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Want to buy a radio/2 for casual listening (mostly AM, incl DX). (Some existing radios kaput.)

Hi …


I’ve been out of the radio hobby/etc for a while now (and not really planning to get back into it cause of other things going on that are taking up my time). But, I I still do like to listen to some programs now and then.

Many of my radios aren’t functioning properly for various reasons. (Some partly work, some are pretty much totally kaput.) So, I’m looking at buying 1, or maybe 2, radios.

It / they will be mostly for casual listening, however I would like them to be good DX performers as some of the stations I want to listen to aren’t local to my area. Also I’d like to have plenty of choices for what to listen to. (It would be great if I could find a radio that’s sensitive and selective enough to get a station on every single frequency during daytime on AM, and on FM, but I have my doubts if one exists...)


I’m still in the east county San Diego area (same where I’ve been all my life thus far). I eventually want to move, maybe to a more rural location (for example maybe some place where the strongest AM signals are the nighttime skywave class A’s, and nothing during the day is stronger than about 500 µV/m or so) in the western half of the USA, outside California. I don’t know when or where yet, though. I’ve looked some in the last year or two at moving to another place in my local area for now, but have basically been priced completely out of the market. (One or two places I remember almost looking at, happened to literally be 1 or 2 blocks or so east of the KFMB transmitter site, so that would have been a challenge to get stations like KKOB, KCBC, KOAL, WSB, WJR, etc.)




Anyway … I’m basically looking for one, and if possible, two different radios.

First, I’d like a “shirt pocket” size radio that’s a decent performer, reasonably priced, etc.

As I’ve said, I’ve been out of the radio hobby for a while, but I was looking a little bit recently, and the Sangean DT-800 looks appealing. Is that a good one? I’d prefer the gray one, but know nothing of the seller (VirVentures) who’s selling it on Amazon right now. (It helps that it’s fulfilled by Amazon though.)

Or are there other ones I should consider in a similar size / price category? I’d prefer to stick with more well-known brands, but I might consider others if they have great reviews, AND have great reliability. (I’ve had a love/hate relationship with several of the Tecsun radios I’ve had. In rural areas they seem to be quite sensitive, but in my suburban location they get swamped with overload. Also, none of them are working properly anymore, nor is my Traveler III.)


I’m primarily interested in AM, and there’s a few FM stations I want to listen to as well. I don’t really need shortwave or longwave, even though several of my radios can receive it.

Also, for the smaller radio, having better dynamic range / overload rejection and selectivity would be more important to me than having tight nulls on a directional antenna. I will often be carrying & using the radio while doing things around the house or yard, and don’t want fringe stations fading in and out as I (with the radio) am turning / facing different directions. (For example, KERN, which has been heard here on an occasion when KCBQ was off the air, or KALL, which has been heard once or twice even through XEWW splatter, as well as some others.) (On the larger radio, having both would be nice, as I’d be more likely to set it down somewhere and use the speaker.)

I’d strongly prefer a radio that’s “vertically” oriented, rather than horizontal. (Hence, looking at the DT-800, instead of a Tecsun PL-series radio, although I know the 368 is vertical but I”m not sure about its performance with the built-in antenna.)



If I also get a second radio, I’d look for a larger one, hopefully under about $100 or so, or maybe a bit more. One that comes to mind is the CC EP Pro or something like that, although I’d prefer to have a digital readout, and if possible a signal strength meter similar to the Tecsun radios. How would the sensitivity and selectivity on that compare to the GE Superadio III ? I still have a working SR3, so if the CC isn’t significantly better - as in, if the CC can’t clearly hear a station that’s buried in the mud or splatter on the GE, then I probably wouldn’t want it. (Another way to put it for sensitivity: I’d love for the new “larger” radio to be as much better than the SR3, as the amount of improvement you get on a typical shirt pocket radio when you add a Select-A-Tenna or longwire or something like that - I’m thinking around 20+ dB or so.)

