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Venus... Any thoughts

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mikeydspins

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When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included. Now that is here and had been around for a while any thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by NotSoSilentBob on 11/15/05 03:32 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included.
> Now that is here and had been around for a while any
> thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in
> Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...
>

Thoughts? Sure. They'll sound better when they sign off.
 
> When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included.
> Now that is here and had been around for a while any
> thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in
> Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...
>
They have one of my wifes presets in her car. Isn't that what counts?

Nock
 
> When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included.
> Now that is here and had been around for a while any
> thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in
> Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...

I like the music. I hate the satellite programming at night. I don't like the name of the station. Why are they marketing only to females? Most of the music is rock-oriented Hot AC which appeals to a lot of males too.

All in all, I think they could have made a better move than choosing on Hot AC. Rhythmic CHR would have done better. But I think they could have made a killing by going smooth jazz!
 
I don't even consider 102.5 to be a Nashville station. That's how bad it is. It needs to go where it belongs: Clarksville.



> When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included.
> Now that is here and had been around for a while any
> thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in
> Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...
> <P ID="signature">______________
Bob
Moderator, Nashville board
Radio-Info.com--Always Tuned In

"I don't spread rumors, but I sometimes make outrageous speculations with no factual basis."</P>
 
Any thoughts

Only bad ones. Very mediocre. Doesn't sound well concepualized and the imaging is so-so.

Hot AC? Didn't work on 97.1 (or most other places around the country, for that matter). CHR/Rhythmic- ick. Already tried/failed.

I'm tellin' ya- SOUTHERN GOSPEL, as they're doing successfully in Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis and other markets. A KILLING to be made!
>
> Thoughts? Sure. They'll sound better when they sign off.
>
 
> When Venus first came we all laughed at it, me included.
> Now that is here and had been around for a while any
> thoughts????? The format has alot of potental here in
> Nashville, but i think Cromwell is going aboout it wrong...
>
I think their billboards look like they're for a strip club which won't appeal to most women I know (and isn't that the target audience?).<P ID="signature">______________
Until it happens, it hasn't happened.</P>
 
Re: Any thoughts

> I'm tellin' ya- SOUTHERN GOSPEL, as they're doing
> successfully in Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis and other
> markets. A KILLING to be made!
> >

Southern Gospel. Huh? Might work. Could you imagine that
in Nashville on a Cromwell station?

I am sure I'll really catch it for this one. But, anyone
remotely associated with 102.5 (still, despite the shift
toward female listeners) and The Buzz (rocks) knows that
the bulk of advertising is strip clubs and adult bookstores.

I can hear it now ... "Listen to our devilish sister station
The Buzz ... sponsored by Ken's Gold Club and Hustler
Hollywood. Now back to more great Southern Gospel on 102.5
The Angel."

To top it off, they probably could still run a few 102.5 The Party
ID's for good measure.

Sorry, not really trying to offend. Just trying to make a
point about how bottom of the barrel these stations are.
Anything, it seems, is possible on Murfreesboro Road. Yikes!
 
Re: Any thoughts

> I'm tellin' ya- SOUTHERN GOSPEL, as they're doing
> successfully in Atlanta

Umm ... HUH?
 
Gospel-Nashville

well, the good news is most of the successful Gospel stations I'm referring to (Memphis, Atlanta, Montgomery, Birmingham) are on less than ideal sticks- the signal not being perfect is really a non-issue, since those who love these stations will seek them out and listen through a little static to hear them.

(reminds me of the old days of AM top 40 being successful on 1240 am at 1kw daytime, 250w at night!)

