check my i take pictures of transmitter site group on facebook.. WVNN dismantled its night site, which i recall was seperate form days. .about.. 2-3 months ago? i think
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WABC 770 going off the air for maintenance tomorrow night
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check my i take pictures of transmitter site group on facebook.. WVNN dismantled its night site, which i recall was seperate form days. .about.. 2-3 months ago? i think
Listened to WABC driving from work in London, Ohio back into Columbus and while the signal was pretty listenable right before 10, a few minutes after it was so weak that I figured they'd gone off the air. Surprised they see they didn't go off until 11.
Definitely heard Spanish plus another station.
Definitely heard Spanish plus another station.
12:20 here (Eeastern). It sounds as though WABC is turning various switches up and down, and flipping the carrier on and off.
Did hear loud Spanish language on *8*70 for a while.
Too much noise below 900. I'm using the small Radio Shack 'Tune It' portable with the inconvenient wrist strap.
Did hear loud Spanish language on *8*70 for a while.
Too much noise below 900. I'm using the small Radio Shack 'Tune It' portable with the inconvenient wrist strap.
In the 60s KOB may have been running non-directional or ? while they fought in the courts to have clear channel authority.
Or when WABC was off for maintenance they'd run non-directional.
Or when WABC was off for maintenance they'd run non-directional.
Were (are) stations allowed to do that or did the FCC just wink at the offense since the station that would be harmed was off the air at the time KKOB switched its pattern as a favor to DXers?
The FCC in the 60's did always have a soft spot for KOB, and even wanted to force WABC to go to an I-B directional pattern. At the time, maybe KOB switched the pattern, the history isn't real clear on this. In the modern day, the FCC has let stations do DX tests, such as KJJR and WBOB, if it is organized by the association of radio amateurs.
I should add that the blackout took place at 5:17pm and lasted 17 hours. I think the opposite of the WCKY affect could've happened. WCKY does not have to protect KFBK until nearly 3 hours after local night-fall, allowing even a Wyoming-ite like myself to hear them clearly. On the morning after the initial blackout, KKOB could have taken advantage of a window where it could be on day-power while it was still night-out.
On CTListener's 'FCC wink' inquiry -- two things:
Anyone here know if reception reports to stations were considered for any public file obligations? Heck -- I worked for maybe 10 stations over 26 years and never saw 'The Public File' at any of them.
The FCC I remember as being a lot more strict and fearsome back in the days when we were all kids at the dials, before the broadcast-for-a-living bug bit us. One field agent in the northeast here was a +urd called Popkin, a guy who looked like Simon Oakland in a blue suit and whose sole FCC job appeared to be fining the snot out of any station he 'visited'. I'm wondering if he worked on commission. He'd pick on 3rd phones like me and supposedly issued fines for heinous violations like bad handwriting on the xmtr logs.
So I also ask if, for example, KOB/KKOB were to go omni during a WABC silent period ..... and KOB received two reception reports from West Virgina ..... or even worse, if the FCC got two complaints from Pittsburgh wondering why they couldn't hear Charlie Greer on WABC in PGH but instead a station from New Mexico ....
.... the FCC would treat the reception reports to KOB or the Pittsburgh complaints as 'shrugs' back then.
Anyone here know if reception reports to stations were considered for any public file obligations? Heck -- I worked for maybe 10 stations over 26 years and never saw 'The Public File' at any of them.
The FCC I remember as being a lot more strict and fearsome back in the days when we were all kids at the dials, before the broadcast-for-a-living bug bit us. One field agent in the northeast here was a +urd called Popkin, a guy who looked like Simon Oakland in a blue suit and whose sole FCC job appeared to be fining the snot out of any station he 'visited'. I'm wondering if he worked on commission. He'd pick on 3rd phones like me and supposedly issued fines for heinous violations like bad handwriting on the xmtr logs.
So I also ask if, for example, KOB/KKOB were to go omni during a WABC silent period ..... and KOB received two reception reports from West Virgina ..... or even worse, if the FCC got two complaints from Pittsburgh wondering why they couldn't hear Charlie Greer on WABC in PGH but instead a station from New Mexico ....
.... the FCC would treat the reception reports to KOB or the Pittsburgh complaints as 'shrugs' back then.
If you missed out on WABC's silent period last night, don't worry!
WABC's going off again!
They are signing off the air for another night of maintenance at 11:00 PM / 2300 EST (that's 10:00 PM / 2200 CST).
Good luck!
WABC's going off again!
They are signing off the air for another night of maintenance at 11:00 PM / 2300 EST (that's 10:00 PM / 2200 CST).
Good luck!
A number of stations were authorized to use day facilities when the dominant station was regularly scheduled to be off. KPOP / KGBS in LA ran full power on Sunday night when KDKA would always sign off at midnight, EST.
In the other direction, WCKY 1530 and WQXR-1560 could run day power until local sunset in Bakersfield and Sacramento, respectively. WJJD in Chicago stayed on until local sunset in SLC.
The FCC does not "let" stations do DX tests. Stations are authorized to test in the overnight hours routinely. To do such a test and to notify radio clubs about it is perfectly legal.
Such tests don't have to be done in association with a BCB DX club (not "amateurs" which is totally different).
The FCC "put up" with KOB only because the state had no other decent facility. But the Commission bounced it around from another frequency and constantly turned down its applications.
With rare exceptions, the clubs do not run DX tests themselves. Club members volunteer for the CPC (Courtesy Program Committee) and request stations do a test for the club or clubs. They then coordinate with the station and sometimes offer to answer the verification requests (at least in the day when that was done by mail).
When I first joined the NRC back in 1959, there might be as many as 20 such DX tests on a Monday morning. It was not uncommon to have a 500 watt regional channel station in CA be heard on the East Coast and New England.
When we (a group of NRCers who wanted a democratic club) formed the IRCA a few years later, it also had a CPC and shared notifications with the NRC.
That would be neat to experience. Too bad they only do like two or three of them a year now!
Is this a carry over from the early days where WLW could test as W8XO?
I always suspected that KOB ran ND when WABC was off. I tried several times to pick up KGBS when KDKA was off but I never heard it in the Chicago area.
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