Also what about the CC 2E or 3 (or whatever), or maybe some other radios? (Just looked them up though, they're a bit higher priced than I'd like, but If I could find something similar in the $120-140 range or so I might consider it. Would the ~$180-200 CC's be worth the higher price, though? Radiojayallen's review does concern me regarding its suceptibility to overload.) I did briefly have a Sangean PR-D15 several years ago, but returned it for various reasons, one of which I think was low volume on weaker stations. My CC Pocket has the same issue, although I’ve been using it until recently when it effectively gave up the ghost. It powes on, but is locked to 910 kHz on page 0, and gets absolutely no reception even though I have a local 5 kW station 9 miles away on that frequency that, until the Traveler III went kaput a while ago, would read around 70 dBµ or so. My DT-400W is also another recent casualty - has no sign of life even with fresh batteries installed. (I also have a non-functional Eton E1 and Sony ICF-2010, I wonder if there’s a way to get those working again? I hadn’t used them in several years but I recently put fresh batteries in them but they aren’t lighting up at all, I’m hoping it’s just something I’m doing wrong…)

Speaking of the CC Pocket, I wonder if I should consider getting another one? I wonder if mine was a dud (it also only had audio on 1 side of the headphone jack, and the clock would reset when replacing the batteries, among other things), maybe another one would be better than my sample?
 
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You mentioned the Sangean DT-800, and in general I trust Sangean for high-quality at any size. However, considering that you do want a shirt-pocket sized radio, the AM band is going to take a hit one way or another. I would have a look at this compilation to help you determine what radio will work best for you.

I'm sorry to hear that your Tecsun radios just quit on you. Based on size and performance, the CCrane CC Solar Emergency Radio would be a good fit for you, however it is horizontal, and not vertical, as you have asked. Personally, I carry around an R-108 that performs quite well on AM, and fits in my shorts pocket, but is a bit larger than would fit in a shirt pocket.

So, you want to move to a more rural location that prioritizes night-time clear-channels? Also, I see that your locals need to be less than 500 µV/m. I don't quite know how much power that is, however, I presume you don't want spurs, harmonics, or heterodyning, so you probably want to be about 2.25 miles away or more from your weaker transmitters, and 5+ miles away from the stronger ones. You have noted being one block away from a transmitter, and also being 9 miles away from another transmitter (at 5kw) and still getting 70 dbu on your radio. Just to be on the safe side, I would bet you want to be about 15 miles from your transmitters. That would make them still very listenable on a good radio, but with nearly no heterodyne. You mentioned you want to get away from California (can't blame you there LOL), so there are several places in the west that might serve your needs, but the decision must come down to you. Finally, you said the following:
It would be great if I could find a radio that’s sensitive and selective enough to get a station on every single frequency during daytime on AM, and on FM, but I have my doubts if one exists...)
This one is very tricky, however Du Bois, Nebraska, Castle Rock, Colorado, Nephi, Utah, and Atlantic, Iowa all come close to filling up the AM band, whilst still being within an hour or so from a big city. Of course, having a really good radio helps, and buy a "Terk Advantage" passive loop, or a twin-coil ferrite bar, that will really boost reception.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!
 
Of the CCranes, I'd opt for the one with the "analog" tuning (DSP tuner, analog dial), the one that looks the most like an SR3. I think it's the CC EP Pro. I've heard too many stories of their digital readout radios acting up.

Sorry you got rid of the PR-D15, they're supposed to be like a PR-D5 with tone controls, and the PR-D5 works quite well... The issue you noticed is one that can happen with DSP portables, the AGC is slow, and so on weak channels, the stations are weaker sounding then they are on analog chipped DX portables like the Superadio. Some people mistake the low volume on weak channels as soft muting, but it isn't, at least on the Sangeans I have (PR-D5, PR-D14, PR-D18). They're all good, but a really weak channel will be weaker sounding than an analog IF chip radio. I just crank it to fit. The PR-D5 has a 1-2 watt chip.

RE: the EP Pro, I have read it's comparable to an SR3 in DX performance. I've thought of getting one but I'm a bit radio'd up right now. Although it has an analog dial it has a DSP chip that tunes using a potentiometer, and CCrane seems to have worked the bugs out of it by now. They can't get analog IF chips anymore so they went analog tuned DSP.

PS, nice to see you back. You used to post a lot when I first found this place.
 
(bleh, PC had issues and I had to force restart, so I lost the partial reply I had typed...)



