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Voice tracking: Stop lying!

S

SeattleObserver

Okay, so at 9 pm I heard a mysterious female DJ on KPLZ say "Seafair parade is just ending, but we'll be here with you with the tunes in the traffic." An hour later I come home, flip on the TV set and see that things are CLEARLY still moving along 4th Avenue and Pine at KIRO 7's filming location.

If you've voice tracked, please don't try to "guess" about stuff. Listeners *eventually* pick up on it.

Also, this is the first time in a while that I think 70s Saturday Night hasn't started (has been canceled?) on KPLZ at 9 pm. It's still "the best mix of everything."

I will say that I liked they used the imaging to introduce a new Uncle Cracker song and actually played it afterwards. If you're going to have an automated set, it's still nice to learn about less familiar music somehow.
 
as far as the voicetracking part, that jock may very well have been live and wasn't guessing. the parade did wrap up just after 9pm by fisher plaza outside kplz's studios and people were headed to their cars. i watched the end of it at 4th and denny. kiro's tv coverage was down toward 4th and pike and i'm sure the end of the parade didn't get there til close to 10pm.
 
The cowboys at STAR don't get much right but they at least got people on the air on the weekends. Went down with the family in the afternoon and they wanted to listen to STAR which chaps my hide a bit :mad: Lady on the air had weather, traffic reports the whole magilla and that night we packed up around Bell street arouind 9:15p and as we got into the car STAR was announcing the parade was ending right on cue 8) I generally hear Generic introductions to new songs but the female talent was obviously there and put a stupid stager into the new song, which to me is just clutter. Play the song, I can see what it is on my rDs :p At ten pm the disco Saturday night fever crap hit the air and the family bailed on the radio station and went over to the WOLF ;D STAR could use a good program director and an upgrade in some of their aging talent but at least Fisher has the guts to put live talent on the air during the week and weekends, same can't be said for the rest of the market :-\
 
Re: How 'bout posting an ORIGINAL thought?

TakeItFromMe said:
STAR could use a good program director and an upgrade in some of their aging talent....
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Sure has been a long time since that tired old argument made it on the board...and thanks to PPM it's not even LESS relevant.
 
Seattle Observer,

It was Anna Kelly and I'm sure she was looking out the window seeing that the parade was completed at Fisher Plaza. Same thing happens with the weather around here, sunny downtown and raining to beat the band north or south.
You guys are right about the tired and old talent on Star, and the PD, they all need to be replaced with some young talent so the joint can get some real ratings!!! lol
 
I've done (and still do) voice-tracking and syndicated radio and I've never lied for an affiliate or employer. I refuse to do a break like "I was downtown over the weekend and the Christmas lights are beautiful" or "Like you, I get tired of the construction on I-80" - it hasn't been a problem.

In general, if this was a bit of a white lie and/or error, it's no big deal to me and I'm guessing few, if any, listeners care. It's the content, not the location.
 
We've come a long way since a local TV station (I think it was channel 7) got into trouble when it was discovered that part of one of their evening newscasts had been pre-recorded an hour earlier but presented as live.
 
Voicetracking happens from time to time. It's just that when I hear it I recognize it, given where I have been and what is being promoted.
 
WKomm said:
I've done (and still do) voice-tracking and syndicated radio and I've never lied for an affiliate or employer. I refuse to do a break like "I was downtown over the weekend and the Christmas lights are beautiful" or "Like you, I get tired of the construction on I-80" - it hasn't been a problem.

In general, if this was a bit of a white lie and/or error, it's no big deal to me and I'm guessing few, if any, listeners care. It's the content, not the location.
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Yeah, right. What "sydnicated radio" have you ever voice tracked for, Board Op Boy?
 
I thought many years ago voicetracking would be the end of radio. Now I see WORSE things.....

Voicetracking in Puget Sound started in Bellingham (shoot me now) 50 years ago, but without it, stations like Old Gold 77 KXA and KJET wouldn't have survived (Especially KJET.) And today, with LPFMs NEEDING it, I don't contend too hashly with it now. Even I sound ten times more awesome VT'd.

You plan everything...sometimes, you can just ad lib something and it works. Plan it strategically and it's looser, less confining, less pressure. Just keep your breaks short and to the point and you're good to go in any situation.....

Except when the massive earthquake hits. Or the freak summer storm. Or the Alaskan Way viaduct suddenly comes crashing down.....

Because the VERY last thing I would want on my conscience is the Alaskan Way viaduct crashing down and the only thing on whatever station I'm on telling people to go out to Greenlake and rollerblade with this gorgeous Puget Sound sunset...with the latest from Dave Koz now on Smooth 98.9 KWJZ......

Like I've said a million times before. Voicetracking has it's place, but it's NOT a resting place. I can see it on major holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas. But itshay can happen at any time. Thats why there needs to be a backup of some kind.

Or everybody could just cut to the chase and instantly cut to KOMO simulcast......

It's up to the owners of these stations really. Of course in PPM, KOMO would then be in the TRIPLE digits. Not that THEY would complain (Dennis Kelly is already kickin' back, chillin' as it is.) But it's a sign that maybe even music radio stations these days could use DO need a competent LOCAL news team......
 
Dear Cororate Suit -

I'm guessing this will quickly end up in "take it outside" if I let loose with what I really want to say but I think your lame board ID says it all.

I've worked a ton of major markets. I have been and am syndicated. I am on a lot of stations. I am not a major player but doing just fine, thanks. And there's no way I will prove it and no way you'd believe it anyway, so - these last ten words are the end of this topic.
 
dialtwister said:
Voicetracking restricts the amount of new talent that's being brought up - simple as that
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Really! You speak with such authority. Have you ever voice tracked a show? Or are you a former board-op or producer that never made it behind a mic and thus blame voice tracking? You see, it's actually simpler than what you clain..they need a voice to do the track. Where do you think that voice comes from?
 
Well, I do a lot of VT work as well as syndication and I agree - VT'ing keeps new talent from rising. Or at least makes it much harder. The fringe shifts - all night, weekends - is where I would put local DJs who needed to grow. Now - those slots are pretty much gone. No owner will pay a full-trime salary when for a few extra bucks he/she can get someone to knock out an all night shift or a Sunday afternoon shift. Just a fact. I don't know if it's still the case but there was a time at CC (I was there) when it was not unusual for a full-time medium/major market jock to be doing 5, 6 or more VT shifts. Insane but saved big $$.

I like doing syndicated better. Every show, I give it 100%. If a local talent can beat me, wonderful. If a station passes on me to keep a local warm body, I understand. But when I VT'd multiple shifts at multiple stations, I knocked it out as fast as possible. I might take 10 minutes prep to get a local call or reference in but basically - I was fried. After about 7 or 8 straight hours of radio, the brain starts to melt. To me, a huge difference between syndicated and VT.

Just my opinion ...
 
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