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Want oldies? Forget terrestrial radio!

Yes, forget it it, its a losing cause as the experts in COMMERCIAL radio have told us on here numerous times. Oldies cant play to the advertisers because oldies plays to the 55+ gang- and that is taboo. So be it. Oldies listeners have the problem- not the advertisers, deal with it. Whats one to do? Get satellite radio (XM or Sirius). Why you ask? For one, the advertisers play no role in what is programmed on music channels- they only go by what the paying subscribers/listeners want. And guess what, $12.99 spends the same from a 55 year old as it does a 24 year old!! Oh yeah, and there are a lot of people over 55 out there. Times change and so does the delieverance of music formats....there are options to listen to oldies (with far more than 400 title playlists), it just so happens terrestrial radio is not one of them. I, and almost 11 million others have found ways to curb out 50s and 60s golden oldies appetitites....because they dont care where the bucks come from as some do. And yes, sat radio appeals to the over the hill gang very well, and the younger ones as well, because it can offer something for everyone. You have to pay for what you get.....those oldies fans that listen to FREE radio have found that out the hard way...move on. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by AZJoe on 03/21/06 01:15 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Yes, forget it it, its a losing cause as the experts in
> COMMERCIAL radio have told us on here numerous times.
> Oldies cant play to the advertisers because oldies plays to
> the 55+ gang- and that is taboo. So be it. Oldies
> listeners have the problem- not the advertisers, deal with
> it. Whats one to do? Get satellite radio (XM or Sirius).
> Why you ask? For one, the advertisers play no role in what
> is programmed on music channels- they only go by what the
> paying subscribers/listeners want. And guess what, $12.99
> spends the same from a 55 year old as it does a 24 year
> old!! Oh yeah, and there are a lot of people over 55 out
> there. Times change and so does the delieverance of music
> formats....there are options to listen to oldies (with far
> more than 400 title playlists), it just so happens
> terrestrial radio is not one of them. I, and almost 11
> million others have found ways to curb out 50s and 60s
> golden oldies appetitites....because they dont care where
> the bucks come from as some do. And yes, sat radio appeals
> to the over the hill gang very well, and the younger ones
> as well, because it can offer something for everyone. You
> have to pay for what you get.....those oldies fans that
> listen to FREE radio have found that out the hard
> way...move on.
>
Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+ crowd. This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
 
Thanks for the commercial.

How much are XM and Sirius paying you?<P ID="signature">______________


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Want oldies?

So, why don't you sue them?


> Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+ crowd.
> This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
>
 
> [Thanks for the commercial.
>
> How much are XM and Sirius paying you?]


I would guess that satellite radio is building its subscription base on word-of-mouth, not commercials. When you have a great product, people find out about it.
 
> Yes, forget it it, its a losing cause as the experts in
> COMMERCIAL radio have told us on here numerous times.
> Oldies cant play to the advertisers because oldies plays to
> the 55+ gang- and that is taboo. So be it. Oldies
> listeners have the problem- not the advertisers, deal with
> it. Whats one to do? Get satellite radio (XM or Sirius).
> Why you ask? For one, the advertisers play no role in what
> is programmed on music channels- they only go by what the
> paying subscribers/listeners want. And guess what, $12.99
> spends the same from a 55 year old as it does a 24 year
> old!! Oh yeah, and there are a lot of people over 55 out
> there. Times change and so does the delieverance of music
> formats....there are options to listen to oldies (with far
> more than 400 title playlists), it just so happens
> terrestrial radio is not one of them. I, and almost 11
> million others have found ways to curb out 50s and 60s
> golden oldies appetitites....because they dont care where
> the bucks come from as some do. And yes, sat radio appeals
> to the over the hill gang very well, and the younger ones
> as well, because it can offer something for everyone. You
> have to pay for what you get.....those oldies fans that
> listen to FREE radio have found that out the hard
> way...move on.
>

XM is good. I have it. But there is also other outlets including internet radio, CDs, MP3s/Players, and back to commercial AM/FM radio (Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel, ABC Oldies Radio, Jones Radio's Oldies Service, WJMK HD-2, WCBS HD-2, several HD-2 stations, WOLX Madison, and several oldies outlets that remain on the AM and FM dials.)


