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WABC dropping "Coast to Coast AM" for infomercials

I wonder if others see the humor in this thread as the charges and counter-chargers cross the bow.

Phil Boyce said:
So now we will take this man who started this lie about WABC and turn him into some kind of cult hero for you 5 or 6 sycophants here, all because his lie actually played into your own agenda and you wanted to believe it. In fact you wanted to believe it so badly that you now refuse to admit it was a lie.

It so much resembles what Rush, Hannity and so many of the neo-con and yes, progressive talk squads do every day, with the right wing well-represented on WABC and countless other radio stations. Ah, but it's the "liberal media" that contorts the truth.

Phil, with all due respect to you, the PD of America's #1 Talk Radio Station in Market #1, and as I don't know you, never met you and as I "hide behind a board-moniker"... How does it feel to wrestle with half-truths, fabrications, inuendo, misrepresentations and outright lies? Seems, according to your well-written and documented responses, to drive you at least halfway round the bend.

Imagine that... Rook employing the same formula used by two major talk show hosts who run their shtik on listeners for at least six hours every day on WABC. I cannot be the only one who finds some humor in this.

Your words regarding John Rook's charges ring so true, especially as one might apply them to the daily charades of Rush and Hannity. "...all because his lie actually played into your own agenda and you wanted to believe it. In fact you wanted to believe it so badly that you now refuse to admit it was a lie." Hey, it works for Rush and Hannity.

Could not have been better said, Phil. See you when I get on the train in Metuchen.

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This is all so surreal at this point.

All things considered, I wonder how Phil Boyce, if that's really who has posted here ... as PD of WABC and VP of Programming for Citadel ... a company very much in flux and turmoil ... would have the time and inclination to bow to a thread on a public forum filled with but he says is a mere handful of radio savvy people...or its "fans."

Why waste the time? In the scheme of things ... it won't make Rush (syndicated,) Hannity (syndicated,) Levin syndicated,) Sliwa, Imus (syndicated,) Gambling, Norry (syndicated,) Simone, Donovan, Colon Cleanse or anyone at WABC do anything differently. It just embarrasses Mr. Boyce and the company he is employed even more.i

Imagine Dan Mason at CBS doing the same ... and he's certainly had enough flaming reason to respond over the past year ... but, wisely, chose not to. No wonder corporations demand that employees not do this ... for ego or for any other reason. It leads to nothing except the futility we've seen here. No one wins. No one learns.

We, of course, lust for this kind of stuff and the reaction there-in. The fact that Dr. Sniffles across the way deleted from his adoring flock any mention of this heresy on "his" board about "his" radio station shows the hypocrisy of it all. We read into it what we want and take from it what we want ... that which is necessarily true or not, fact or fantasy, fiction or reality ... we believe what we want ... to everyone's embarrassment. And, yet, that's ok. It's "discourse" of public opinion ... the American way.

Phil Boyce couldn't win this battle and John Rook, through clever wording ... as well as a board poster and a tabloid non-factual headline inflamed a needless, long-standing tradition of 6 to 8 years or more because of miscalculation, misreading or misunderstanding. We believed only what we wanted to believe and read only what we wanted to read both in and out of context.

John Rook didn't bother anyone here. His right. His blog. Phil Boyce injected himself over a miscalculated headline by a zealous board member here to make headlines ... and did. And Phil fell right through the trap door.

As football coach Buddy Ryan of the Eagles once said, "If you listen to the fans ... you'll soon become one of them." Phil should worry about fixing Imus' technical troubles and his constant bitching on air about how bad they are coast to coast instead of worrying about what "5 or 6 sychophants" have to say about corporate demanded colon blow programming one night a week. Your station is about "content" Phil ... not about board posters looking for a "look what I made Phil Boyce do ... the idiot."

In the scheme of things, "Who really cares?" Nothing will change...in the end. Literally.
 