You mentioned the Sangean DT-800, and in general I trust Sangean for high-quality at any size. However, considering that you do want a shirt-pocket sized radio, the AM band is going to take a hit one way or another. I would have a look at this compilation to help you determine what radio will work best for you.
Ah. Yeah I know a shirt pocket size radio won't be as good as a much larger radio, but I'd like to get something as good as possible in that size. And that roundup by RadioJayAllen is actually the main source I've looked up for radios, was just wondering if there's others that maybe he hasn't tested but others have experience with?
Also I do wish that the size of the radios would be taken into account, rather than just rating them all absolutely. For example, let's imagine there's a shirt pocket radio that does excellent for that size radio, then a SR3-sized radio that, maybe due to circuit design or a small-for-chassis-size ferrite bar, is a "dud" compared to similar sized radios. (The larger radio is still more sensitive than the smaller one though, even if not by a lot.) For me personally I'd rate the smaller radio higher than the larger one, taking size into account, even if the larger one is more sensitive.
All the shirt pocket radios, as well, seem to be rated the same, 1 star, rating, but in the DT-800 review he does say that no other shirt pocket size radio outperforms it on AM. And I've noticed differences between a few of the models that I have as well.

I'm sorry to hear that your Tecsun radios just quit on you. Based on size and performance, the CCrane CC Solar Emergency Radio would be a good fit for you, however it is horizontal, and not vertical, as you have asked. Personally, I carry around an R-108 that performs quite well on AM, and fits in my shorts pocket, but is a bit larger than would fit in a shirt pocket.
Yeah, they kinda tend to do that, so I'm wanting to get something that's made better. On pretty much all of them, the keypad goes kaput, at least in part (some buttons are difficult or don't work at all). Individually...
PL-380 - tuning knob broke, some keys not working.
PL-606 - display (frequency area) busted, although last I knew the signal strength portion still worked.
PL-398mp - something happened with the DSP chip and it won't receive anything at all.
PL-398bt - internal ferrite bar broke (I think, i may have had it open once and don't remember if the bar itself broke or the wire.) It still receives stations, but very weak, even strong locals.

As for others... the Traveler III's tuning knob broke, the CC Pocket is stuck on 910 kHz on page 0 with no reception at all (even though I have a local 5 kW 9 miles away that was hitting ~70 dBµ on my other DSP radios when they were working, except the PL-380 which is capped at 63, the DT-400W won't respond at all even with batteries, nor with the Sony ICF-2010 or Eton E1.
Also even when the CC Pocket was working, the audio on less-strong stations would be at a much lower level than the strong locals, especially in the portions of the band where the locals were desensing it. (Other radios, the same stations were much "louder", even if they weren't as sensitive as the Pocket at least in rural areas.)

So, you want to move to a more rural location that prioritizes night-time clear-channels? Also, I see that your locals need to be less than 500 µV/m. I don't quite know how much power that is, however, I presume you don't want spurs, harmonics, or heterodyning, so you probably want to be about 2.25 miles away or more from your weaker transmitters, and 5+ miles away from the stronger ones. You have noted being one block away from a transmitter, and also being 9 miles away from another transmitter (at 5kw) and still getting 70 dbu on your radio. Just to be on the safe side, I would bet you want to be about 15 miles from your transmitters. That would make them still very listenable on a good radio, but with nearly no heterodyne. You mentioned you want to get away from California (can't blame you there LOL), so there are several places in the west that might serve your needs, but the decision must come down to you.
Well, I pulled the 500 µV/m figure kind-of out of my gluteus maximus, but looking at calculated signal strengths and video / audio of previous reception ... I could probably raise that to 1 mV/m or so.
Also it's a MUCH lower field than you would get 2.25 or 5 miles from a full power transmitter. :) that would be more like a few hundred miles from a Class A over good ground, or 30 or 40 miles from a Class C or something like that.
Also I don't currently live 1 block from a transmitter and never have, although one place I had looked at happened to be pretty close to a 50 kW station (5 kW daytime).
That 5 kW station 9 miles away on 910 is also shared with a 50 kW on 1170 (2.9 kW at night), and that's the strongest daytime station here at around 80 dBµ. (At night, 760, 7 miles, is the strongest, at about 81 or 82 dBµ.)
15 miles still wouldn't be far enough, unless it was like a TIS station. :) I'm thinking, more like 50+ miles from a class C, 150+ miles from a typical Class B, or 300+ miles from a class A. :)

Anyway, I'll link a spreadsheet of daytime stations I've heard at my location, along with their calculated signal strengths.


Finally, you said the following:

This one is very tricky, however Du Bois, Nebraska, Castle Rock, Colorado, Nephi, Utah, and Atlantic, Iowa all come close to filling up the AM band, whilst still being within an hour or so from a big city. Of course, having a really good radio helps, and buy a "Terk Advantage" passive loop, or a twin-coil ferrite bar, that will really boost reception.

