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Vinyl Records?

Sorry, noncomradio, My bad. I was being facetious. EVERY time I post anything, someone comes along to tag me as a dinosaur, so I was just beating them to the punch. I personally believe I am a better Pro Tools editor and mixer in 2012 because I remember digging tape out of the trash to "undo" an edit in 1977, or slipping the tape out of the capstan to slide it back to erase the noise leading up to a cut in 1989. And with the '46 Jeep, you rock!
 
Rob, you are golden.

I'll do a more "up to date stop living in the past" post. Look, radio's not going back to the days in which the jocks actually touched the CD's and manually placed them in CD players. It's always going to be digitized and loaded into the computer. Radio's not going back to the days in which liners and drops were manually played, either. Radio doesn't need inefficient humans anymore. For those of you who want to go back to the 1990's, stop living in the 20th century.
 
For that matter, does anyone remember having a 3-note chime with hammer mounted on the copy stand over the board for you to strike when you finished reading one piece of live copy and were flipping the pages of the notebook getting ready for the next? That actually predates me by about 10 years, but John Powell told me about it several times over the years and he's still here!
 
@ robgrayson: No harm, no foul, but I did see the comment at the end, and didn't see it as a sort of facetious thing the way it was written. Sometimes e-mail and forum posts are a bit hard to distill any tone from, at least for me anyway.

Oh, and Wool, I see your comment was clear, though. No, I don't consider myself dense in any sense of the word. ::)
 
anotherguy said:
Nashville has The Great Escape and McKay's (McKay's is also in Knoxville and Chattanooga), which is my favorite used music and video store now, and I wish there was something similar in Memphis and Jackson.
The Nashville McKay's is getting ready to move into a brand-new building that they are having built. Message me here, and I will let you know whenever they open there. As for the Great Escape, they closed their location near Vanderbilt last fall (rent was getting too high), but they are still in business in their other Nashville-area locations.
 
Tynosaur said:
Those folk who demand the "warm" sound of vinyl over the "harsh" sound of digital are the same ones who griped about dvds and cds and the number of bits and speakers with ceramic tweeters and gold cabling versus lamp wire and quadrophonic versus stereo and tube receivers versus transistor receivers and 78 rpm versus 33 1/3 and single play turntables versus changers and on and on back to caves versus tree branches for living quarters. Some of them were known as "lunch" and most of them have become deaf over time,.
A run-on sentence to end all run-on sentences! ;D I kinda get the feeling that those who like "warm" vinyl were somewhat cheesed off by the unwritten, unspoken "expectations" of the record companies that we would all rush out and trade in our vinyl for CDs, and in so doing, make the record companies a ton of $$$$. I can relate to that, somewhat. I have a couple of albums on both vinyl and CD, so I'm getting the best of both worlds. And I have a CD that an internet friend burned for me that has a song on it that was obviously taken from one of his 45s. I can hear the "pops" on it. So with that burned CD, I'm getting CD sound with the pops and clicks of a record. So I'm having my cake and eating it, too! 8) By the way, how did records ever come to be called "vinyl"? ???
 
firepoint525 said:
anotherguy said:
Nashville has The Great Escape and McKay's (McKay's is also in Knoxville and Chattanooga), which is my favorite used music and video store now, and I wish there was something similar in Memphis and Jackson.
The Nashville McKay's is getting ready to move into a brand-new building that they are having built. Message me here, and I will let you know whenever they open there. As for the Great Escape, they closed their location near Vanderbilt last fall (rent was getting too high), but they are still in business in their other Nashville-area locations.

