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MsMusicRadio said:
I know I asked this before, but why was did 620 have a good nightime signal around 1988? It was so good it sounded city grade on a clock radio

Different site, across from Greengate Mall. The land was sold, that's why they had to relocate it.
 
WHJB was 2,500 watts day, 500 watts night, both directional. The land under the WHJB towers was
sold off and it was at that time that Bob Stevens purchased the station. He moved the tower to its
present location (near Wendell PA) and raised the daytime power to 5,500 watts. The nighttime I've
described in an earlier post. At least it has the benefit of being on a low frequency.

MsMusicRadio, I don't know where you live but WHJB's 500 watts at night was heavily directional into
Westmoreland County. I live about 10 miles south of Pittsburgh city proper, and get the current NDA
nighttime signal about as well as I did WHJB.

C.
 
cingram said:
WHJB was 2,500 watts day, 500 watts night, both directional. The land under the WHJB towers was
sold off and it was at that time that Bob Stevens purchased the station. He moved the tower to its
present location (near Wendell PA) and raised the daytime power to 5,500 watts. The nighttime I've
described in an earlier post. At least it has the benefit of being on a low frequency.

MsMusicRadio, I don't know where you live but WHJB's 500 watts at night was heavily directional into
Westmoreland County. I live about 10 miles south of Pittsburgh city proper, and get the current NDA
nighttime signal about as well as I did WHJB.

C.

I don't live too far from you and I have noticed the current night signal of KHB is
significantly worse than the old WHJB-AM.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
I don't live too far from you and I have noticed the current night signal of KHB is
significantly worse than the old WHJB-AM.

Depends on where you are, I guess. WJAS didn't move their site all that far, but I am noticing a significant
degradation in their nighttime signal here.

C.
 
cingram said:
Depends on where you are, I guess. WJAS didn't move their site all that far, but I am noticing a significant
degradation in their nighttime signal here.

Which brings us to the longtime WJAS site on Crane Avenue (before Heftel made the move out near the Squirrel Hill Tunnel). Just how bad was the night pattern from that location? As I recall, it was very troublesome in Monroeville and points to the east.

And...going WAY back into time...just how good was WWSW at 1490 when it was high atop the North Side? My dad (who lived in Crafton at the time), recalled that old facility came in stronger than the new plant at 970.
 
cingram said:
WHJB was 2,500 watts day, 500 watts night, both directional. The land under the WHJB towers was
sold off and it was at that time that Bob Stevens purchased the station. He moved the tower to its
present location (near Wendell PA) and raised the daytime power to 5,500 watts. The nighttime I've
described in an earlier post. At least it has the benefit of being on a low frequency.

MsMusicRadio, I don't know where you live but WHJB's 500 watts at night was heavily directional into
Westmoreland County. I live about 10 miles south of Pittsburgh city proper, and get the current NDA
nighttime signal about as well as I did WHJB.

C.







Squirrel Hill
 
cingram said:
FreddyE1977 said:
I don't live too far from you and I have noticed the current night signal of KHB is
significantly worse than the old WHJB-AM.

Depends on where you are, I guess. WJAS didn't move their site all that far, but I am noticing a significant
degradation in their nighttime signal here.

C.

Yes, absolutely. I am not a big 'JAS fan, but my dad listens all the time, and the
signal has really gotten choppy and unstable.
 
Bob E. Nelson said:
And...going WAY back into time...just how good was WWSW at 1490 when it was high atop the North Side? My dad (who lived in Crafton at the time), recalled that old facility came in stronger than the new plant at 970.

As I understand it, the old WWSW at 1490 only ran at 250 watts. With the population much more tightly concentrated
around the City of Pittsburgh, perhaps that was enough. I can see where a clean 250W non-directional might be
better than 5kW in a weird pattern if you are not located out towards the periphery.

I also remember when 13Q moved from Beechview out to Squirrel Hill, and it did not
seem to make any difference in my South Hills neighborhood.
 
