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WABC dropping "Coast to Coast AM" for infomercials

Phil... it's Christmas fer cryin' out loud. Spend some time with your family and forget about this board for at least 24 hours. Life's too short. Besides, isn't there anything for you to assemble... or maybe a program or game to install on your computer... one that makes Vista and your computer act crazy and requires way too much of your time attempting to fix the problem? You'll excuse me now, I have to call tech support somewhere in New Delhi.

Happy holidays.
 
What the hell is this, I don't know about yall but I post on here frequently and when a thread I am interested in is updated I get an e-mail on my cellphone telling me so and I can check it if I get a free minute. Has this thread got so pathetic that the biggest problem you have is the frequency of someones posts? Really? Seriously? Really? That's idiotic. Now back to the party. Time spent reading this thread and typing this post - 2 minutes (I hope thats ok).
 
Re: WABC dropping

Phil -

Did you not say that "colon blow infomercials suck?" Yes you did.

Was there anything I personally said to you via email or on this board about WABC that -- from Imus to stocks wasn't factual, accurate and truthful? I'll answer that for you, Phil. "No."

Is it not true that that you realize after 150 posts that MOST people post here use private aliases ... just as YOU do in talk radio ... a medium that you are most familiar? Why is it any different here? Do you know your company's shareholders by name who are disappointed in your performance? How about your declining audience? Do you know them by name, too? "No." Lucky for you, sir, that you don't. I'm one of them.

Phil, I have the same Maximizer you do on my machine, and I'm well aware of what you're doing, believe me. It's "out there." It's important what you do, because I'm an investor in you. You're not one in me.

Calling me a "coward" only shows your inability to communicate professionally. It doesn't matter who I am. If I told you I was Bill Drake, would that mean anything to you? How about Walt Sabo? Dan Ingram? Cousin Brucie? Would these mean anything if I posted that here? Of course it wouldn't.

And note, too, Phil, that not once have I called you out in disrespect as you have not only me, but others, here. In fact, I wrote to you, privately Phil, and not once did you respond ... not even with a "thanks" for posting the "true facts" about this dust-up before you even got on this thread.

Finally, Phil ... you are program "scheduler" of a heritage 50,000 watt, clear channel flagship radio station with a 3 share that's seen better days. I have the Maximizer too, Phil, so no need to baffle me with your brilliance.

Where's the class I thought you had, Phil? Keep up the good work. As a shareholder, that's most important to me. Your good work. Nothing more ... nothing less. Proud of those infomercials, Phil, while your stock sits in the very toilet described in those "long ads?"

Phil, honestly, get a toddie and some rest. Santa's on his way. Merry Christmas!
 
Dear Phil Boyce,

There were a few things that you said that were invalid. You said that you only were going to try to abuse people who spread rumors and lies about WABC. You gave me abuse and all I did was give an opinion about the Saturday night oldies show and WABC Rewound. Personally, I don't really care either way about anything to do with talk radio. I am neutral in regard to all talk radio. I am not neutral when it comes to the Saturday night oldies show and WABC but, I am not spreading any rumors, just voicing an opinion which I will continue to do. Am I going to stay anonymous on this board? I will stay anonymous on here for now but, have no problem telling you directly on the phone exactly what I think. All I need is a phone number to get you and the hours you are available and I will call you. I would even meet you in person and tell you to your face. For all the groupies reading this on here, you can email me at [email protected] I will give a return email response to every email that I receive that is not moronic and actually makes a valid point about something. I still stand by what I have said in earlier posts. I also know that Arbitron ratings on the weekend usually fluctuate a great deal because of the small sample taken so I don't take weekend ratings too seriously. There is also the fact that the total audience for all Saturday evening radio is small. You said you had a 300% ratings increase on Saturday night with the oldies show. That could mean that you started with 10 listeners and now have 80 listeners so saying a 300% ratings increase on Saturday kind of makes it sound much more impressive than it really is because the total audience for Saturday night radio is small. There is no actual way of knowing who is listening to the Saturday night show on A. M. skip at night but, I still think it is all groupies. With computers, other digital stuff and IBOC, normal people would very unlikely put up with the additional A. M. night interference that was not present in the old days. I still think that WABC Rewound has run its course because it is out of new material and should go by-by.
 
Re: WABC dropping

Oaktree. Just give it up. You have now attacked me, WABC and Citadel at least a dozen times on this thread alone. All using a fake name, saying things you would never have the ***** to say in real life. I think everybody knows that now. Nice job. Please post one more time about colon blow. You have a strange fascination with the subject.
 