Phil Boyce said:
Now excuse me while I go back to my real job of running this wacky radio station...rather than trying to correct bizarre predictions on a message board by losers who haven't held down a job in this business for years.
Wacky radio station!?! :eek: You said it, I didn't...and I've been in this racket for over 18 years...and still in it, too. ;)
 
In the twisted logic of this boards sycophants, coming to this board to tell the truth and and squash those who would lie about my station is a bad thing. Keeping my mouth shut and letting people spew their ridiculous accusations that are 100% untrue...that is a good thing.

You would think that people who really care about radio would appreciate the fact that I come here to correct errors and report the truth. But no, in the twisted brains of these losers, reporting the truth makes no sense. Making things up, falsely accusing, predicting outlandish outcomes is a good thing. Those posts are rewarded. My attempts to maintain logic and actually report what is really going on is to be ridiculed.

The fact that Dr. Sniffles across the way deleted from his adoring flock any mention of this heresy on "his" board about "his" radio station shows the hypocrisy of it all.

Yes how hypocritical of the NYRMB to take down a thread that is a 100% fabrication. How infuriating of him to actually attempt to run a message board where this kind of foolishness is not encouraged.

John Rook didn't bother anyone here. His right. His blog. Phil Boyce injected himself over a miscalculated headline by a zealous board member here to make headlines ... and did. And Phil fell right through the trap door.

So John Rook has the right to lie about WABC...but I have no right to call him on it. And if somebody picks it up here and decides to try and embarass WABC with it, I have no right to step in here and correct the error and report the truth. I should just allow you people to have your fun and tell lies and make stuff up.

I understand there are 5-6 of you here that are playing a game. I know that you don't really believe what you post. I know that you are just stirring shit. And the fact that I stopped you just doesn't sit very well. I get that. Too bad.
 
Phil Boyce said:
So John Rook has the right to lie about WABC...but I have no right to call him on it. And if somebody picks it up here and decides to try and embarass (sic) WABC with it, I have no right to step in here and correct the error and report the truth. I should just allow you people to have your fun and tell lies and make stuff up.

I understand there are 5-6 of you here that are playing a game. I know that you don't really believe what you post. I know that you are just stirring ------. And the fact that I stopped you just doesn't sit very well. I get that. Too bad.


The fact that you go on the internet to 'rep-ra-sent' (ask one of the Imus co-hosts to translate if you don't understand the urban colloquial) diminishes you as a major player. You take this stuff seriously (do you? I'm not sure what's worse: If you do take this seriously, or you don't and still post). It's a fricken MESSAGE BOARD, nudnick! It's amazing that you do this as your stock tumbles. Don't you have anything else to task on, like finding an Imus replacement for when that old coot kicks or finally puts his foot in deep enough that you can't save him? As much as some people appreciate your wisdom, you're letting the air out of the balloon. Go golf.
 
Hey raydofan. Did you even read my last post? Or are each one of you morons going to trot out here to take me on...and this time the sentiment seems to be to ridicule me for doing what? Telling the truth. Correcting an error. Somebody said this is surreal. I agree with that. In a normal world, trying to get it right would be seen as a good thing. But because this is a message board filled with kooks with fake names, I should just sit back and let them spew their nonsense. If I dare come out here and try to correct them for telling lies and making stuff up, then somehow I am the bad guy.

I appreciate your concern for what I do in my spare time. It is actually therapeutic for me to come here and play wack a mole. When a head pops up, I just smack it back down. I enjoy defending my station against morons who know less than nothing about what is really going on.

There still are a few people on this board who actually do want to have a discussion about radio and how we can make it better. For those people, I continue to post. Nice try though.

pb
 
Phil Boyce said:
There still are a few people on this board who actually do want to have a discussion about radio and how we can make it better. For those people, I continue to post. Nice try though.

pb

If I were you, I would save it for over steaks at Houston's.
 
Mr Boyce,

Thanks for taking the time to set the record straight. As you know from your years in the business, it takes a creative mind to do well in radio. Sometimes they go over the edge. That is when the truth is needed.
 
So John Rook has the right to lie about WABC...but I have no right to call him on it.

Dear Phil:

I was nice the first time I tried in iputting a message about "fact" on page 2 of this thread. It was ignored. I'm not upset. It was a "public service."

