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VINCE ROWE SHOW(E) MOVES

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klifhanger

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His press release;

A Special Message from Vince Rowe of OTA Texas:

It is without regret that I announce today that I will be leaving BizRadio
as a "host" to explore a path that has been in the works for the better
part
of six months. This undertaking was driven by listeners, students, and my
strong desire to keep my morals intact. I know some will think this action
is a marketing tactic or has some hidden agenda attached. That cannot be
helped. I can tell you with my integrity intact that it is not marketing or
has any unstated agenda, and you'll only have blind faith to go on in that.

From the days in what I affectionately call the "Double-wide" radio station
in Southern Dallas to being on ABC, the journey has been amazing. The people
at BizRadio have been nothing but encouraging. They have tried their best to
make the "Showe" what it has become with what they have. I want to thank
each and every one of them. They have come to be friends of mine and I even
consider some family. I will miss working with them on a daily basis as I
have for the last year-and-a-half. I salute them.

With this chapter closed, the next has opened with me focusing on my
original plan for radio, a new blog site, and a renewed focus on making my
"educational rants" available via as many audio outlets as possible using
bleeding (if not leading?) edge technology.

Here is where you will soon be able to continue to subject yourself to my
rants and raves, trading ideas and skills, and tirades about the "Snake Oil
Guys".

1) Beginning Monday October 9, 2006 in Dallas, I will be hosting the Vince
Rowe Radio Show on 1360 AM from 6 to 7 P.M. (The air time on this frequency
is owned by a Hispanic Christian Broadcaster and he was glad to sell the
hour â€" I couldn't have a better 12 hours of opening acts for my show
in
the world). This show will have significantly more air time, the same cast
of characters from around the world that you have come to know and love as
contributors and many special guests that my new team members have already
lined up.

2) Beginning Monday October 16, 2006 in Houston, I can be heard live on CNN
650 AM from 11 AM to Noon. (This station has many advantages in the coming
months on the technological side of the show so it made sense to be on the
forefront of this wave). This show will have significantly longer segments
and will not have any restrictions on content or guest lists.

3) Daniel Frishberg (BizRadio Host and Executive Producer) and I agreed that
though I would not be a "host" on his station, I would still be a regular
contributor. This will include educational vignettes, "live" contributions
to Brent's, Michael's and his show, as well as a pillar in their events
and
activities.

4) www.vincerowe.biz will be launched in the next few days if it is not up
and running already ( .com and .net will work also). The site will use some
of the latest technology. For example, if someone has access to the
internet, that someone will be able to see live charts, graphs and
information either during the live broadcast format or on a delayed basis
via streaming media.

5) We have many more surprises up our sleeves that will be offered for the
price of my favorite "F" word…FREE! You will have to listen into the
show and contribute to helping others become skilled so as not to donate
your hard earned money to the other educated participants in the financial
markets.

If you have followed along thus far, I thank you.

Please do not hesitate to write with your comments and suggestions. If you
would like to know more about our future plans, please feel free to call me,
my contact details are on the signature block below.


Vincent M Rowe
PRESIDENT - OTA Texas
P [email protected]
v www.tradingacademy.com
w 888-OTAATTEnd (682-2883) ext 101 | Toll Free
8 972-915- 6973 | Fax


Vince's show is one that explains things without the usual "Business man's lingo" Its more suited for a listener who normally doesn't listen to business shows, or talk shows in general. It will be interesting to see how far this will go. One thing that stands out,his show in Dallas is on a Bizradio affiliate and will air after that day's BizRadio Network programming.
 
Frishberg got smart and realized that a paid program focused on Casino Gambling masked in learning how to short sell and trade on margin was not the most informative or ethical program to anchor the BizRadio morning drive. As posted by Mike O in another thread, Frishberg also needs to prepare to ask for more investor money as his lease option-to-buy nears a year from this Feb. As for Vince Rowe, he has every right to sell anything he wants on the radio and his letter is courteous to the BizRadio folks and he should be commended for that. Many others would not have been so kind after being booted. As for my opinion, I used to short sell, trade options and play in other risky investments and no matter what Rowe sells there is NO proven program, NOR WILL THERE EVER BE that will enable you to make money at this long term. The odds for winning long term is about the same as a professional craps player enjoys in the casino. What Rowe teaches is dangerous and the average person that invests in his program will lose his/her ass in the long run to the point of losing everything. I hail Frishberg for giving him the boot and moving Mike Norman into his hour. As I posted prior, BizRadio is on the comeback and I hope Frishberg gets the investor support to keep the station next year.
 