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!
Ah. :) It would be nice to have the maximum # of choices on the dial. :) Challenge would be doing it (having stations on every single channel at midday in summer at solar maximum) in some places in the western part of North America, especially like eastern NV, southern Utah (not near St George), or northern Canada. :) I wouldn't necessarily expect the shirt pocket size radio to do very well, but for a larger portable, I would want it to hear a lot of stations. :)
Also, if I'm between stations ... rather than hearing just a blank channel, I'd rather have co-channel interference where both stations are "armchair copy", however that's defined. For example, something like....
(Now if reception could be that strong on the larger radio if you're right in the middle between two co-channel Class A stations, for example CKLW and XEROK, bonus points for doing it this close to WHB without any splatter, assuming no HD....😂)
 
Of the CCranes, I'd opt for the one with the "analog" tuning (DSP tuner, analog dial), the one that looks the most like an SR3. I think it's the CC EP Pro. I've heard too many stories of their digital readout radios acting up.
Ahh. I'd actually prefer a digital readout. I already have a working Superadio III, but would like a digital readout, and something that's much more selective, sensitive, and with much wider RF dynamic range.

Speaking of dynamic range, I've been quite disappointed in pretty much all the DSP radios I've tried. I'll just post a couple video examples of the CC Pocket vs the DT-400W, tested at 2 locations, one video for each of 2 frequencies. (At the end of them is a bit on the SRF-M37W, which was not tested in the first location.)
First location was 32.8939, -116.9278, second was 32.6297, -116.4730. (There's a building at the site of the 2nd location that wasn't there when I went there.)
830 KLAA -
1070 KNX -
On both, at the first location, the Pocket receives no trace, while the 400W has a usable signal.

For sensitivity, on the larger radio, I'd like about as much of an improvement over the SR3, if possible, as the SR3 has over the PL-398bt (broken ferrite bar) in this video clip....


Sorry you got rid of the PR-D15, they're supposed to be like a PR-D5 with tone controls, and the PR-D5 works quite well... The issue you noticed is one that can happen with DSP portables, the AGC is slow, and so on weak channels, the stations are weaker sounding then they are on analog chipped DX portables like the Superadio. Some people mistake the low volume on weak channels as soft muting, but it isn't, at least on the Sangeans I have (PR-D5, PR-D14, PR-D18). They're all good, but a really weak channel will be weaker sounding than an analog IF chip radio. I just crank it to fit. The PR-D5 has a 1-2 watt chip.
Ahh, yeah the low audio on weaker stations was a turnoff for me.
I put the various bandscan videos I've uploaded to YouTube in a playlist, there's a couple with the PR-D15 in there.


RE: the EP Pro, I have read it's comparable to an SR3 in DX performance. I've thought of getting one but I'm a bit radio'd up right now. Although it has an analog dial it has a DSP chip that tunes using a potentiometer, and CCrane seems to have worked the bugs out of it by now. They can't get analog IF chips anymore so they went analog tuned DSP.
Ahh, I hope the analog-tuned DSP is better than the chip in one of the Radio Shack portable radios (12-586) in one of the videos in the above playlist. (With that one, I hear distinct steps as the radio is tuning, whereas if I was getting a radio with an analog dial I'd expect smooth tuning like an actual analog radio.) Also I'm looking for something that's a fairly big jump up from the SR3 or PR-D15. 😊

PS, nice to see you back. You used to post a lot when I first found this place.

Yeah :) I haven't been around much, have had other life things going on, and kinda been out of the radio hobby for the most part. I'm not getting back into it right now, just need to get something to listen to various programs and stations, and I don't want to get a dud. :)

I've noticed as I was looking around here recently, that some people that I used to see frequently are now listed as "guest". One in particular is rbrucecarter5 - I remember pretty much always liking his posts, I miss seeing him here and idk if he's posting somewhere else in radio forum land. (I do see him now and then on facebook since I follow him there, but it's usually not radio posts, and i'm not fully connected (not friends, just following) so I don't think I can comment there.)

I came across a post (can't remember which thread now, it was in like 300 or so tabs 😲 I'd opened on my phone while I was browsing) where Bruce mentioned two types of DXers - one camp being those who try to get as many stations as possible, etc, and another who DX out of necessity, either because the program(s) they want aren't available locally, or they live in a remote location. He was saying he fell in the latter camp, and I'm pretty much there too, for the most part.