To: Phil Boyce

From: Newsperson

I hope your enjoying your Christmas night. I am up in Connecticut visiting my nice. I am here for just a few days from San Francisco.

It was a pleasure to see posts from the program director of WABC. On the San Francscio board a production person from KGO does make comments. As Newsperson you will also find me on the San Francisco board.

It would be a pleasure to have some private contacts with you outside of this board. Please write to me at my e mail address which is listed in my profile.

I appreciate the opportunity to make contact and discuss some different and important subjects.

And to everyone may you have a great Christmas night and a sucessful return normal (if there is such a thing) tomorrow.

Newsperson
 
Mr. Boyce-

I have e-mailed you privately thru this site and asked you publicly on this forum, and you still have not answered. Will you be able to join us on this Friday night's show?

I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that would like to hear what you have to say about this thread, as well as many other topics.

I don't "have a dog in this fight". We spoke with Mr. Rook last week, and we'd like to offer you equal time.

Hope to hear from you soon.


Kyle
 
Kyle D says:

I'm sure there are a lot of people out there that would like to hear what you have to say about this thread, as well as many other topics.

Kyle, I have a 50,000 watt flame thrower at my disposal that reaches from Canada to Florida, hitting 38 states and 7 countries at night. I do my own Ask the PD show from time to time. I would prefer to explain what WABC does there, on my own station.

Not a knock against you, I just see this as a pointless argument. I have already proven beyond all shadow of doubt that what Rook reported on his site was a fabrication. I don't need to even address it any further.

But thanks for asking, really. It was a nice gesture.

pb
 
No problem Phil, but this thread would have been the smallest part of the interview.

We do a show about the radio business and we would have liked to talk to you about your career, the future of radio, and many many other things.

You have an open invitation to come on the show, so if you'd like to do it sometime in the future (after this all blows over, which is may already have...), let me know.

By the way, our station hits every country on Earth...;D
 
...while your Saturday night ratings, Phil, are #21 "in the demo."

WABC is 15th 12+ Saturday night. It is 21st 25-54.

I'm thinking old demos, Phil. Think very very old.

Nice try. Hey! ... it's Friday night ... you know what that means for 38 states and 7 countries ...

Incidentally, you ought a put "SuperSub" Mark Samone on more often. He did a credible job filling in for your boy Hannity.

And Phil, I gotta tell you ... that stock price is still a p****r.

$2.08 and dropping ... like your flat ratings.
 
Oaktree....better known as my stalker...finally makes a post in which he does not even mention colon blow. Congrats:

$2.08 and dropping ... like your flat ratings.

Can't do much about the stock price, but the NYC PPM numbers will be out on Monday. WABC will have a huge fall book in the PPM, just my prediction. Let's say something in the mid-4's...#5 or 6 overall...#1 AM in NYC...beating WINS. Best book since 1995.

And Imus will be a hit.

pb
 
Well, Phil ... I congratulate you on your fine speculation. As a 5-figure investor (a low one at that,) that's the news I needed to hear.

And I hope you're right. The problem is ... you can't use the PPM for anything but bird-cage liner and you know that. The sampling is wrong and the methodology is horrid. But I will, for your kindness, grant you this. If the book is not so good ... because of the warnings that you've received, as I have, about the "credibility" and "reliability" of the New York PPMs, you get a pass, because the numbers are meaningless. Now, if they are "great," over a 3.6 (still down, but moving from "flat," -- then you can't take credit and do back flips, because you know perfectly well that both the cumes and the TSL are out of whack, big time in NYC.

Phil, rightly or wrongly, I've been on this forum three to four times longer than you. I've had disagreements with others, as they have with me. But ... in the end, I've also had a lot of support and kindness from a great number of people here and on other forums ... many now friends. I have, in fact, learned a great deal here on Radio-Info ... and after 38 years in 125 markets, Phil ... I'm glad I didn't stop thinking after 1968.

I was part of the audience of your, then, non-syndicated radio station before you ever heard of Rick Sklar ... who, incidentally, consulted an FM in my market just days before his untimely passing. I have the original tape I recorded of the blackouts of the '60s from WABC ... and still refer to them when Dan Ingram was on the air for 23 hours straight ... mostly from your transmitter.

I have fond memories, sadness and thoughts of the progress of WABC ... even as a talk station, Phil.

However, on that "stalker" charge. We can fix that. First, I kindly wrote to you in a very kind manner several times. You refused to answer or acknowledge this. You kept coming back "for more" to take and to dish it out out of silly pettiness. I raised some real issues about WABC long after the John Rook incident.

Second, I praised you for your move with Mark Simone, who I remember from WIP in Philadelphia, as a listener.