adguy said:
Frishberg got smart and realized that a paid program focused on Casino Gambling masked in learning how to short sell and trade on margin was not the most informative or ethical program to anchor the BizRadio morning drive. As posted by Mike O in another thread, Frishberg also needs to prepare to ask for more investor money as his lease option-to-buy nears a year from this Feb. As for Vince Rowe, he has every right to sell anything he wants on the radio and his letter is courteous to the BizRadio folks and he should be commended for that. Many others would not have been so kind after being booted. As for my opinion, I used to short sell, trade options and play in other risky investments and no matter what Rowe sells there is NO proven program, NOR WILL THERE EVER BE that will enable you to make money at this long term. The odds for winning long term is about the same as a professional craps player enjoys in the casino. What Rowe teaches is dangerous and the average person that invests in his program will lose his/her ass in the long run to the point of losing everything. I hail Frishberg for giving him the boot and moving Mike Norman into his hour. As I posted prior, BizRadio is on the comeback and I hope Frishberg gets the investor support to keep the station next year.
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Adguy, do you think that maybe Frishberg finally got "smart" and is allowing Brent Clanton to do the job that he was hired for in the beginning? If so, Brent could well turn the station around by next summer and make BizRadio the station it was meant to be and even make the ratings. Brent might even be able to find a way to expand the hours to 7 or 8pm as originally planned. If you would rather not answer this for some business reasons, I understand.


Mike O
 
Mike O: I don't have any relationship with BizRadio. I only know Frishberg from a client's dealing with him well over a year and half ago, but from what I do know, I seriously doubt that Clanton has any more control than he did, in fact he probably has less. Frishberg hired Ron Barshop as a CEO or COO or some corp title and from what I hear that is who has the power over there. Barshop comes from San Antonio where his family founded and long-time owned La Quinta. From what I understand Barshop has a strong business background, but no broadcast background. I can only surmise that Barshop and Frishberg through Barshop are listening to good programming advise from Clanton and others. I even hear more paid commercials now than I ever did previously. Sounds like someone is doing something right over there for a change, but knowing Frishberg as I do, there is no way he has given up any control to anyone. He just may be wising up to what you suggested in another thread. I agree with you that he sees Feb 08 coming up just around the corner and needs to show something in terms of a stronger station with good programming and maybe a ratings showing somewhere. BizRadio does not subscribe to Arbitron, but they know any rating point, whether or not they can discuss it will mean ad dollars. I'm sure Frishberg, now that it is approaching crunch time to buy the station with his purchase option, is starting to listen to advise contrary to his thinking, which has never been sound when it comes to marketing and programming. Bottom-line, Frishberg is a financial professional, NOT a broadcast professional and as soon as he realizes that fact his station has the opportunity to make it in the hands of real broadcast professionals. I suspect he is listening to the pros, which includes Clanton and others, but he still makes the decisions I'm sure.
 
Oh Ad Guy;
Rowe read this and has made 6-figures a year for the past 11 years trading
with his style, and he is willing to show you his trading record and tax statement to
prove it, should you have the skills to unveil, and show him your credentials to be
a critic. Add to this, he wouldn't ask anyone to do something that he wouldn't
do live in the markets every week right in front of a room full of people. Obviously
adguy has not attended any of the free classes, and tried some "system".
BTW, Vince has an alumni group meeting this week where 7 of the folks there have made
7-figures this year having learnt "skills" rather than just having knowledge.
Apparently you are one angry man that likes to spout off from uninformed positions, in regards to Bizradio. Now go to his on line trading academy website, cal lthe number asked to meet him and see what you get.
 
Oh Klifhanger,
Adguy makes perfect sense! I agree, that if it sounds too good to be true, then.... I am in the camp that Rowe's show was not the best fit for BizRadio in that buying options and short-selling are extremely risky investment options that the average investor should stay away from. That's great that Rowe made 6 to 7 figures for 11 straight years, but like all the infomercial hucksters, they all make their big money from selling their ideas to others who pay the money and most of the time do nothing with the information or find that it's not as easy as the classroom/textbood says it is.
 