Anyway ... For now, I think I'll just get the DT-800W in black. It's a few $ cheaper than the yellow one, and I prefer that color anyway if I have the choice. I'm ordering it direct from Amazon - there's a couple 3rd-party sellers that are a buck or two cheaper, but I'm not familiar with them, and feel more at east ordering from the river in south America. 😊
(Edit: just ordered, black DT-800 from Amazon.)

As for a larger radio ... I'd love to get one (that as I said would trounce the Superadio III and PR-D15 in every way), but ...
one of the "life" things going on is the factor of being quite disorganized, way too much of a packrat, etc, and needing to get rid of some things. I plan to keep the SR3, E1 and ICF-2010 for now (even though the latter 2 aren't working right now), but some other radios, I'm looking at getting rid of them.
Once I figure out which ones I'm keeping vs getting rid of, or at least take inventory, I'm thinking of making a post to ask for advice - what to keep / let go, and how / where to get rid of them, at least ones that either work, or could be used for parts. (I don't think I want to use ebay, I'm not really set up for it, and have virtually zero experience with shipping things.)

So, I think I'll hold off on getting a larger radio for now, although I'd probably still be interested if someone knows of a particularly good one.
 
I think with the CC EP-pro I think you'd still get the ratcheting -- it's very difficult to not have ratcheting tuning with a DSP system. But reports say the sound is good, and it's easy enough to tune.

Also, that Sangean DT400W seemed to do a pretty good job for you. Maybe get a second one?

RE: Bruce Carter: he used to be active on the FB "I Love AM Radio" group, but hasn't been active on it for the past 2-3 years at least. Haven't seen him active here.
 
I think with the CC EP-pro I think you'd still get the ratcheting -- it's very difficult to not have ratcheting tuning with a DSP system. But reports say the sound is good, and it's easy enough to tune.
Ah. If it has to tune in steps, I'm thinking ... if it combined very fine steps, like 100, 10 or even 1 Hz or finer steps, with not muting between steps, it could still have a good "analog" feel. (For example, look at the Eton E1 and Sony ICF-2010 videos in the playlist I linked earlier. Also the Radio Shack 20-629 doesn't mute between steps, and in its 1 kHz mode I have to be listening carefully or using the "right" technique to discern that there are "steps". It's not shown in the video in the playlist, I was just doing 10 kHz steps.
Now, those aren't DSP radios AFAIK, but I wonder if DSP radios could be made to behave similarly...
Also, that Sangean DT400W seemed to do a pretty good job for you. Maybe get a second one?
Yeah it was okay ... but there were situations where its selectivity and overload rejection, although it was miles better than the CC pocket, was still not nearly as good as I wanted.
And the big gripe I had with it was the way the presets, vs manual tuning, worked on it. On that radio, the presets were its own separate "band", and when you switched back to a manual-tuning AM or FM band it would go back to whatever frequency you were on with that band.
But, with pretty much every other radio I have used, you could set presets ... one option being a bunch that you could then rotate through the tuning wheel like on the DSP radios that have 100 presets per band. On my PL-606 I had something set up like #52 = 520, #53 = 530, #54 = 540 ... #99 = 990, #100 = 1000, #1 = 1010 .... #50 = 1500, #51 = 1510, which enabled me to keep using the radio for a while even when the frequency part of the display broke. (To tune higher frequencies like 1520-1710, I'd just grab another radio with a 450 kHz LO, and tune it 450 kHz lower than the frequency I wanted, tune the '606 to grab the signal, then switch off the other radio.)
With other radios with push-button presets (most commonly 5, but some like my car radio have 6), I would set several stations scattered across the band - for example 640 (KFI), 760 (KFMB) or(and if 6) 910 (KECR), 1070 (KNX), 1280 (KFRN) and for quite a while 1580 (KMIK or 1700 (XEPE) although those were from when those ran Disney and sports. (I suppose I could use 1530 (KFBK) or 1560 (KNZR) but I don't listen to those a lot.) Then, I would hit the button closest to the frequency I wanted, then tune up / down from there. On radios with multiple banks, I would kind-of space them a bit differently, like pick "in-between" frequencies, but usually on / near stations I was likely to listen to.
Not so with the DT-400W. It didn't matter that I would have like 12 or 13 or so AM presets saved, and a few FM, in its 19 presets. Even if, say, I was tuned to 600 on manual mode and I wanted to go to 1240 ... I couldn't go to the presets, call up 1280, then go down 4 clicks to 1240. When I went back to the manual "band" it would put me back at 600 and I'd have to manually go all the way to the station I wanted. So that was quite tedious chore, so I mostly relegated the DT-400W for either bandscans, or listening to specific pre-determined frequencies.

