, and Urban AC in Chicago WVAZ. 96.1 proved to me that CC Atlanta is willing to try to increase the value of it's Atlanta cluster. I personally question the 640 flip, but I have been wrong before.

WWVA would have to be eliminated for that to happen since it is under a top 40 couplet with WWPW. It would be hard to try and replicate an urban/rhythmic couplet for Atlanta like KMEL/KYLD in San Francisco or Cox-owned WCFB/WPYO in Orlando. But at least Cox had WALR/WBTS/WFOX for its urban audience chunk of the pie once; now its down to the former.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Frank Ski has a 6 month non-compete. I don't think Cox nor Radio One could afford Frank Ski's contract in general. Radio One couldn't afford Ryan Cameron's contract at HOT 107.9 so there is the proof in the pudding. Tom Joyner is Radio One's morning show for Urban AC syndication. Rickey Smiley along with Russ Parr is Radio One's Urban syndicated morning shows. Clear Channel just did major cuts and Steve Harvey is there Premium Choice Urban and Urban AC syndicated morning show. CBS did syndicate Frank Ski to Charleston, SC and Baltimore but he didn't do well in those markets. There is NO room for another Urban syndicated morning show period. Citadel tried with Big Boy's Neighborhood and it failed big time! I'm suprised the Clear Channel Atlanta Urban rumors are back From viewing various social sites, seems like Rickey Smiley has a bigger Atlanta listener base than I thought.

Hmmm, Frank SKi could build his own Urban stations under the "Frank Ski Brand"!

 

[rho01]

Rick Caffey confirmed with me that Frank Ski wanted a syndication deal they could not accommodate.

 

[kilamanjero]

Hate to say about somebody, but I believe Frank Ski is done with terrestrial radio. If Donnie Simpson with a huge fanbase he has, has yet to resurfaced on terrestrial radio then we know Frank Ski doesn't stand that much of a chance. CBS was the only company willing to pay urban radio personalities Ski and Simpson the type of salaries that they would accept in this era of terrestrial radio. Also look at the fact that the urban format is current in a state of retraction in a number of cities due to the corporate owners feeling that the rhythmic format with an urban-lean (like WPGC, WZMX, WMBX, KBFB, WDHT, WCKX, WHHH, KDGS etc.) is more profitable in the long run.

 

[donta1974]

Rick Caffey confirmed with me that Frank Ski wanted a syndication deal they could not accommodate.

CBS does not have the network of Urban stations to accommodate a syndication deal. He will have a hard time getting that deal with Smiley,Harvey, and Joyner out there.

 

[donta1974]

Hate to say about somebody, but I believe Frank Ski is done with terrestrial radio. If Donnie Simpson with a huge fanbase he has, has yet to resurfaced on terrestrial radio then we know Frank Ski doesn't stand that much of a chance. CBS was the only company willing to pay urban radio personalities Ski and Simpson the type of salaries that they would accept in this era of terrestrial radio. Also look at the fact that the urban format is current in a state of retraction in a number of cities due to the corporate owners feeling that the rhythmic format with an urban-lean (like WPGC, WZMX, WMBX, KBFB, WDHT, WCKX, WHHH, KDGS etc.) is more profitable in the long run.

And a lot of companies like to use syndication for morning drive. CBS Radio is one of the few companies that still have local morning drive shows on there stations.

 

[Da Mac QC]

Here's Frank & Wanda's press conference. Yes, Ryan Cameron is taking mornings, and CBS wanted V103 to remain a 'local' station, and F&W wanted to go national. http://www.urbaninsite.com/?p=24538

 

[HippieGuy]

Wanda Smith has no plans/intentions to follow Frank Ski. Last night on WXIA interview, she hinted that this is an opportunity to follow her true dream, that being a Comic..she always enjoyed stand-up comedy, having dabbled in it prior to V103

 

[radioville]

Here's Frank & Wanda's press conference. Yes, Ryan Cameron is taking mornings, and CBS wanted V103 to remain a 'local' station, and F&W wanted to go national. http://www.urbaninsite.com/?p=24538

For once I agree with a station over the personality. WVEE is too big to have a syndicated morning show and it would probably lose them money. Sounds like Frank made a mistake.