Thanks for the info. I was in Nashville earlier this month when I took my daughter to a doctor's appoointment and saw where McKay's had a new building and I didn't know whether it was going to be a store or a warehouse. The Great Escape opened a new location a few blocks East of McKay's on Charlotte Pike about the same time they closed the Vandy location. That's the one I would go to until they moved.
 
anotherguy said:
Thanks for the info. I was in Nashville earlier this month when I took my daughter to a doctor's appoointment and saw where McKay's had a new building and I didn't know whether it was going to be a store or a warehouse. The Great Escape opened a new location a few blocks East of McKay's on Charlotte Pike about the same time they closed the Vandy location. That's the one I would go to until they moved.
I don't have to tell you that the new McKay's will be much easier to find, since you can see it from the interstate. Which is great coming in from west Tennessee, or just west of Nashville, where I now live. The Great Escape location on Charlotte originally served as something of a warehouse for their other locations, which was unfortunate for them, since they suffered heavy losses of irreplaceable inventory in the May 2010 flood. Unfortunately for me, I too, suffered from that flood, but was able to save all my records, since my girlfriend (now wife) saved them for me. She even gave priority to protecting the Beatles stuff first! How great is that?
 
Phonoluxe on Nolensville is another great Nashville store for records. I miss the old Great Escape on Broadway. The new store is cleaner, brighter and has the same merchandise but there was something about the old messy store that was charming. You never knew what you would find on the floor underneath the tables.

Memphis really needs a Mckay's as there is nothing even close to it, just some smaller stores like Audiomania, Goner, and Shangri-la plus the creepy River Records.

Even better than McKay's would be a Half Price Books and Records like they have in Texas. Someone told me they had a location in Louisville.
 
I thought about Phonoluxe after my last post. I like them too, but they're kind of out of the way for me. I try to get there occasionally though.

I didn't know that River Records was still in business in Memphis. I haven't been there in at least 10 years. I can remember hearing of Shangri-La, but didn't really know where it was.
 
Now (and here's where I'll get the "living in the past" drubbing) to my ears Rock 103 had an entirely different sound when they played vinyl albums and were processed with simple CBS compression pre-Optimod (volumax, audimax, I don't remember which, maybe both, one before the stl, and another at the transmitter). Compared to computers and CD's, with vinyl the audio "breathed."

In the early 80's, when they put the modern processing in, my immediate reaction was "where did all the high end go?" "Oh, that was just noise," I was told. To me, it was pleasant noise. One of the immediate changes I noticed was in doing segues. It was like changing from an automatic transmission to a stick shift.
 
Well stated; we noticed it on this side of the speakers too. Very astute way of putting it too, because that is exactly how it sounds.
 
nocomradio said:
@ robgrayson: No harm, no foul, but I did see the comment at the end, and didn't see it as a sort of facetious thing the way it was written. Sometimes e-mail and forum posts are a bit hard to distill any tone from, at least for me anyway.

Oh, and Wool, I see your comment was clear, though. No, I don't consider myself dense in any sense of the word. ::)

No problem, glad I could help.
 
briancraig said:
Phonoluxe on Nolensville is another great Nashville store for records. I miss the old Great Escape on Broadway.
anotherguy said:
I thought about Phonoluxe after my last post. I like them too, but they're kind of out of the way for me. I try to get there occasionally though.
A word of warning for any of you who might want to go to Phonoluxe, particularly for those of you who would be coming in from out of town. Schedule your trip there on a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, because they are now closed for the rest of the week. Been that way for about the last year or so.

It would be great if they could move to the old Broadway Great Escape location, but because of the high rents that drove Great Escape out, that seems unlikely.
 
There was a time there right after we switched to CDs that there was a real clash between the analog processors and the characteristics of the waveforms coming out of the CD machines. What had worked for vinyl and carts didn’t work for CDs, and if you tried to mix the two sources on the air you had a train wreck processing–wise.

Personally, I can tell the difference in audio quality between digital and analog sources and I prefer analog. It has nothing to do with the noise or lack thereof or the bandwidth. The quick rise times and digital artifacts are very noticeable to me.
 
I have spent a lot of time in Edward McKays through the years in Knoxville and Chattanooga. The Knoxville store is in the old Bill Rodgers Buick Dealership. The Chattanooga Store at present was built for McKay to their needs. And is close to the interstate at the Bonny Oaks Exit. Bought a lot of vinyl there and books and the occasional CD.
 
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