The old WWSW 1500 (later 1490) site where channel 11's xmtr is located used a well-casing tower. I don't know if this made any difference or not. However, at night there was a lot of QRM. So much so that it always sounded as though they had a studio audience and that they were murmuring in the background. I understand that they had an old GE xmtr.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
cingram said:
FreddyE1977 said:
I don't live too far from you and I have noticed the current night signal of KHB is
significantly worse than the old WHJB-AM.

Depends on where you are, I guess. WJAS didn't move their site all that far, but I am noticing a significant
degradation in their nighttime signal here.

C.

Yes, absolutely. I am not a big 'JAS fan, but my dad listens all the time, and the
signal has really gotten choppy and unstable.

I haven't heard a problem, per se, but it would not surprise me for a bunch of reasons, all of which come down to location, location, location. However, given the station's listener strength southeast of the city, in places such as Irwin, what you're suggesting would not be good news, particularly for those who might be tuning in Sunday nights for Terry Lee, who had his strongest audience, of course, in and around McKeesport.

By the way, I remember when WJAS moved to the old site on the slag pile across from what now is the Waterfront. It was one of three stations you could hear in your tooth fillings in Homestead (WTAE and WPTT/WMNY from Calvary Cemetery were the others, though at one time I'd also include the old WLOA-1550 in Braddock). I seem to recall the north-south pattern was aimed at bringing in as many Pittsburgh suburbs as possible. Then again, for all the 13Q hype, it almost seemed AM 1320 could be called larger-than-life, if only for a brief time.
 
When I lived in Richmond Va and got nostalgic for Da Boig, 13Q would come in loud and clear nights when WEET signed off. I even remember hearing a commercial for National Record Mart. Nothing from Richmond even remotely can be DX'ed in Tampa----not even WRVA although 1650 can be picked up from Virginia Beach. What happened to AM?
 
The hole in the new WJAS night signal would appear to hang over some of the more
settled, well-established parts of town....Mt. Lebanon, Bethel Park, Baldwin/Whitehall,
West Mifflin, Green Tree, Dormont, etc. Areas with lots of residents in their target
demographic. Maybe they've decided to go after Cranberry and Seven Fields, but if
so the format no longer makes sense.
 
FreddyE1977 said:
The hole in the new WJAS night signal would appear to hang over some of the more
settled, well-established parts of town....Mt. Lebanon, Bethel Park, Baldwin/Whitehall,
West Mifflin, Green Tree, Dormont, etc. Areas with lots of residents in their target
demographic. Maybe they've decided to go after Cranberry and Seven Fields, but if
so the format no longer makes sense.

I don't think that was so much a decision, but an unintended consequence of having to moving the site.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
620 should go 5,000 watts non-directional DA-N, go full time 50's-60's oldies and have either live jocks or use people like John Landecker off the bird. Also PAMS-like jingles. And stream online so I can listen in Florida. How about it?

I appreciate the thoughts of you and others who have suggested that 620 KHB go full-time Oldies. I suggested
this myself on several occasions. The radio station, however, is making too much money with paid programming
to change format.

While there may be minor changes, like the addition of news or live personalities on WKVE, I don't expect to see
any major changes at any of our three stations -- barring a real game-changer, such as Frankie Day leaving the
air for unforeseen reasons.

C.
 
my suggestion would be to offer live web streaming, but you would end up having to pay for one huge-a** server with all the people from around the globe who'd be logging on to listen to 'KVE!
 
FreddyE1977 said:
The hole in the new WJAS night signal would appear to hang over some of the more
settled, well-established parts of town....Mt. Lebanon, Bethel Park, Baldwin/Whitehall,
West Mifflin, Green Tree, Dormont, etc. Areas with lots of residents in their target
demographic. Maybe they've decided to go after Cranberry and Seven Fields, but if
so the format no longer makes sense.
WJAS does not make it to Butler County after dark,The Signal is Static in Northern Allegheny County. I live 13 Miles NW line of Site from them, and the signal is Bad , Sometimes Unlistenable.
 
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