I even took valuable time out of MY busy broadcast day to write you a nice letter of support that you didn't reply to, instead, took time out of YOUR broadcast day to come on here and spew forth about that which you have now twisted and turned so much ... it just keeps on twisting in the wind.

Phil, NO ONE ... your supporters OR detractors said nada about you having no right to "call him on it." No one said that John Rook has a right to "lie about WABC."

No one, for that matter, has any more right, you included, to stir up a hornet in bee's nest over ... something that was created by someone wanting to be a "headline star" and who started, essentially, a flame over nothing in a misrepresented headline that, if taken with Mr. Rook's blog, had nothing to say at all about the "who, what, when, why and why" of any fact whatsoever. You could have handled more professionally and more personally. Email messages are permitted here, as I'm sure you are away. Instead, you made a fool of yourself ... in an effort to make a fool of us. We have enough of those here, Phil.

As was mentioned, if you think that a "secret" leaked out from your office or Citadel higher ups that has caused your obvious upset, then you are sadly mistaken. There was no secret. There was nothing intimated other than a flight of fancy on how bad WABC has gotten in running "colon blow" programming that you are defenseless in doing anything about.

Sure, you called him on it. Good and honorable for you. And you should have.

But, you took "everyone" on this board to task, as "losers" and "wannabes."

Look, Phil, let me tell you something. You may admire Dr. Sniffles and his censorship of topics that some of us found amusing here about your precious radio station, but the fact is, now, it has nothing to do with "Colon Blow" programming ... it has to do with YOU as a professional. And some, in particular, me, in being tired of the sniveling and b******g that goes on here. You're right to your opinion and we welcome it. I for one, happen to be your most valuable commodity, Phil ... a LISTENER as well as a MINOR STOCKHOLDER of Citadel stock. And now, a p****d off one.

As a PD of a major radio station and a VP of Programming ... you have gone WAY over the line here, by your tantrum(s) and insults of people ... some who merely want to touch your ring or otherwise kiss your a** because you are the great Phil Boyce.

I am in this business and have been, successfully, for 38 years ... locally and nationally in big markets and small. And you, programming a radio station that for many hours a day, have no control of in content whatsoever (that from Premier/Clear Channel) must leave you a lot of time to snark here with your out-of-control ego.

Phil: Note this --

1. Could we please fix the technical issues that Imus keeps b******g about from coast to coast on 11 radio stations so he doesn't sound like a constant bore every hour he has to bring it up? Fix it, Phil, that's YOUR job. We have a syndication to roll out in two weeks time.

2. Could we please get Imus not to mumble so much? He's hard for the older demo to listen to, because most know, Phil, he doesn't appeal to "the next generation." He's Farid's friend...not yours.

3. Could you do something about the two-"weakest links" of the Imus program who add nothing to the program except ear candy once a shift? She's terrible, unfunny and he can't do sports to save his butt. Thanks for bringing Warner Wolfe back. Even it it's repeated in hour number four.

4. The mess on KABC is awful. Two hours in the middle of the night is not worthy of bragging rights just to say that the I-Man is on in Los Angeles. Either put him on our proud KABC or get him sold to KCAA or someone else. I hear that KCAA has a fight with you over the rate. That's what was posted on another thread here.

5. Tell the "young ones" out there who are wannabe's or fired for being losers why a big-time PD of 12 years in the nation's top market, in a station that has more legacy in 25 years than you'll have in a lifetime, would not defend his disability of not being able to fight sales for something as awful as "size of your wrist bowel movement" programming on a heritage 50kw flamethrower like WABC. Just come out and say, "I can't change it," instead of lashing out at people ... as you have. Just be honest with "the little people" Phil ... or be a big man ... don't get into the pettiness. You solved nothing by doing this. Except embarrass yourself, WABC and Citadel.

