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W202CC 88.3 [Air1 Translator] APP request.

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xmusicmatt

Was poking around and found this via recnet.net:

3. BPFT-20120223AEG Accepted for Filing 02/24/2012|
http://cdbs.recnet.net:8080/goo_curves.php?data=39.937|83.021|0.01|241|60|108496|257|0|3
Application ID: 1488607
Geographic Coordinates: 39-56'14 N / 83-1'16 W
Channel: 257D
Domestic Status: Application
Elevation: 218 m AMSL
Non-Directional Antenna
Antenna System ID: 108496
Antenna Rotation: 0
Horiz Vert
Effective Radiated Power 0.01 kW 0.01 kW
Maximum Effective Radiated Power 0 kW 0 kW
Radiation center above average terrain 0m 0m
Radiation center-height above ground 259m 259m
Radiation center-above mean sea level 477m 477m
Maximum HAAT: 269 m
Overall antenna height above ground: 315m
Primary Station: WOHC CHILLICOTHE OH
Received directly off air on Channel 211 at bearing 192.
REC Translator Subclass: D4
Under current rules, this translator may be considered as having a service contour of 7.3km to 13.3km in respect of protection by LPFM stations.
Border Zone: Located 196 km from Canada
REC measured distance to Canada: 197.0 km - bearing 7.8"


Channel 257 is 99.3 Mhz.. Still same power and tower height but being at 99.3 would help them with the interference they have with 88.3 WOAR South Vienna and also being 1st adj to WWGV 88.1 Grove City (which is the org. home of this translator before AFR's app caused it to get bumped)


I am wondering though if EMF will "lend" this translator to Clear Channel and we see an HD-2 end up here (since 99.3 Mhz would put it in the commercial band)

[side note, W202CC never appeared on Air1's website after they took over the station from Cedarville]
 
Clear Channel is prohibited from broadcasting in the "reserved" portion of the spectrum, from 88 through 91 FM (ie, reserved for "noncommercial" licensees only). I guess that's the only thing they're prohibited from "owning" in this brave, new media landscape of nearly unlimited ownership of the spectrum in every market by a handful of corporate players.
 
Goldilocks94941 said:
Clear Channel is prohibited from broadcasting in the "reserved" portion of the spectrum, from 88 through 91 FM (ie, reserved for "noncommercial" licensees only). I guess that's the only thing they're prohibited from "owning" in this brave, new media landscape of nearly unlimited ownership of the spectrum in every market by a handful of corporate players.
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Right, but this is an APP to move this translator to 99.3 FM which means CC could broadcast on it (EMF and CC have partnerships in other cities) right now the APP shows a rebroadcast of WOHC 90.1 if it moves to 99.3 (currently 88.3 since its in the non-com band is being fed via Satellite from KHRI)
 
EMF's request to move W202CC to 99.3 has been approved.

2. BPFT-20120223AEG GRANTED 04/20/2012|
Construction Permit Expires: 04/20/2015
Application ID: 1488607
Geographic Coordinates: 39-56'14 N / 83-1'16 W
Channel: 257D
Domestic Status: Construction Permit
Elevation: 218 m AMSL
Non-Directional Antenna
Antenna System ID: 108496
Antenna Rotation: 0
Horiz Vert
Effective Radiated Power 0.01 kW 0.01 kW
Maximum Effective Radiated Power 0 kW 0 kW
Radiation center above average terrain 0m 0m
Radiation center-height above ground 259m 259m
Radiation center-above mean sea level 477m 477m
Maximum HAAT: 269 m
Overall antenna height above ground: 315m
Primary Station: WOHC CHILLICOTHE OH
 
gabigley1 said:
I'm a little surprised 99.7 in Columbus did not challenge this application. They did challenge WNIF-LP application to move to 99.3 FM in Delaware, Ohio. This has upheld WNIF-LP application to move to 99.3
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They may have not known of it =) Good news is at least this move when completed will make EMF's translator actually listenable in the Columbus area.. With the bleed over from 88.3 WOAR and the very directional 10watt signal 88.3 W202CC is pretty much not listenable unless your near the Channel 6 tower.