Speaking of presets, that got me thinking ... I wonder how some companies come up with the "default" presets on their radios ... is it totally random chance, or are there actual stations (except the very bottom and top of the band) on those frequencies at a location where the radio is designed or manufactured? For a couple examples, I've often seen default presets on 5-button radios as something like 520 (or 530), 600, 1000, 1040 and 1710.
My older Panasonic "walkman-style" cassette portables used a sequence of 520, 630, 1460 (big gap between #2 and #3), 1490 and 1710. The RQ-SW20, or its twin the RQ-SW10, were my main radio for many years since I was in my teens, before I got involved with the online groups. I was pretty disappointed in the sensitivity of the RQ-SW44V, there's a bandscan in the playlist linked earlier. Selectivity was also not their strong suit - they were comparable to the Sony SRF-M37W without a modified IF filter.
The very first radio (yes I know I've deviated from presets a bit 😊) I ever had was a freebie, yellow ultronics sports radio, that I'd gotten as a freebie with a bicycle for my 10th birthday in 1991. The one in the bandscan video with that model isn't the exact same unit, but it's very similar if not the same model. I knew it was a pretty bad performer, but when I saw it on eBay I jumped on it.
I also for a time had an analog-tuned yellow "sports" Sony walkman radio/cassette player between the Ultronics and Panasonic, but I can't remember the model. I vaguely remember the selectivity being somewhat better than the Panasonic, though. I still feel bad for my grandpa paying the full $100 MSRP from JCPenney for that RQ-SW10 for my 13th birthday (April 1994) even though it could have been gotten for $60 or $70 at other places (but I didn't know that), even though he's passed away 11 and a half years ago by now. Also some years back I bought another one on ebay, and the seller and I both found it interesting that the bid price was low enough that I was paying more for shipping than for the radio. :) Given the performance, or lack thereof, I wouldn't advise anyone pay more for the radio than for shipping. :D (That is, as long as the shipping cost was done properly .... I remember shopping for a computer part a few times back in the days when ebay didn't include the shipping cost in the seller fees ... there was one listing for a part that retailed for $130 ... buy-it-now was 1¢, shipping was $129.99 ... I didn't buy from that seller. 😝)

As bad (a typo almost had 2 s's in the previous word which actually could have been appropriate 😛) as that ultronics radio was for sensitivity and selectivity, it was actually an incident using that radio that originally got me into DXing. :) I remember one night I was laying in bed, tuning around... and I noticed an extremely weak station right at the noise floor sandwiched between a local Mexican station on 860 and a religious station on 910, being splattered on by both locals simultaneously but more so by 910, and I noticed the station was nowhere to be found in the daytime. I talked to my dad about it (who was a radio, but not broadcast, engineer at the time, although in the 1960s he had spent some time in that capacity at KECR), and he explained a bit about skip and things, and we went to the car radio, and figured out it was 890 KDXU from St George, Utah.
RE: Bruce Carter: he used to be active on the FB "I Love AM Radio" group, but hasn't been active on it for the past 2-3 years at least. Haven't seen him active here.
Ah. I'm part of that group as well (as well as ultralight dx and another radio group or two), and see posts coming up in my notifications now and then, but I rarely if ever post there.
 
RE: presets from the factory: on Sangeans, they may be used to check alignment. They seem to be different on each radio. I use the five presets on my three DSP Sangeans as general locators, usually on a station I like listening to.

The Radio Shack 200629 is an updated ATS-505. The lack of ratcheting between stations when using the tuning knob wasn't a feature in the older ATS-505s, at least according to reviews. I think the lack or ratcheting is a microprocessor feature, as the radio uses a regular analog IF chip. I use my 200629 for MW listening and DXing a lot, although it usually needs a loop for DXing here in the hole of a valley where I live.

For pocket radios, have you considered the CC Skywave? It's pretty small, and SomeRadioGuy I think uses one to DX with. I don't recall if you mentioned that one, but a lot of DXers seem to swear by it.
 
