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Vox in Cville
- Thread starter murphy123
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> Saw the item on VARTV. Anyone care to speculate on what they
> are trying to do? They seem to be flush with cash - paying
> too much for BOP in the first place. Now they wanna move to
> Cville...anything else they could buy to pair it with? The
> Louisa station? WBNN? Any guesses?
>
Well...I have a feeling this thing might not work out too well for Vox...
1) I'm not quite sure, but the allotment put down for Marlinton might not be possible; as there's a radio astronomy place very close to there...they picked a radio-sheltered spot for a reason...
2) The feds might not look too kindly at Churchville losing its only FM station...if they have another station licenced to there (even an AM), it might be OK...
3) This new 106.1 will cover C'ville quite well, with its tower just east of the city, so there would be no need for Vox to purchase another station to simulcast. The Louisa station would make little sense, as 106.1 would cover the Eastern area better...unless they had a burning desire to cover South Albermarle better, they would have no need to purchase WBNN
(On a side note, I think 105.3 and 105.5 should simulcast for a more inclusive C'ville coverage)
So, what would 106.1 go with? Urban? Active Rock? Jack/Sam/Pam/Bob/Gerald FM?
hmm...this could be interesting...
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> are trying to do? They seem to be flush with cash - paying
> too much for BOP in the first place. Now they wanna move to
> Cville...anything else they could buy to pair it with? The
> Louisa station? WBNN? Any guesses?
>
Well...I have a feeling this thing might not work out too well for Vox...
1) I'm not quite sure, but the allotment put down for Marlinton might not be possible; as there's a radio astronomy place very close to there...they picked a radio-sheltered spot for a reason...
2) The feds might not look too kindly at Churchville losing its only FM station...if they have another station licenced to there (even an AM), it might be OK...
3) This new 106.1 will cover C'ville quite well, with its tower just east of the city, so there would be no need for Vox to purchase another station to simulcast. The Louisa station would make little sense, as 106.1 would cover the Eastern area better...unless they had a burning desire to cover South Albermarle better, they would have no need to purchase WBNN
(On a side note, I think 105.3 and 105.5 should simulcast for a more inclusive C'ville coverage)
So, what would 106.1 go with? Urban? Active Rock? Jack/Sam/Pam/Bob/Gerald FM?
hmm...this could be interesting...
Radio-X<P ID="signature">______________
If a DJ talks into a microphone, and no one's there to listen to him, does he make a noise?</P>
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moedog1
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Yes, I would agree with radio X that Vox's app has a fatal flaw---Marlinton is in a "radio quiet area" that seems to preclude any powerful FM broadcasts. THe application that I read on the fcc site made no mention of this. I would think that Vox's engineering firm has some explaining to do to their client. Its a shame for the town of Marlinton, since they badly need a local radio station. On the other hand, WBOP has never been a "Churchville station," instead claiming Harrisonburg as home. THe other "Churchville station" WNLR-AM passes as a Staunton station. But the Churchville suburb (about 2 miles south)of Buffalo Gap also has a FM station, WZXI, 95.5.
> Yes, I would agree with radio X that Vox's app has a fatal
> flaw---Marlinton is in a "radio quiet area" that seems to
> preclude any powerful FM broadcasts. THe application that I
> read on the fcc site made no mention of this. I would think
> that Vox's engineering firm has some explaining to do to
> their client. Its a shame for the town of Marlinton, since
> they badly need a local radio station. On the other hand,
> WBOP has never been a "Churchville station," instead
> claiming Harrisonburg as home. THe other "Churchville
> station" WNLR-AM passes as a Staunton station. But the
> Churchville suburb (about 2 miles south)of Buffalo Gap also
> has a FM station, WZXI, 95.5.
>
The quiet area's rules have changed over the years. I am not sure that they preclude this from happening. It started in the 80's when the 50kw sticks started showing up in the counties just to the east in Virginia (WKCY-FM and WQPO). WQPO originally had a directional antenna when it went 50kw in 1983 - which was later dropped in favor or a non-D antenna. I believe because the quiet area was no longer designated as such or at least the rules had been altered. Highland Co got a station in the last couple of years too. Maybe someone else can chime in - but I think the quiet area is "Not" as quiet as it once was...
The second poster was correct and its outlined in their filing that Churchville has another aural service. So, there is no problem there.
Also, I wasn't suggesting VOX buy another Cville area station to simulcast...I was suggesting they would probably want to make a "cluster" in Cville - and then the question is "what is for sale?" It looks like the only two other stand alones in the area are the Louisa station (which is running the same sat format as VOX is on 95.5 in Buffalo Gap which in itself is weird since you can hear both stations through most of Aug CO) and the somewhat distant WBNN.
It usually takes better than 12 months for a COL request to fly - so you've got a while to watch this one.
> flaw---Marlinton is in a "radio quiet area" that seems to
> preclude any powerful FM broadcasts. THe application that I
> read on the fcc site made no mention of this. I would think
> that Vox's engineering firm has some explaining to do to
> their client. Its a shame for the town of Marlinton, since
> they badly need a local radio station. On the other hand,
> WBOP has never been a "Churchville station," instead
> claiming Harrisonburg as home. THe other "Churchville
> station" WNLR-AM passes as a Staunton station. But the
> Churchville suburb (about 2 miles south)of Buffalo Gap also
> has a FM station, WZXI, 95.5.
>
The quiet area's rules have changed over the years. I am not sure that they preclude this from happening. It started in the 80's when the 50kw sticks started showing up in the counties just to the east in Virginia (WKCY-FM and WQPO). WQPO originally had a directional antenna when it went 50kw in 1983 - which was later dropped in favor or a non-D antenna. I believe because the quiet area was no longer designated as such or at least the rules had been altered. Highland Co got a station in the last couple of years too. Maybe someone else can chime in - but I think the quiet area is "Not" as quiet as it once was...
The second poster was correct and its outlined in their filing that Churchville has another aural service. So, there is no problem there.
Also, I wasn't suggesting VOX buy another Cville area station to simulcast...I was suggesting they would probably want to make a "cluster" in Cville - and then the question is "what is for sale?" It looks like the only two other stand alones in the area are the Louisa station (which is running the same sat format as VOX is on 95.5 in Buffalo Gap which in itself is weird since you can hear both stations through most of Aug CO) and the somewhat distant WBNN.
It usually takes better than 12 months for a COL request to fly - so you've got a while to watch this one.
M
moedog1
Guest
I believe the NRAO will scream bloody murder over this proposal. I lived in Highland Co. for five years and was a volunteer for Allegheny Mountain Radio which operates WVLS-FM in Monterey (Highland Co., VA), WVMR-AM in the big city of Frost WV (Pocahutas Co. WV), and WCHG-FM in Hot Springs VA (Bath Co.). WVLS-FM is within the radio quiet area, but was permitted by the FCC because it is sharply directional away from Green Bank WV, home of NRAO. WVLS operates with only 230 watts, though it is on a 4000 ft. mountain. But there is an even higher mountain range of 5000 ft between Monterey and Green Bank. ANd apparently, the NRAO decided a limited amount of AM interferenece was allowable, which allowed the FCC to permit WVMR to operate 1370AM with 5000 watts only 10 miles from Green Bank. But I can't see how a full power FM could be engineered to operate from the Marlinton area and protect the Greenbank area. THey are so stringent that they would not allow a microwave link between WVMR and WVLS/WCHG, and they have been known to pluck leaky microwave ovens from area homes (they provide new ovens). BTW, the NRAO is a must see for radio geeks. THey have a great visitors center and guided tours. You haven't seen a real dish reciever until you've seen one of their 400 ft. jobs.
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