The answer to adguy,a consistent critic of Bizradio, is the same for you too.
Go To Vince's web site. Contact him,he'll Provide proof,and information to verify what he says,etc. The opportunity is there to either prove you or him correct. Take the challenge, or sit back and continue to berate.
 
I wonder what Brent Clanton's contract with BizRadio 1320 is, three years? With KFNC going Sports come January, KBME really doesn't stand a good chance as the third Sports station, but with an excellent signal 24/7 over metro Houston if they could get get Brent Clanton to run 790 as a Business News-Talk station 24/7 he would blow KXYZ out of the water.

Brent would have a fulltime signal and the financial backing of Clear Channel, who would likely spend more money on a Business format on 790 than Frishberg is on 1320. Brent could make 790 the the Business station and 1320 will become a distant memory by mid/late 2007.

Clear's options on 790 aren't that great and Business News-Talk run by a real pro might be their best bet with Adult Standards being second choice. I would go with the Business format first as with Brent running the operations the station would be a winner. 1320 never has caught on and a heavy promotion of a Business station on 790 would all but seal the fate of 1320 BizRadio.

Failing that idea would be a true Adult Standards stations, not a Soft AC with some Standards thrown in every so often. One of the most popular and fastest growing formats listened to on Internet Radio is Adult Standards by the 15 to 35 year old age group, mainly because many have never been exposed to the format on terrestrial radio. Adult Standards contrary to most persons thinking is not nursing home music for the dying. Done properly it could bring in some decent ratings. Arbitron had an article about this some time back, it may still be on their website www.arbitron.com .

A long shot would be a 50's-60's Rock station done in the same manner as the stations were in that era. Hard to tell if there would be enough listeners in even a metro as a large as Houston for that format to fly. It might work for a year or two as curiosity. Houston has a very low average age that makes any format for anyone over 50 a difficult sale.

KTRH could go all News 24/7 and move the Talk programming over to 790, but I have serious doubts that CC will spend that kind of money, even though they would recoup the costs in a year or two. A possibility if CC was to have an all News station would be going to FM and programming 93.7 KKRW as all News, the ratings would definitly beat KKRW's.

I expect that come late this year or 1st q of 2007 there will be a shuffling of formats on more stations than just KFNC. Many that are long overdue.

Another possibility would be Darrell Martin breaking away from his all Urban Gospel format on KYOK 1140, KWWJ 1360 and KANI 1500 and flipping to Urban Gold. KROI is going to take listeners from all three stations and programming old R&B , soul, Motown and blues could bring in a fair number of people. Praise 92 is a very good sounding station and is going to do well in the ratings. Radio One will staff it with the finest people there are and it will be a popular station across color and ethnic boundries. It will be very interesting what KROI's rating is six months, my guess is the high threes to low fours. With KCOH on the market, it is hard to tell what will happen to the format once it is sold.


RAFFT has offically sold KILE 1560 with CP's for 50kW day and 1kW night to GOW Communications, a Houston company. The FCC granted Approval on 8/22/2006 for the sale. We will have to see what GOW does with programming of 1560. Will they keep the brokered programming which already fills 6am to midnight or will they try a new format like all Texas Music or Americana?

Mike O
 
Hey Kliff:
Or Vince? I'm not indicting Vince Rowe as a person, I'm just stating my opinion on short selling and options trading. I was heavily involved in several years ago as a day trader and made 7 figures and ultimately lost 7 figures. The entire ride was a roller coaster. I used very credible programs as credible as what Rowe preaches, probably more so. Bottomline, this type of investment trading is akin to casino gambling. Every professional investor will tell you this. It doesn't mean you're a bad person for option trading, it's just not for the average investor, but is good for the average gambler or investor that is completely risk averse. About BizRadio, I'm probably one of their biggest fans and my posts will demonstrate that. In fact right now I think they are pushing most of the right buttons. I don't know where you get off that I am angry. I just have definitive opinions and I'm very confident in them. Just because you don't agree, you call me angry. Kliff, don't take opinions and ideas so personally because I don't voice personal opinions, just professional ones. I went off on BizRadio last year when they began changing up their programming and when one of my clients was insulted by their owner. I might have been harsh at times, but my opinions were based on fact and nothing personal. On Vince Rowe, I have no personal ax grind as you seem to imply, I'm just stating my opinion on the trading strategies he uses. Again, those opinions are based on my personal and factual experiences. Oh, thanks Airwave for supporting my opinion.