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> XM is good. I have it. But there is also other outlets
> including internet radio, CDs, MP3s/Players, and back to
> commercial AM/FM radio (Scott Shannon's True Oldies Channel,
> ABC Oldies Radio, Jones Radio's Oldies Service, WJMK HD-2,
> WCBS HD-2, several HD-2 stations, WOLX Madison, and several
> oldies outlets that remain on the AM and FM dials.)
>

Lots of Internet stations play the oldies that terrestrial radio doesn't.
WJMK and WCBS -- do they stream those?? Otherwise you can only get them if 1) you're local to them and 2) you have the HD-receivable radio. Jones Radio, ABC radio don't stream to my knowledge and Shannon's channel is on the Internet only on WREF. BUT the big problem is portability. Somewhat solved if you can record off the Internet and burn that recording onto a CD. That is a hassle but I've done it. And Satellite radio channels that have the echo chamber on full blast I can't stand. Never liked WABC in its day and hated it when CBS-FM did it. On XM I don't like my decades separated so much .... and Terry "Motormouth" Young is NOT the kind of DJ I want to listen to in 2006! Face it, the large Oldies music playlist is gone forever from radio and non-comms in the SoCal area have zero programming of oldies. IMHO gotta get our "fix" from the Internet including the oldies stations like WBIG-FM HD-2 Washington, DC and KQLL-FM HD-2 Tulsa that play a good variety of 50s and 60s music along with a Standards station like WMGE-FM HD-2 Miami. Too bad they can't/won't stream in higher speed than 32 kbps but it's acceptable.
 
> Yes, forget it it, its a losing cause as the experts in
> COMMERCIAL radio have told us on here numerous times.
> Oldies cant play to the advertisers because oldies plays to
> the 55+ gang- and that is taboo. So be it. Oldies
> listeners have the problem- not the advertisers, deal with
> it. Whats one to do? Get satellite radio (XM or Sirius).
> Why you ask? For one, the advertisers play no role in what
> is programmed on music channels- they only go by what the
> paying subscribers/listeners want. And guess what, $12.99
> spends the same from a 55 year old as it does a 24 year
> old!! Oh yeah, and there are a lot of people over 55 out
> there. Times change and so does the delieverance of music
> formats....there are options to listen to oldies (with far
> more than 400 title playlists), it just so happens
> terrestrial radio is not one of them. I, and almost 11
> million others have found ways to curb out 50s and 60s
> golden oldies appetitites....because they dont care where
> the bucks come from as some do. And yes, sat radio appeals
> to the over the hill gang very well, and the younger ones
> as well, because it can offer something for everyone. You
> have to pay for what you get.....those oldies fans that
> listen to FREE radio have found that out the hard
> way...move on.
>
"far more than 400 title playlists"? Most mainstream FM "oldies" stations have around 300 title playlists. A minor improvement to (far more than) 400 titles means that I might only hear the same song twice every three days, instead of every day.
 
> Thanks for the commercial.
>
> How much are XM and Sirius paying you?
>

> Paid nothing, happy subscriber to both. I thought this was a forum for oldies lovers/fans- didn't know you couldnt subscribe to XM and or Sirius and not brag about how they deliever superior oldies playlists! Who pays you- terrestrial radio? Enjoy the commericials.
 
> I thought this
> was a forum for oldies lovers/fans- didn't know you couldnt
> subscribe to XM and or Sirius and not brag about how they
> deliever superior oldies playlists!

When your bragging amounts to the 3,157th time it has been posted, I get tired very quickly.

To correct you, this is a forum to discuss the radio format called "Oldies".

> Who pays you-
> terrestrial radio?

As a matter of fact, yes. You read my profile?<P ID="signature">______________


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I agree - the future of a variety of oldies is off the radio dial. I have Sirius and enjoy Sirius Gold (especially when Norm N. Nite is on) and 60's Vibrations (with Cousin Brucie, too).
For those not going the satellite route, I suggest hylitradio.com put together by Philadelphia radio icon Hy Lit from Wibbage, a great variety of oldies 24/7 from the 1950's-'60's with the Philadelphia doo-wop favorites mixed in.
 
> Yes, forget it it, its a losing cause as the experts in
> COMMERCIAL radio have told us on here numerous times.
> Oldies cant play to the advertisers because oldies plays to
> the 55+ gang- and that is taboo. So be it. Oldies
> listeners have the problem- not the advertisers, deal with
> it. Whats one to do? Get satellite radio (XM or Sirius).
> Why you ask? For one, the advertisers play no role in what
> is programmed on music channels- they only go by what the
> paying subscribers/listeners want.

Yeah...right! Satellite providers don't even know what channels are being listened to, much less "what the paying subscribers/listeners want". Same ol', different delivery method...probably more voicetracking on the satellite services than in the top 50 markets put together. Not worth $13/mo to me....nor apparently to the over 200 million others who don't subscribe.

