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W27BL & WMUR-LP 29 AFFILIATE QUESTION

Two Of WMUR's Translators W27BL & WMUR-LP 29 Have Been Simulcasting WMUR's ABC Programming For About 10 Years Now Since February 5, 2002, But Before That Date They Were Broadcasting Programs From The Fox Network Which They Had Done Since August 22, 1994 To December 19, 2001, Now If WMUR Were To Still Broadcast Fox Programming On It's Two Translators Today What Would Have Been They're Schedules For Those Two Low Powered Stations Since Fox Kids Programs And CNN Headline News Simulcasts Are No Longer Around What Would They Have To Air For Those Hours, Well Since WMUR Now Has A Second Digital Station Affiliated With MeTV, They Could Air Programs From That Network During The Daytime And Have Fox Programs At Nighttime Plus Simulcast WMUR's Newscasts And Some Of Their Daytimme Programming As Well, What Are Your Thoughts About It. 
 
The reason the translators used to carry FOX programming was that when WMTW was broadcasting from Mount Washington, they were the ABC station in Northern NH, and thus WMUR could not compete in another ABC station’s territory. When WMTW moved off the mountain that was no longer the case, and so the translators could then carry ABC programming.
 
kc1ih said:
The reason the translators used to carry FOX programming was that when WMTW was broadcasting from Mount Washington, they were the ABC station in Northern NH, and thus WMUR could not compete in another ABC station’s territory. When WMTW moved off the mountain that was no longer the case, and so the translators could then carry ABC programming.
Why did WMTW move off the mountain? It would seem all of Northern NH and VT as well as Western ME would be able to see channel 8, but now, unless you have cable, you're probably out of luck. I know most people have either cable or satellite, but I'm sure some in the real rural areas might not.
 
smaug07 said:
kc1ih said:
The reason the translators used to carry FOX programming was that when WMTW was broadcasting from Mount Washington, they were the ABC station in Northern NH, and thus WMUR could not compete in another ABC station’s territory. When WMTW moved off the mountain that was no longer the case, and so the translators could then carry ABC programming.
Why did WMTW move off the mountain? It would seem all of Northern NH and VT as well as Western ME would be able to see channel 8, but now, unless you have cable, you're probably out of luck. I know most people have either cable or satellite, but I'm sure some in the real rural areas might not.

That was a killer signal from "The Mountain" indeed. We used to get Channel 8 on a regular basis even south of Boston. While analog would do amazing things from the Mountain, a digital signal from Mt. Washington would simply not cover the entire market, especially in the Portland area. If you were lucky, you could cover the Mt. Washington Valley (Conway, Berlin and so on). Beyond that, probably not. So, they moved to the WCSH tower in Sebago, ME. For those beyond Mt. Washington westward, you were out of luck. DTV simply doesn't have the staying power of analog. But, such is life. I do miss getting WMTW down south of Boston. It was so cool to still get the Patriots on Monday Night Football back in the 70's, even if it was locally blacked out on WCVB, WTEV or WMUR . With a good antenna, which we had in Randolph, MA, we could still get it on WMTW, even in color!
 
smaug07 said:
Why did WMTW move off the mountain?

According to the Wikipedia page.. it's because there wasn't enough electrical power on the mountain to operate both the analog transmitter, and a digital transmitter large enough to provide a useful signal in Portland.

I don't see a source for that statement though. It strikes me as plausible but not certain; seems to me they could have operated a low-powered interim transmitter from the mountain (or even from somewhere else, like their studios) during the transition, and then flash-cut the Mt. Washington site to digital on transition day at full power.

I think it's more likely they didn't feel the OTA audience in northern NH & VT was large enough to justify the high cost of maintaining the Mt. Washington site, and as Peter says, by moving they could deliver a more reliable signal to indoor-antenna viewers in the more populated areas of the market. If there was no cable or satellite, they probably would have stayed on the mountain.
 
I do stand corrected of the current WMTW transmitter location. It is near the WCSH tower in Sebago, ME, but it is actually located on their own tower in Baldwin, ME. WMTW left the mountain in 2002.
 
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
We used to get Channel 8 on a regular basis even south of Boston.

Wow! -- I really miss WMTW -- Where I live about 10 miles SE of Mt Uncanoonuc (literally "under" WMUR's transmitter) I would get a watchable Channel 8 on rabbit ears in spite of the strong adjacent Channel 9.

On a related note, I wish there was another network affiliate in NH to pick from besides WMUR -- "Fox 21", perhaps?
 
w9wi said:
smaug07 said:
Why did WMTW move off the mountain?

According to the Wikipedia page.. it's because there wasn't enough electrical power on the mountain to operate both the analog transmitter, and a digital transmitter large enough to provide a useful signal in Portland.

I don't see a source for that statement though. It strikes me as plausible but not certain; seems to me they could have operated a low-powered interim transmitter from the mountain (or even from somewhere else, like their studios) during the transition, and then flash-cut the Mt. Washington site to digital on transition day at full power.

I think it's more likely they didn't feel the OTA audience in northern NH & VT was large enough to justify the high cost of maintaining the Mt. Washington site, and as Peter says, by moving they could deliver a more reliable signal to indoor-antenna viewers in the more populated areas of the market. If there was no cable or satellite, they probably would have stayed on the mountain.

Commercial power is now available on top of Mount Washington, having been added within the past few years after WMTW moved off the mountain. When I took the Cog Railroad up it a few years ago, they were installing underground powerlines right alongside the Cog Railroad.
 
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