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Wabc..1.3

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benale

The June PPM's are out and the once mighty WABC has achieved their lowest share ever a 1.3. Could we see the station go below a 1 share in the future? Of course,this is the 6 plus meaningless share, but I can't imagine any daypart doing reasonably well..and I would imagine the weekend ratings with their specialty shows and infomercials probably don't even register.

Can Cumulus do anything to stop the slide? Is Curtis and Kuby doing anything against Rush on WOR? Talk radio in general is not doing well. WLS and KABC are not doing much better.
 
benale said:
Can Cumulus do anything to stop the slide?
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What would you like them to do? Hire some listeners? Teach Imus how to be a personality? Send him back to Cleveland? If morning drive is in trouble, it's hard for any other daypart to do well. Put the Dickey brothers on the air?

My view is their only choice is blow the whole thing up and go in a different direction. Completely different direction. Can they do worse than a 1.3? Sure. So what?
 
Other than sports talk, is there a viable format left for AM that attracts listeners advertisers want? Or will WABC's future ultimately be brokered-time religion or ethnic, for which listenership barely matters? I can't see taking the talk liberal doing much, despite New Yorkers' generally liberal lean, mainly because talk listeners of any political stripe tend to be too old to be sold to.
 
June 2014 Survey period covering Thu. 5/22/14-Wed. 6/18/14 - age 6+ overall:

http://ratings.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/arb001

Next report will be the July 2014 survey period covering Thu. 6/19/14-Wed. 7/16/14.
Data release date will be Mon. 8/4/14.

AllAccess.com June PPM Analysis including top 10 overall, top 5 in 25-54, top 5 in 18-34 and top 5 in 18-49 (New York is listed first):

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...rch-director-inc-presents-exclusive-june-ppm-
 
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TheBigA said:
What would you like them to do? Hire some listeners? Teach Imus how to be a personality? Send him back to Cleveland? If morning drive is in trouble, it's hard for any other daypart to do well. Put the Dickey brothers on the air?

My view is their only choice is blow the whole thing up and go in a different direction. Completely different direction. Can they do worse than a 1.3? Sure. So what?
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http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...rd-Stern-the-only-one-who-could-help-AM-demos
 
What's the upside to Howard? He has all the money he'll ever need. He can say what he wants on Sirius. He gets national visibility on NBC.

Give him ONE good reason why he should do mornings on WABC.
 
WOR is doing even better against WABC in Long Island (2.2 vs. 1.2) and Middlesex-Somerset NJ (1.9 vs. 0.9)
 
The only thing Cumulus could do IMO to save ABC is to extend the Geraldo Rivera show by adding another five hours, it should be Geraldo from 10 till 5, then the exciting Pat Kiernan with his 200,000 co-hosts from 5 till 12. Infomercials all night.
 
TheBigA said:
What's the upside to Howard? He has all the money he'll ever need. He can say what he wants on Sirius. He gets national visibility on NBC.

Give him ONE good reason why he should do mornings on WABC.
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I agree but maybe like for many that have money it is not about the money.

If it is WABC, with a simulcast on FM and nationally syndicated maybe he would be interested. He fulfills his childhood dream of being on WABC, can try to reclaim the ratings throne nationally and would be back in the spotlight.
 
Yes cumulus and all other stations need to go back to the farm system we had years ago, right now there are NO millenials who are smart savvy and can host a radio show.....Who is going to take over these jobs? Kids today are clueless, and have no clue how to use google search...no kidding....its all about texting and apps.

Talking, right, who teaches them? There are so few stations that are live overnight to train at. Plus kids today dont drive so asking a 22 year to move for a job is never going to happen....unless the company pays for it.

So whats left? basically community radio pay $25-50-100 an hour and do your own show. but at least it would yield some talent.
 
Richard Stefan said:
Talking, right, who teaches them?
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Who taught Dan Ingram? He went to college, did a year or two in St. Louis, and went to WABC. Some farm system.

Talent is talent. You have it or you don't. You don't teach someone to be Dan Ingram.

There are hundreds and hundreds of local talk show hosts in lots of places, doing local talk every day. They're trained, ready, and set to be plugged in to WABC. But most don't want to leave where they are. They get married, start a family, and stay where they are the rest of their lives. Look at Tom Bauerle in Rochester. He could walk out of WHAM and into a national show if he wanted to. But he'd have to leave his safe place.
 
TheBigA said:
So you're suggesting they blow up both WABC and WPLJ for Howard Stern? Really?
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I never suggested that or believe it would happen. Since the WABC idea was floated in this thread, here is how I see it working.

Their ratings are down on both stations and they both could use a morning personality to rebuild the stations. It could be something like Howard Stern in the morning then some light rock type alternative format like WRFF that would not drive away women. Howard Stern is not the same Howard Stern that was on K-Rock. The new Howard is like the popular national radio personalities he used to mock in the past, meaning he has gone mainstream.

WABC would continue with a talk format for the rest of the day.

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He's under contract at Sirius. They're not going to allow him to give it away for free.
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If both stations are still a mess when his contract ends in 2015, I doubt it but who knows.

Personally I could care less what Howard does since I stopped listening long ago when he turned into a mouth piece for the Progressives.
 
Richard Stefan said:
Yes cumulus and all other stations need to go back to the farm system we had years ago, right now there are NO millenials who are smart savvy and can host a radio show.....Who is going to take over these jobs? Kids today are clueless, and have no clue how to use google search...no kidding....its all about texting and apps.
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That's not the real problem. The real problem is there are no millennials who listen to radio shows. If one of them has something to say, he'll start a podcast. Radio? That's for the grandparents.
 
Fred they dont exist.......where i cant find any intelligent millenials doing a talk show? I would love to find these things called podcasts to fill up some time on our internet radio station. Ive advertised on CL hundreds of responses 90%+ totally clueless. no skills, no idea how to use google search and expressing a thought ?

I booked her on a radio show the day before she was 20 now she is 23.....http://chelseakrost.com/
 
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