6. Phil, you've got a bigger problem as VP of Programming in San Francisco. Jack Swanson doesn't need the BS coming out in blogs, the papers, on radio and on TV about Bernie Ward anymore...someone who was taken off the air for an indictment that may or may not be true. The fact is, Phil, he was indicted and the press is eating him alive ... and so is Swanson's radio station ... KGO. Spend some time supporting him on a station, incidentally, that has a lot more "Arbitron rated #1s" than you and your legacy at WABC. Jack also worked, as you know, at WLS, too ... so, I'd not be knocking other stations so much. KGO is a leader. You are a syndicator ... and for, what, 16 hours a day. KGO has one hour of syndicated programming ... Dr. Dean Edell ... and he's based at KGO.

7. Hey, Phil ... another thing. Don't you think that with the talent pool of people available both inside and out of WABC that you might make an effort to run George Norry and Premier/Clear Channel's "Coast to Coast" a little less than 7 hours a day? Let me put on my tin foil hat here ... why, my bean-counter analysis tells me that this is equal to almost 30 percent of a broadcast day. You can't find something else instead of two repeats of Noory every night, except Saturday morning? (When we know what you do, there.) Even KABC has the benefit of starting Imus at 3 a.m. ... and that's due to time zones, not originality, gosh knows.

So, Phil ... now that you've defied what any good corporation would do by "joining the fans" instead of leading the cumes into the next plateau for WABC, maybe you'd better just stay at Dr. Sniffle's board, censorship and all ... because you'll do nothing but flame things here.

And as for "lies" ... that's a pretty big charge, and a serious one. If you have real challenges about "libel," I'm sure that Mr. Rook knows how the Legal Department of ABC/Citadel works. And I'm sure he would know how to handle a C&D ... which, if important, you'd have long ago sent by now.

I was a big fan of KIMN before you got there, Phil, and a fan of Colorado Springs, too. You're lucky to have landed the top spot at WABC. It's a shame you feel it to be your "right" ... not to set the record straight in a fair and professional way, but to alienate a lot of people here.

Maybe Randy Michaels will have the next way to handle you and WABC when he and Zell get cranking soon.

You owe this board an apology, Phil ... for being a snark and unprofessional.

And now you know ... the Rest of the Story.

You want to write, now? You have my personal email and my name. I look forward to your response. You certainly have time on your hands to write. You've proven that. And if this is TIO ... that's ok. I have Farid's email, too.

Deep down, I hope this isn't really Phil Boyce wasting his time. In fact, I find it really hard to believe. Harder, still, is if things like this aren't in his employment contract to avoid doing. I know at my company it is sure is.

Regards,
 
oaktree said:
1. Could we please fix the technical issues that Imus keeps b******g about from coast to coast on 11 radio stations so he doesn't sound like a constant bore every hour he has to bring it up? Fix it, Phil, that's YOUR job. We have a syndication to roll out in two weeks time.

I bet the Whoopi syndicated show didn't experience a lot of technical problems. And currently she's got as many affiliates as Imus!
 
Oaktree, if you really are in the radio business as you claim, post with your real name as I do then let's see how big and bad you really are. You seem to by somewhat confused over your own opinions on this issue. First you say:

John Rook didn't bother anyone here. His right. His blog. Phil Boyce injected himself over a miscalculated headline by a zealous board member here to make headlines ... and did. And Phil fell right through the trap door.

Then in your next post, after I spanked you a little you changed completely and said this:

Phil, NO ONE ... your supporters OR detractors said nada about you having no right to "call him on it." No one said that John Rook has a right to "lie about WABC."

You need to make up your mind. That was exactly what you were saying in the first post. That Rook was innocently posting opinions on his blog and I injected myself in it (as if it had nothing to do with me). Never mind that Rook was lying about WABC and worse, creating a scenario that never existed, but you said I injected myself and fell through the trap door. So what is it...do I have a right to defend my station...or should I sit by and let lies be stated unnopposed?

I have no problem with anybody posting an opinion about WABC or any of the stations I oversee, positive or negative. What I have a problem with is people who LIE about those things. And your defense of those lies is nauseating. You said John Rook didn't bother anybody here, as if he is completely innocent in this.

I would have a lot more respect for your opinion if you did not hide behind a screen name. I post using my real name. You all know who I am. Let's find out who you are, before you lecture me on when I should and shouldn't defend my station or my company against a complete fabrication.

