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Vanessa Ruiz out at 12 News

Prescott Joe said:
Note to self: Channel 12 has news.
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Well, it is "news". 12 News Today has been re-titled "12 Today" and might have a little news in there somewhere. If you want a chuckle, watch 12 News at 10 tonight on "just one station" and "only on 12 News at 10". Aside from all the glitz, the story selection is actually interesting at 10, given that I've already heard about most of the top stories.
 
Raymie said:
TEGNA has some corporate culture problems.

You're lucky we're not talking WTSP. Hoo boy, the format they launched this week is a real kludge.
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It's easy to criticize TEGNA and they deserve a lot of it. However, they do get some credit for trying to find a viable news format for millennials. Clearly, the "standard" newscast format is not working for the 18-34 demographic.
 
Just a thought. Since so called "millennials" seem to want something other than a "standard"
newscast, why continue to call it "news.?" I am certain someone could come up with another name. The news, as I always had known it, was something that was suppose to be factual and unbiased. Seems like those are in short supply these days. When I hear the word "outrage," or similar, I change channels because I know that story is not based in fact............. Perhaps "millennials" would prefer the term "fantasy report" or perhaps "propaganda report."
 
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formeraa said:
It's easy to criticize TEGNA and they deserve a lot of it. However, they do get some credit for trying to find a viable news format for millennials. Clearly, the "standard" newscast format is not working for the 18-34 demographic.
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Why would a station, indeed an industry, try to find a "viable news format" for a group of people who (a) don't give a crap about the content, (b) don't have the knowledge to appreciate the content, (c) living in mom's basement don't have the assets to buy whatever the sponsor is selling and (d) can't sit still long enough.

And none of the above criticizes the "news" content but it should. TV stations in general and networks specifically don't inform me in enough detail what the hell is going on that is important to me. Car crashes and house fires don't count and neither does the latest "entertainment" news featuring wild haired and tatted losers.

And you wonder why I don't care about the talking heads!
 
landtuna said:
Why would a station, indeed an industry, try to find a "viable news format" for a group of people who (a) don't give a crap about the content, (b) don't have the knowledge to appreciate the content, (c) living in mom's basement don't have the assets to buy whatever the sponsor is selling and (d) can't sit still long enough.
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That was true 40 years ago, when I was in that age group, just as it is today. I was more of a news junkie, but most folks my age didn't care. We were either in school or working for a living (and rarely "living in Mom's basement, because most of us were kicked out by then). Most young adults did not care about watching the news.

In 1977, just as in 2017, there was almost no news audience among the youngest group of adults, at least not until they settled down, got married, and/or had kids and stayed home a whole lot more. That happens a whole lot later now than it did then. IMHO, any news organization that is trying to target 18-30 is flat-out insane. 30-and-up, maybe, but no younger.
 
They had to drag her out of the building, just like United Airlines dragged off that Doctor on the over booked flight.

It was an embarrassing mess.But none the less, they got her out of the building and out into the street.
 
KeithE4 said:
IMHO, any news organization that is trying to target 18-30 is flat-out insane. 30-and-up, maybe, but no younger.
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Yep!

That applies to radio, too.

When I was a young teen, whenever news came on one of the Top 40 station, I switched to one of the others (the market had three).

Of course, I understood that they did news because the FCC required us to do things the listeners did not want or like. So, a few years later, I put my first station on the air, I did no news at all.
 
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1069_KIFR said:
They had to drag her out of the building, just like United Airlines dragged off that Doctor on the over booked flight.

It was an embarrassing mess.But none the less, they got her out of the building and out into the street.
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Apparently so! I just saw a 12 News promo with Lester Holt. It only mentioned Mark and Caribe. So, I guess Caribe is the permanent co-anchor now.
 
DavidEduardo said:


Yep!

That applies to radio, too.

When I was a young teen, whenever news came on one of the Top 40 station, I switched to one of the others (the market had three).
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I don't know if you recall a 1966 Top 40 hit by the Cyrkle called "Turn-Down Day." It describes, basically, a day spent doing practically nothing and the pleasure it brings. There's a line in it about hanging out on the beach: "Someone's radio has the news tuned in / but nobody cares what he's saying." As an 11-year-old, I could identify with that line completely. Nothing was more aggravating than listening to my favorite music station -- which, at that time, was WBZ -- only to hear the news come on at the top of each hour. A couple of years later, the "20/20 news" on WRKO was an instant trigger to flip to WMEX.

All this wasn't because I didn't have any interest in the news -- I did, I read the newspaper at a very early age and went into the newspaper business. I just didn't want to have the news coming between me and the Beatles, the Temptations, the Monkees, etc. on the radio. By the time I got to college, I preferred album rock, and I don't recall my station of choice, WOUR (Utica, NY), having any newscasts.
 
Perhaps it was a function of growing up in the Pacific Northwest in the rain, but my friends and I liked to listen to the news (of course, we were most interested in sports and weather). And, no, we weren't all nerdy types or intellectual types either! Even those friends who were less inclined to watch television news certainly did so by their early 20's. It's quite interesting to hear others' differing experiences.
 
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