>
> Southern Gospel. Huh? Might work. Could you imagine that
> in Nashville on a Cromwell station?
>
> I am sure I'll really catch it for this one. But, anyone
> remotely associated with 102.5 (still, despite the shift
> toward female listeners) and The Buzz (rocks) knows that
> the bulk of advertising is strip clubs and adult bookstores.
>
>
> I can hear it now ... "Listen to our devilish sister station
>
> The Buzz ... sponsored by Ken's Gold Club and Hustler
> Hollywood. Now back to more great Southern Gospel on 102.5
> The Angel."
>
> To top it off, they probably could still run a few 102.5 The
> Party
> ID's for good measure.
>
> Sorry, not really trying to offend. Just trying to make a
> point about how bottom of the barrel these stations are.
> Anything, it seems, is possible on Murfreesboro Road. Yikes!
>
 
I think their billboards look like they're for a strip club
which won't appeal to most women I know (and isn't that the
target audience?).

I thought their billboard was for Second Harvest Food Bank.
See if you don't think the logo looks like a large plate!<P ID="signature">______________
but wait...there's more!</P>
 
Re: Gospel-Nashville

> well, the good news is most of the successful Gospel
> stations I'm referring to (Memphis, Atlanta, Montgomery,
> Birmingham)

I'm still trying to figure out who you're referring to as a "succesful gospel station" in Atlanta.
 
Re: Any thoughts

> I am sure I'll really catch it for this one. But, anyone
> remotely associated with 102.5 (still, despite the shift
> toward female listeners) and The Buzz (rocks) knows that
> the bulk of advertising is strip clubs and adult bookstores.
>
>
> I can hear it now ... "Listen to our devilish sister station
>
> The Buzz ... sponsored by Ken's Gold Club and Hustler
> Hollywood. Now back to more great Southern Gospel on 102.5
> The Angel."
>
> To top it off, they probably could still run a few 102.5 The
> Party
> ID's for good measure.
>
> Sorry, not really trying to offend. Just trying to make a
> point about how bottom of the barrel these stations are.
> Anything, it seems, is possible on Murfreesboro Road. Yikes!

I have browsed this board quite a bit since coming back to Nashville to work, and I have to say, you guys become more and more ignorant as time goes on. For you to actually say that the "bulk of advertising" is strip clubs and adult bookstores is the most assinine comment I have seen in awhile and just goes to show that you have NO IDEA of what you are talking about. You guys here are more about bashing radio stations than actually discussing the market, but I guess it is the nature of the business. You guys talk numbers that make yourself look good and fit in to what you believe. Your regular attempts at bashing Venus and the Buzz seem more like bitterness than educated and constructive crticism. Continue to hate, continue to bash, Venus will pave it's own way and we will see where it lands, Buzz already is turning out to be THE rock station of Nashville, don't think so? Check the numbers, and not just 12+, check 18-34, check target audience numbers, if you know anything about radio and advertising you know target demo numbers are the important numbers. Don't believe me? Then you have never talked to an agency who buys advertisement. You "try to make a point of how bottom of the barrel" Venus and the Buzz are, that spot is reserved for some of the people there on Music Row. Enjoy your bitterness.
 
Re: Any thoughts

The preceding post has been brought to you by The Cromwell Group, representing everything that is right with radio.<P ID="signature">______________
Bob
Moderator, Nashville board
Radio-Info.com--Always Tuned In

"I don't spread rumors, but I sometimes make outrageous speculations with no factual basis."</P>
 
Re: Any thoughts

Ooohh, touchy, ain't he?

Of course, most of us posting here DO know a lot of what he or she says is true. We DO know target demo numbers are the important numbers. Some of us deal with agencies on a daily basis.

However, many of us who work in this market, and live in this market, don't think much of certain types of advertising. Most stations in this area don't accept these types of advertisements. When stations do accept them, they stand out -- we probably think they run them more than they do because of that -- but they still stand out like a sore thumb.

Many of us who work in this market often come into contact on a professional basis with employees of other stations. Unfortunately, my contacts with employees of the stations in question have been far from pleasant. It leaves a bad impression on the way I think of those stations.

My job includes caring about numbers. But when I myself think of certain stations as being "bottom of the barrel," I'm not thinking about numbers. I'm thinking about that station's personality, their on-air brand, and the values and actions of the employees. And I'm thinking the people who are putting forth stations like these, in a market such as this, are the ones who really don't know the market or the people who represent those numbers.