 

[bringbackradio]

Rick Caffey confirmed with me that Frank Ski wanted a syndication deal they could not accommodate.

CBS does not have the network of Urban stations to accommodate a syndication deal. He will have a hard time getting that deal with Smiley,Harvey, and Joyner out there.

Aside from WXYV in Baltimore, CBS from its Infinity days used to have KRBV (formerly KJMZ) in Dallas. With some exceptions, a syndicated urban show would never have the same chemistry on a rhythmic, and CBS has more rhythmics (pure and urban leaning) than urbans.

 

[donta1974]

Rick Caffey confirmed with me that Frank Ski wanted a syndication deal they could not accommodate.

CBS does not have the network of Urban stations to accommodate a syndication deal. He will have a hard time getting that deal with Smiley,Harvey, and Joyner out there.

Aside from WXYV in Baltimore, CBS from its Infinity days used to have KRBV (formerly KJMZ) in Dallas. With some exceptions, a syndicated urban show would never have the same chemistry on a rhythmic, and CBS has more rhythmics (pure and urban leaning) than urbans.

CBS got WXYV after Grahnum Communications had destroyed it by ironically not resigning then massively popular Baltimore jock Frank Ski to a new contract to do the then V-103(Baltimore) morning show which is ironic. If you ask Frank he would tell you that he could do morning drive on a crossover station. The playlist is slightly different between Urban and an Urban leaning Rhythmic but not that different as opposed to a full blown CHR/POP station and you can daypart a Rhythmic(crossover during the day after 6pm straight Urban).Give CBS Radio credit however they are one of the few radio companies that still do local morning drive shows I think that It was more of them not wanting to syndicate Frank`s show as opposed to them being unable to do it. IMO CBS is not real big on syndicated morning drive shows.

 

[htowler]

I thought Frank Ski was syndicated in Baltimore for a brief period after relocating to Atlanta.

WXYV X105.7 Has was but the station flipped to Howard Stern and Rock Music as Live 105. If Howard wasn't so hot back then maybe X105.7 would still be on the air and Maybe Ski too. X was way more Hip Hop than V103 at the time. X was one of CBSs few straight up Urban stations with almost NO Rhythmic lean to it.

 

[kilamanjero]

Hate to say about somebody, but I believe Frank Ski is done with terrestrial radio. If Donnie Simpson with a huge fanbase he has, has yet to resurfaced on terrestrial radio then we know Frank Ski doesn't stand that much of a chance. CBS was the only company willing to pay urban radio personalities Ski and Simpson the type of salaries that they would accept in this era of terrestrial radio. Also look at the fact that the urban format is current in a state of retraction in a number of cities due to the corporate owners feeling that the rhythmic format with an urban-lean (like WPGC, WZMX, WMBX, KBFB, WDHT, WCKX, WHHH, KDGS etc.) is more profitable in the long run.

And a lot of companies like to use syndication for morning drive. CBS Radio is one of the few companies that still have local morning drive shows on there stations.

True, but let's be honest CBS has now only 4 actual urban stations (WVEE, WPEG, WBAV, and WUUB). Basically, V-103 and Power 98FM are the only true 'urbans' with local morning shows. WPGC would be considered the 5th with a local morning show, but they are trying their best to not be an urban anymore (contrary to their overall programming and promotional strategy along with their market composition). Also they unloaded heritage urban station, WBLK, in Buffalo like dead weight in 2006 although it was a market leader there as well (but an exception to the rule because they added Tom Joyner in the mid 00s).

I give them props for investing in the local morning drive on their urban stations, but they are way too conservative these days with the number of urban properties. CBS could expand on that urban format in Houston, which a major market with a large black audience in dire need of another urban outlet, but their focus nowadays with the urban/rhythmic division is banking on the moneymakers, WVEE and WPGC.