Only thing now is -- Will it stay Air1 or will EMF 'lease it out' to another station (since 99.3 is in the commercial band ..) this could be a good place to park an HD-2 or an AM station in this market (if EMF decides not to keep with Air1)
 
Is there a chance EMF would sell this translator? If so, who would be interested in buying?
CC Columbus may be interested in 99.3 for WTVN 610?
 
gabigley1 said:
Is there a chance EMF would sell this translator? If so, who would be interested in buying?
CC Columbus may be interested in 99.3 for WTVN 610?
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CC and EMF have been trading translators for months...it's the only way they both get to keep a lot of them...when cc and EMF run out of trades, look for cumulus, and emf, or cumulus and cc...(you get the drift)...

all of this to clear out and acquire as many as possible before any chance of losing one to lpfm come up
 
gabigley1 said:
Speaking of CC and EMF, back in my home state of Texas, CC launches a new format on a translator they are leasing from EMF in Austin.

http://www.radio-info.com/news/usin...lear-channel-luanches-rhythmic-ac-jammin-1031

Another possibility, if CC is dose in fact rent this translator, is to go Rhythmic. Some have said Columbus needs an Rhythmic station.
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CC has done a fair amount of rhythmic on translators... more so, spoilers, to keep ratings down on the other likely operators, without having to commit a full power frequency to the cause...it used to be the worst signal in town got the urban/rhythmic station, not they are doing it with translators & HD2 (something to calm the masses????)

What could be really interesting here, if if they put a majic type station on a translator, that would throw R1 a loop, especially if they treated it as a spoiler, and didn't even bother to sell it.
 
my question is that at 10 watts will they try and upgrade to the max 250 watts and would CC even be willing to put an urban/rhythmic there? I think it would be great to have another choice here (if listenable) and it would prob cut into R1 a little bit but wouldn't it have an effect on WNCI as well?
I know their Lexington, KY translator but put there solely to bother there local urban WBTF 107.9 the Beat, for some reason I don't see CC doing that here but I could be wrong :)
 
xmusicmatt said:
brian.marchand said:
A license to cover was just filed today so it will likely be on soon from 99.3.
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Wow they didn't waste no time =)
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they can't afford to...this is from Radio-info's front page, so they should not mind the repost..but the bottom line is those who have translators will find something to do with them, or stand a decent chance of losing them, especially in the more contested markets like Columbus. It's better for them to trade them, or sell them if the can.

The question, most likely down the road, is if the translators are indeed a service, or just a placeholder. I suspect most of us know the answers, but..

FCC to lay out details about translator and LPFM allocations, at May 16 forum
A nine-year-old logjam is about to be broken, sometime this year. Next Wednesday, four officials from the Media Bureau's Audio Division, including Chief Peter Doyle, will explain "how pending FM translator applicants from the 2003 Auction 83 window and pending and prospective FM translator modification applicants will be processed." The Commission is implementing the Local Community Radio Act and is beginning to lay out the rules that will eventually permit the licensing of low power FMs in some very large markets. At the same time, it's trying to balance the interests of translator applicants. The 2pm Eastern time May 26 hearing will be webcast by the FCC here. There will be a chance to ask questions via the Internet, during the 90-minute session.
 
gabigley1 said:
EMF said the plan is to program the translator on 99.3 with Air1 via WOHC.
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That's what their 'currently' doing with it ... though someone should tell them to update the flash drive at WOHC ... it still lists "88.3 in Columbus" :) However, now that this translator is in the commercial band... they could in theory lend it out to another broadcaster and put an HD2 or HD3 or even an AM station on it!
 
They are still announcing 88.3 in Columbus... So this is what they have to say about that:

"Ah! Thanks for the heads-up on the error! Our Signal Development Team will get this corrected."

Blessings,
Sarah Outman
Correspondence Assistant
 
gabigley1 said:
They are still announcing 88.3 in Columbus... So this is what they have to say about that:

"Ah! Thanks for the heads-up on the error! Our Signal Development Team will get this corrected."

Blessings,
Sarah Outman
Correspondence Assistant
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Yeah they "forgot" to update the ID insert on WOHC... My guess it happened is because prior to the move to 99.3. W202CC was getting it's Air1 feed directly via satellite from an iPump receiver (so they ID'ed as KHRI Hollister) however now they are in the 'commercial' band.. They must "relay" an over the air signal so they are now picking up 90.1 WOHC via an FM Tuner (which ID'ed as WOHC / 88.3 in Columbus).

I just only wish they would "crank up" the processing a little. The Translator had a lot better modulated audio when it was WCDR-FM... The modulation level is still way weaker than when it was CDR (even after the move to 99.3) If I flip between the Air1 webstream via my AUX input and 99.3 at the same volume level boy what a difference.
 
Agreed, they are currently way under-modulation. Maybe they need to send one of their RF engineers to fix the 99.3 modulation level. The modulation was sounding great before EMF took
over that translator on 88.3, now 97.3.
 
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