You seem to think this was all started by somebody posting a bad headline on this thread. No, it was started by John Rook who made something up about my radio station and my company and the CEO of my company trying to make us look bad. I am not going to let him get away with it. He still owes me a retraction. I have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that what he reported never did happen.

He came onto this board to defend his post on his blog, when he should have come here to admit he made it up and retract it.
 
Here's the real rub - Phil has one of the greatest jobs in radio and I don't! Track record is about 50% of the deal - the rest is what have you done for me lately! WABC is still a successful radio station and you can't argue about that (although you can usually get an arguement about anything on this board!
 
Oaktree says:

Don't you think that with the talent pool of people available both inside and out of WABC that you might make an effort to run George Norry and Premier/Clear Channel's "Coast to Coast" a little less than 7 hours a day? Let me put on my tin foil hat here ... why, my bean-counter analysis tells me that this is equal to almost 30 percent of a broadcast day. You can't find something else instead of two repeats of Noory every night, except Saturday morning?

I run Coast to Coast 1am to 5am. I do not run it 7 hours a day. I agree completely that this is a waste of air time. None of the stations that I supervise repeat the show as you suggest.

The only people that I have made fun of here were the ones who took this lie at face value, believed it, and re-told it without any regard for the truth. Partricularly disgusting were the ones who wanted to ridicule me for attempting to correct the record. If you were one of those who did that, then you had it coming. If you were not, then my condemnation was not meant for you.

This is not a matter of an out of control ego. This is a matter of defending my station and my company against those who want to discredit it. I am not the least bit ashamed of doing that. In fact I think that is my obligation.

pb
 
Mr. Boyce -

Equal "status" with you on a job basis has nothing to do with this lively and sparkling discourse. As you know, anonymity in talk programming is what makes it rich, colorful and interesting ... a forum for people to talk without recrimination. The same holds true for a public forum board ... unless you are Dr. Sniffles, who feels it his right on his board to censor what he wants ... and he can.

That doesn't work here.

Who I am is, essentially and basically, none of your business, nor is what I do. The fact is, I am a listener and a small stockholder in your company. It doesn't matter who I am. And I, like other posters here, prefer that. You chose to "call yourself out" ... and that's your right.

Further, I wrote you a length, with proper works and full, understandable, well-written and correctly spelled words yesterday ... and you, at your right, chose not to respond.

Now, first, "my bad" on the time of the Norry program. You are correct and I confused it with other stations who do run the program 7 hours a night or longer. My apologies, Phil. You are correct. Could we ask, however, that you consider adding at least an hour to Curtis Sliwa's program. As you said, CtoC is "crap" and I deeply appreciate you're professional analysis. Maybe just think about it.

As for "lecturing" you ... Phil, for those of us who don't know you personally, though I have had the pleasure of meeting you at several NAB conventions and R&R conventions in the past and you are a friendly guy ... hence, my reason for writing to you PERSONALLY, not flaming you as others have.

As for my "contradiction..." Phil, Mr. Rook didn't come here at all in the beginning. Someone else interpreter his personal blog and brought it here. You then went off on him as a defense. I think I'd have gone to him, as, again, several of us did, and simply ask "Why'd your write that, John?"

In fact, the Radio Racket did just that ... and John went on their air coast-to-coast to say, in person, that he holds nothing about you, has no dog in fight with you, and ... yeah, maybe said what he said in a way not to people's liking because he happen to tune in on his "wifi radio" (as I do) and heard the "big as your wrist bowel movement" programming and it really ticked him off. But he didn't come here to write it. He wrote it on his own blog, just as many people do in writing blogs both positive and negative.

Now, about comments negative to Citadel. Phil, the word's out that Farid is interested in dumping properties and many of us in the business ... both smaller and larger than you ... understand that. It's in all the papers, as you know. We understand. But Phil, the company had it's best day on the stock market yesterday in a month ... and is still at $2.13 a share. I bought it at $9.00. You think I'm a happy camper? Think not, my friend. And just the day before, the price was $1.96 a share ... down to $1.91 for a second day in the row ... the lowest in 52-weeks. You telling me I have no right to pitch a b***h? I don't hold PDs responsible, but I sure as hell hold VPs. Tag, Phil ... you're it.