MikeO:
I really don't know what kind of deal Clanton has, but if I had to guess I would say 3 years, the same as Frishberg's lease. There's no question that if Clanton had complete control the station would probably show up in the ratings before too long. The problem BizRadio has, in my opinion, is the lack of promotion and advertising. If they ever beefed up the ADV and PR they would let more people know they exist. They have the programming to keep listeners who are interested in business. It's too bad they lost Dayna Steele and Jim Cramer, but I think that was out of their control. Programming in Toby Smith and Jack Berusian were great moves. Their move to 7P would be the biggest help, but I don't think Frishberg wants to spend them money on buying out the long term contract currently in that 6P time slot. If Clanton ended up at 790 or any other well funded AM station programming the business format I have not doubt he would make it work. It's certainly possible for that to happen because I don't see Frishberg ever giving up control of his station to anyone, plus I'm banking on Clanton not being too happy about having a CEO or COO or whatever Ron Barshop's title is as position above him when he is supposed to be the GM. Anything's possible, but I'm betting on BizRadio's success over the next year and a half.
 
ADGUY:

I am not Vince let's clarify that. If you are a fan of Bizradio,your remarks are not too convincing. The same challenge is given, why don't you contact Vince and see for yourself first hand whether you are right or wrong? If you decide against that, then its obvious you don't have a clue about him.
 
Brent Clanton is a class guy and a professional who has done good work in spite of the environment in which has been placed. I met him years ago when I was in college and Brent was working at KRAV in Tulsa. He is a great talent and will suceed wherever he winds up. I'd like to see him have more control of bizradio as I think they would have more success if he had more input into its direction.
 
Look Kliff:

This isn't a pissing match and I don't need to look at Vince's program for absolution. All I stated was my opinion on overly risky investment strategies, which I have a load of real world experience. Just because it's not for me anymore doesn't mean others are not free to try it. I'm sure Vince will sell his program very successfully and I don't condemn him for that. It's just not my cup of tea anymore. Been there, done that and I know the risks. My original post here praised BizRadio for dropping his show in AM Drive where it does not belong. But just to remind you how blind you are and to reiterate, I have praised BizRadio over the past couple of weeks for the great moves they made to return the station to delivering the kind of product I believe people in their Texas markets want to hear. I wish you and Vince well in your endeavors and I hope you and him sell thousands of trading programs. I won't be participating at any time. Good Luck! I'm done with the subject.
 
Adguy. Let me clarify I don't work for Vince. I don't attend his academy. I have seen it however, and talked to others who have been successful with it and a few who have not. To have a clear perspective of the subject.You should have checked it out,instead of the shots taken at it. You chose not to,so be it, But how can you condemn without looking into the subject and gain first hand knowledge? Intersting. Two weeks you praise Bizradio for their direction, that too is interesting. So when does your client(s) air their spots or debut their show?
 
Shame on you, adguy, now hush up and drink the Kool-Aid.
 
Aunti:

What is that supposed to mean? Sounds like a very poor attempt at humor.

Kliff:

Even though I said I'm finished with discussing this with you, I'll buy time on BizRadio when they deliver numbers in the demos I buy at the price (cost-per-point) I pay on other stations. Just because I don't buy it doesn't mean I don't support it. Mostly what I buy now is targeting women and that would place BizRadio out of the buying parameters on my current buys. My guess is when they hit numbers it will be older male demos. We're talking 40+ to 50+ and older. When I see numbers there and I have a client that wants that demo you best believe I will talk to them.
 
Adguy"

I believe you either have done so already or will in the next few days or weeks. I find it interesting.
 
adguy said:
Aunti:

What is that supposed to mean? Sounds like a very poor attempt at humor.
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Yep, ya nailed me. It WAS a poor attempt at humor. It started out being an entire paragraph defending your right to disagree with Kliff without being accused of making attacks, but then I realized you didn't need anyone coming to your rescue. Then, it was going to be a paragraph about the content in that I'd pretty much put my stock dollars wherever ya tell me because I do trust your judgment, but then I realized that I've never actually gotten stock market advice from you, so that was devnull. So, in the end, my first paragraph all came down to a one-liner, and evidently one that inadvertently offended you, at that. Sorry.

Now I will go lock myself in the bathroom and rock myself to sleep with a bag of Oreos, and a Dixie-cup full of Kool-Aid.
 
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