Third, Phil, on stalking ... if you really feel that way, then you need to stay with your good Doctor friend and his controlling interest at the NYRMB. You've long ago made your point once, which was plenty enough, and after you and the posters had already been informed that you were right ... including my posts early on that it's one night a week. Remember that post, Phil? I sent it to you, personally. You didn't reciprocate in kind.

Now, I have an interest in your company because of your comments directed to me and to others on this board who take issue with you. Phil, it's a PUBLIC message board. No one has forced you to use your "real" name ... just like no one is forced to use their "real" name with your screeners, your hosts or on your air. I acknowledge that you realize that by your admission to the "anonymity" of the Internet, though you know it was just as true at WJR as it is at WABC. You're not being stalked, Phil, you're coming back to the trough ... but now, maybe, just maybe ... as the PD of a station that reaches 38 states and 7 countries.

A corporate manager who is respectful and understanding of both sides of an issue.

This point, Phil ... Dan Mason, says, he is "...probably the only corporate president of a radio group that looks at the message boards to see what people are saying about CBS Radio." I quote that, because I have the quote, in writing.

Further, you are a huge figure in talk radio and in syndication circles, Phil ... The BIA shows your revenues year after year. It's not hard to get ... pricey, but not hard. What I'm saying, Phil, is that many posters have taken Clear Channel's John Hogan to task here, and his station(s) beat WABC hands down in several markets in and out of the metro.

He's been crucified for his moves regarding employees, flips, purchases, sales, etc. You know that. Dan Mason came back twice as president of CBS Radio to undo ... and take heat ... for that which came before his second term and, as you know, it wasn't pretty and it's still not pretty in some markets. And let's not go on about Joel Hollander, who was burnt at the stake by many here, long before he finally got 'nudged' out of CBS after the dust-up with Les Moonves and what had turned out to be a "non-radio" corporation. "Free FM" and Imus still leave a bad taste in many mouths ... especially advertisers.

And there are others, Phil ... Bob Neal at Cox Radio, one of the smartest people radio planet ... and his group has been ripped to shreds here. Lou Dickey at Cumulus has been treated the same. I'll save you the time by telling you that Rick Buckley, the Beasley's, Entercom, Goodman's "GoodRadio LLC" which didn't happen ... a lot of people have been held under the microscope here ... including you. And these are people with the same passion, desire, ability to survive and be successful, as are many others in this business we ALL love ... the business of radio.

It's not just about "Phil."

You and I have radio stations and groups ... yours larger than mine, to take care of and to deal with.

Phil, be with us not above us ... no matter how "stoopid" we may seem to you. Because in the scheme of things, it's not about you. It's about Premier, TRN, ABC Radio, local hosts and local things happening in an 80 station market.

WABC doesn't have a 20, 40 or 60 share anymore, Phil. It has a 3.3 share in diary surveys.

We all stand to learn here ... and maybe, a chance to L-I-S-T-E-N ... that's all.

Now, this way too long post to you is out by email, again.

And if you would, go on the Radio Racket. They're good people. Look 'em up at www.radioracket.com Drop Kyle an email at [email protected] or George or Roscoe. Even for just a few minutes. Those who listen are "in the demo" Phil ... and we might become more enamored at what you're trying to do. A p****g with we me or anyone here isn't going to change anything.

Nor ... do we want it to. Best wishes and Happy New Year, Phil. And thanks to all posters here for your time.
 
Phil....I've got it. You turned all these folks down for a job at one point, right?

You have quite a following, and I think I would look over my shoulder coming and going from WABC.
 
He's never turned me down for a job.

And, Phil, why not just acknowledge what was kindly said to you and quit coming back for another shot in the mouth? You're the most compulsive person and so small minded. The last post wasn't an affront to you. You're no better than anyone else who has been grilled here, so, what makes you so special? Let it go, Phil. You're a corporate guy for gosh sakes, just like, well, I already mentioned the names. You might know them, in fact.

Incidentally, speaking of obsessed, how come the police didn't arrest that guy who asked "The Great One" a question at the book signing ... you know, the one you thought was going to make a fool of Hannity ... and you called the cops.

That was pretty funny. I give you kudos for that.

Maybe I'll see you in the conference room when we go over Citadel's urging that you not post on public message boards. I think it's in the policy guidelines handbook. It's in the HR Department, Phil.

Seriously, let's do lunch. 4 Seasons? Tavern on the Green? McDonald's? Someplace near 30 Rock. I have a job to tend to and I don't have all day to listen to your whining. I'll have my people call your people.
 
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