So, now we have those pleasantries cleared up and I'll gladly send you this by email or snail mail, with full disclosure if you want. I don't care if you are who you say or not ... I'd just like, for the sake of a business going south these days with Clear Channel and the rest heading in a bad direction ... get it right before the poop hits the fan.

Now, pb ... you went hunting for alligators when you could have just drained the lake ... and still didn't identify any of the 6 other "problems" I mentioned ... things that are really important to you, Citadel and WABC. That irks me ... since you came back to answer another volley of criticism.

So, now that we're on cordial ground ... what would you like us to do to help you? I'd like my stock to go up ... and the problems I raised are real, not perceived. Incidentally, I have been an ABC affiliate in most markets I've been in, from Wilmington, DE, to California ... Texas to Oregon ... and many in between that I chose to affiliate ... not inherited because I like ABC. So much, I've invested and lost quite a chunk in it so far.

If you're man enough to come here ... then all I asked was questions. I didn't flame you. I didn't call you out as a loser.

Like Howard Cosell long before you, I just was "Speaking of Everything."

Warm regards, Phil, and thanks for participation. Please fix Imus. Fast. OK? More important than Colon Cleanse "bowl movements bigger than your wrist."
 
XTalker said:
Here's the real rub - Phil has one of the greatest jobs in radio and I don't! Track record is about 50% of the deal - the rest is what have you done for me lately! WABC is still a successful radio station and you can't argue about that (although you can usually get an arguement about anything on this board!

WABC is essentially a prestige branding outlet for syndicated programming.

The station's listenership consists almost entirely of upper-demo baby-boomers and what is left of the WW2 generation, most of whom live in the 'burbs.

Lino
 
Oaktree got this one wrong:
As you said, CtoC is "crap" and I deeply appreciate you're professional analysis. Maybe just think about it.

I never said Coast to Coast is crap. I agree that stations that run it 7 hours a night are missing a huge opportunity to add something of value to their stations. Coast to Coast is the #1 rated overnight program in NYC on my station. As for Curtis I would love to find him more hours and I am working on that with him.

Despite what some may think, I pick my battles on these message boards. I ignore most of what I read. When somebody lies about my station or my company, I fight back. Sure, I could do as one person suggested and ignore it because after all it is only "a message board." But if there is a lie floating around about my station and somebody sees it here and I don't refute it, I run the risk of too many people thinking it's true...and never remembering what the source was. In this case, Rook came to this board to defend his blog comments instead of to admit he got this one wrong. He got it wrong big time, and there were attempts to discredit my station with his erroneous report...which he invented. This thread could have ended several pages ago if he wanted to just admit he made a mistake. But as of today he refuses to do that here. If he did it on that little radio show, nobody heard it but about 5 people.

As for the stock of Citadel, that is not something I want to comment on. I agree with you that it is too low and I believe it will come back. I too am a stockholder, so I feel your pain. We are doing everything in our power to improve the situation.

As for Imus, the technical issues you talked about have been corrected. There will always be issues when you do a show on remote everyday. We have to do the show from a TV studio, where we tear it down after the show and plug it all back in the next morning. It is perhaps the most complicated radio remote I have ever witnessed, and we do it everyday. But things are getting better and the shows are sounding great.

I can't remember the other 4 things, but I will take a look and see if it makes any sense for me to start commenting on them here on a public message board. It probably doesn't, but I will take a look.

Next time you meet me at some convention, introduce yourself as Oaktree. That will make for an interesting discussion, don't you think? ;)
 
OK I took a look and this one I will choose to respond to, since it is remotely associated with what this thread is about:

5. Tell the "young ones" out there who are wannabe's or fired for being losers why a big-time PD of 12 years in the nation's top market, in a station that has more legacy in 25 years than you'll have in a lifetime, would not defend his disability of not being able to fight sales for something as awful as "size of your wrist bowel movement" programming on a heritage 50kw flamethrower like WABC. Just come out and say, "I can't change it," instead of lashing out at people ... as you have. Just be honest with "the little people" Phil ... or be a big man ... don't get into the pettiness. You solved nothing by doing this. Except embarrass yourself, WABC and Citadel.