Maybe the writer is passionate enough about the stations to make things better there. Let's hope so.
 
Re: Gospel-Nashville

> Southern Gospel
> stations I'm referring to (Memphis, Atlanta, Montgomery,
> Birmingham)

Nashville already has a Southern Gospel FM, at 104.9 & 105.1.

The successful gospel stations you are referring to in Memphis, Birmingham, and Montgomery are NOT Southern Gospel stations. They are African-American Gospel. BIG difference in musical genre and target market.
 
Nashville

WPZE-FM.

BTW- the two Salem stations are not in the same Gospel vein as these others I refer to (not to mention the fact they can barely generate an 0.5 between the two signals).

>
> I'm still trying to figure out who you're referring to as a
> "succesful gospel station" in Atlanta.
>
 
Re: Any thoughts

> The preceding post has been brought to you by The Cromwell
> Group, representing everything that is right with radio.
>


Actually, brought to you by just 1 person who works for Cromwell, and a person who has worked on Music Row as well, I don't speak for anyone but myself.

Bob are you this arrogant in real life? If so, I feel sorry for the people that know you.

Keep flamin'!
 
Re: Any thoughts

> Ooohh, touchy, ain't he?
>
> Of course, most of us posting here DO know a lot of what he
> or she says is true. We DO know target demo numbers are the
> important numbers. Some of us deal with agencies on a daily
> basis.
>
> However, many of us who work in this market, and live in
> this market, don't think much of certain types of
> advertising. Most stations in this area don't accept these
> types of advertisements. When stations do accept them, they
> stand out -- we probably think they run them more than they
> do because of that -- but they still stand out like a sore
> thumb.
>
> Many of us who work in this market often come into contact
> on a professional basis with employees of other stations.
> Unfortunately, my contacts with employees of the stations in
> question have been far from pleasant. It leaves a bad
> impression on the way I think of those stations.
>
> My job includes caring about numbers. But when I myself
> think of certain stations as being "bottom of the barrel,"
> I'm not thinking about numbers. I'm thinking about that
> station's personality, their on-air brand, and the values
> and actions of the employees. And I'm thinking the people
> who are putting forth stations like these, in a market such
> as this, are the ones who really don't know the market or
> the people who represent those numbers.
>
> Maybe the writer is passionate enough about the stations to
> make things better there. Let's hope so.

I understand what you are saying jetfli, but that is a matter of opinion. If someone was totally against alcohol, then any station that ran a beer ad, or a bar ad would be "bottom of the barrel." It's a matter of perception. When the values and actions of employees become the basis of how you perceive a station, look out, because radio is full of jackasses, no matter what building they work in. If I based my overall opinion of you guys and your stations by the people I have met from there and worked with, then our opinion of each other would probably be the same. I saw more BS, and more backstabbing low down dirty tactics when I was working downtown. I am not "outside looking in" here, I speak from experience. I have learned one very important thing in my years in radio, no station is perfect and WE ALL have problems and issues that we must face, no matter where we work. People just always like to point fingers at others so they can forget about their own problems and issues. Point out what others are doing wrong, rather than dealing with the problems in their own company, it's easier to point out other's mistakes than your own. And you are right, I am passionate about my job, my career. I take it personal, because this job supports me and my family, and their is nothing more personal than my family to me. I work hard to better myself and the company I work for. Like I said, WE ALL have problems, but that is the nature of radio, constantly evolving, changing, and we have to adapt through trial and error. Anyone who says they have radio figured out, knows nothing, a person who admits they are constantly learning new things and are TRYING to figure it out, knows more than they think. And jetfli, thanks for your response, we may agree to disagree, but at least we agree on something. It's refreshing to debate a point with someone whose number one trait doesn't seem to be arrogance. Take care.
 
NOW I get it.

> WPZE-FM.

... which has a Black Gospel format.

I was going on your post earlier, which mentioned "SOUTHERN GOSPEL", which is a totally different animal. Hence my confusion.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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