> I, and almost 11
> million others have found ways to curb out 50s and 60s
> golden oldies appetitites....because they dont care where
> the bucks come from as some do.

And how many of those almost 11 million are listening to oldies at any given time? Not enough nationwide to support a station in market #200.

Apples & oranges here...I'm glad you enjoy it, but don't represent yourself as a typical listener.
 
> > I thought this
> > was a forum for oldies lovers/fans- didn't know you
> couldnt
> > subscribe to XM and or Sirius and not brag about how they
> > deliever superior oldies playlists!
>
> When your bragging amounts to the 3,157th time it has been
> posted, I get tired very quickly.
>
> To correct you, this is a forum to discuss the radio format
> called "Oldies".
>
> > Who pays you-
> > terrestrial radio?
>
> As a matter of fact, yes. You read my profile?

Yep, and I am unpaid, and don't cloud my judgement by money, I'm on here for the mere love of oldies. Of course you hate alternatives to terrestrial radio, they threaten what you stand for and who you work for(competition). As for the "3,157th time" a brag about other ways to enjoy oldies on the radio, I also get tired very quickly of those of you who are in a hurry to bury oldies on radio,& must listen to your side 5,156 times. What are you correcting me in? We are discussing the oldies format and it is on more than just terrestrial radio- radio isnt just those outlets anymore. So, when the topic of oldies is discussed, that it is now presented in a better way than what terrestrial radio is doing, whats the beef? I bet you if you asked 10 people who enjoy the oldies format, to listen to the presentation of terrestrial oldies vs either that of Sirius or XM, 9 out of 10 would choose satellite's version, hands down. I cant see where people who have given up on oldies would have a problem with other alternatives to it being presented to the audience. Simply put, ads drive commercial terrestrial radio and the powers that be say oldies are obsolete on their outlets. I agree, but I dont give up liking my oldies, I simply find other ways to recieve it....and it is quite enjoyable.
>
 
Hy Lit radio is excellent.

Also,

Rockinradio.com
forgotten45s.com
hitsofyesteryear.com
rockitradio.com
Ricky The K Solid Gold Time Machine
WSTB (on Sunday's)

and many more


> I agree - the future of a variety of oldies is off the radio
> dial. I have Sirius and enjoy Sirius Gold (especially when
> Norm N. Nite is on) and 60's Vibrations (with Cousin Brucie,
> too).
> For those not going the satellite route, I suggest
> hylitradio.com put together by Philadelphia radio icon Hy
> Lit from Wibbage, a great variety of oldies 24/7 from the
> 1950's-'60's with the Philadelphia doo-wop favorites mixed
> in.
>
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Yeh, and that is in the cities that even have an oldies station. What is the matter with a post and a plug for satellite oldies programming here?

It is nice to hear someone give praise to what he likes and enjoys instead of the usual complaining and kavetching about what bugs him and everyone else.

Positive comments are nice to read for a change. The negative ones outnumber the positive ones here.

And then there are the posts about the death of oldies radio. I will take positive posts over the others.

It's A Beautiful Day.

I bet you if
> you asked 10 people who enjoy the oldies format, to listen
> to the presentation of terrestrial oldies vs either that of
> Sirius or XM, 9 out of 10 would choose satellite's version,
> hands down. I cant see where people who have given up on
> oldies would have a problem with other alteratives to it
> being presented to the audience. Simply put, ads drive
> commercial terrestrial radio and the powers that be say
> oldies are obsolete on their outlets. I agree, but I dont
> give up liking my oldies, I simply find other ways to
> recieve it....and it is quite enjoyable.
> >
>
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That is economics and it is not illegal. It is a business practice.

> Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+ crowd.
> This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
 
Re: Want oldies?

Probably because it would be laughed out of court.

> So, why don't you sue them?
>
>
> > Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+
> crowd.
> > This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
[email protected]</P>
 
Re: Want oldies?

> Probably because it would be laughed out of court.
>
> > So, why don't you sue them?
> >
> >
> > > Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+
> > crowd.
> > > This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
> > >
> >
>
Peppertree's right. It probably would get laughed out of court. Or not even make it to court, for that matter.
 
oldies?

I was kidding, guys. Age discrimination- RIGHT (LOL).

Works both ways, if the poster was serious. Why not sue the adult stations for not going after younger listeners.

Totally stupid.


> > Probably because it would be laughed out of court.
> >
> > > So, why don't you sue them?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Actually, the advertisers are biased against the 55+
> > > crowd. This amounts to age discrimination, in my opinion.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> Peppertree's right. It probably would get laughed out of
> court. Or not even make it to court, for that matter.
>
 
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