As I stated before, these infomercials we air on that one night, Saturday morning 1am to 5am, were begun about 8 years ago. The amount of money people will spend on a station like WABC to get a half hour of time is enormous. In that one night, I make more money than I do in all the other 6 nights combined, for my company. If you want to complain about the stock price of my company, you can't also bitch that we made a decision that makes us too much money. Every PD in America fights the infomercial battle. The decision should be, can I add this without hurting my station.

In the case of these infomercials, I agree that they suck. But there is no evidence that they have hurt WABC. In fact if you break out the ratings on the 7 nights of the week, the infomercial nights scores about the same as the other 6 nights. So without hurting ratings, we have added probably a million dollars to the bottom line of WABC. You can qucikly figure out how a PD of my stature can lose that battle when those dollars are floating around in the Sales Managers head.

Having said that, by allowing infomercials on the wee hours of the morning, I have been able to stave off more serious attempts to getting my prime time hours during the day. You do not hear infomercials on WABC during the day, because I can tell the sales department they got what they got, and they will not get anymore.

I have these battles all the time. I usually win them. This is not a problem unique to WABC. Most newstalk stations run infomercial on the weekend...and it drives listening down to dust. Every talk stations weekend numbers are soft...but I have some really good programming on the weekend and my weekend numbers are better than a lot of talk stations for that reason.

For example, Mark Simone does two great shows for me on Saturdays. 6-10am is the best interview show I have ever heard and he gets huge guests. Saturday Night Oldies airs 6-10pm, when WABC may be the only newstalk station in the nation to get away with running an oldies show. It is a throwback to the old WABC and it works.

Larry Kramer does a great show for me Saturdays 10am to 1pm...followed by Monica Crowley, another great show. On Sundays, Religion on the Line is so good you would forget it is about Religion, and it has aired for 23 years. Ric Edelman's money show is one of the best I have heard. The Money Pit is one of the best home improvement shows I have heard. Eric Hastings Travel Show is not your fathers travel show. For baby boomers who finally get some money to spend, it is a great show. Sunday nights, I brought John Batchelor back from 7-10pm. It is a fascinating look at world issues with a great "theater of the mind" feel to it. I am not trying to brag about my weekend shows (well maybe a little) just trying to show those other PD's you referred to how you can create quality shows on the weekend that ALSO make the station money, without resorting to infomercials which I have often compared to crack cocaine.

As long as I can keep decent shows on the air, and make a little money with them on the weekends, I hope to keep the infomercial wolves at bay.

instead of lashing out at people ... as you have.

I hope that was nice enough for you. But I remind you that the only people I lashed out at were those that were lying about my station to try and embarrass my company, and those who then defended that lie. I reserve the right to continue to lash out at those people, if you don't mind.

pb
 
Infomercials vs. Jets Football on WABC

Mr. Boyce,

It is my understanding that the New York Jets coverage that airs on WABC (as well as WEPN to a greater extent as far as pre- and post-game festivites are concerened) is also paid to be broadcast by its producers, MSG. Hence, WABC would be compensated for having these games on its air. With that said, would you be willing to confirm if that four-hour block of infos on Saturday mornings makes WABC more money than a Jets game on Sunday afternoon? I am not sure if WABC gets any advertising revenues out of the carriage of Jets games, though it is my understanding that the games are on WABC due to the limited signal of WEPN.

Also, could you be able to confirm if one Seton Hall basketball or one Army college football broadcast makes more money for WABC than one infomercial. I just want to get the sense of how monetarily important the sports programming is on WABC, and if you could clear up any confusion on this issue, should it exist.

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
One of the five faithful listeners of that Internet radio show on Friday nights,
Joseph C., Bronx, NY
 
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