(lost stuff again, due to a necessary forced PC restart...)


RE: presets from the factory: on Sangeans, they may be used to check alignment. They seem to be different on each radio. I use the five presets on my three DSP Sangeans as general locators, usually on a station I like listening to.
Ah, alignment, that makes sense. I've seen some alignment procedures for some radios and if I remember right, they mention using the bottom and top of the band, as well as 600, 1000 and 1400 kHz, and I've seen those frequencies as presets on some radios.

The Radio Shack 200629 is an updated ATS-505. The lack of ratcheting between stations when using the tuning knob wasn't a feature in the older ATS-505s, at least according to reviews. I think the lack or ratcheting is a microprocessor feature, as the radio uses a regular analog IF chip. I use my 200629 for MW listening and DXing a lot, although it usually needs a loop for DXing here in the hole of a valley where I live.
Ah interesting. Yeah I've seen that some of the RS radios were rebranded Sangeans. I remember some years back (maybe late 1990s or in the 2000s, I forget now), I wanted to get a DX-398 or ATS-909 or something like that. That, or I wanted some radio with "DC to daylight", all modes coverage, etc, that would just fit in a spot in my bunk bed that was about 15 1/4" tall by 36" wide. I wanted it to have two switchable (or phaseable) AM antennas - a ferrite bar that spanned the entire 36" width of the radio, and an open-air loop that spanned the entire 102.5" circumference. (And, of course, excellent selectivity and overload rejection... and I knew I didn't have anywhere close to the $ to buy one then, I think the DX-398 was several times higher than what I could afford at the time.)

For pocket radios, have you considered the CC Skywave? It's pretty small, and SomeRadioGuy I think uses one to DX with. I don't recall if you mentioned that one, but a lot of DXers seem to swear by it.
I don't think I mentioned the Skywave in this thread, but it was one I considered several months or a year or two ago. I think for now though, I'd prefer a vertical orientation for an ultralight radio, like the DT-800, and for a radio with horizontal orientation I'd want one large enough to accommodate a longer than 8" ferrite bar. Also I like the idea of having the dBµ signal meter, and I don't think the skywave has it. But I'd heard good things about its sensitivity and selectivity. It just doesn't, afaik, have a belt clip, so would have needed to go in my pants pocket when I'm carrying it. Doing so would necessitate orienting the loopstick vertically, which in my experience (with the Tecsuns and others) significantly hurts sensitivity on AM. (I've been able to almost completely null a couple 50kW AM stations less than 10 miles away by orienting the ferrite bar vertically at just the right angle.)


Anyway the DT-800 arrived today. Doing a few quick checks, it's pretty selective and sensitive on both AM and FM it seems, although weather band seems a fair bit weaker than the DT-400W.
Also I observed the AM side gets hammered by desense a lot around strong signals, which was something I was hoping to avoid. For example, I tested tonight by putting it next to the Select-A-Tenna, tuned to a local 50 kW on 760 that's 7 miles away, and it pretty much "muted" almost the entire band, with only some of the stronger signals breaing through. (Even some of the locals halfway across the band were at a significantly reduced volume.
I imagine it would have done the same thing at midday with a 50kW station on 1170 that's 9 miles north. I would have liked to be able to hear stations on 1160 (10kW at 163 miles south) and 1180 (50kW at 237 miles northwest), which I have heard at midday on one or two occasions when 1170 was off the air, but do it while 1170 is on.
Also if a radio here could get 680 (50kW at 445 miles NW) and 700 (50kW at 626 miles north), both of which have made the midday trek to my location (albeit with help from external antennas, careful nulling of a pest, etc), in spite of a 77kW 690 at 32 miles south, that would be nice too. :)
Having defeatable soft mute is nice, though (and it defaults to off anyway).

A couple things I was hoping to avoid with a portable ultralight are demonstrated in this video ...
Basically, as I turn around while the SRF-M37W is attached to me, weak stations fade in and out, and nearby locals often splatter through.
I haven't checked the DT-800 enough to see if it exhibits that, but I suspect it may have that.

Anyway, I plan on keeping the DT-800 even if it may not quite have everything I wanted.

As for a larger radio (like a digital "super" superadio, I think I'll hold off on buying one for now. As I think I said earlier, I got too much stuff in general, and need to go through stuff, organize, get rid of some things, etc. (It's taking a while, due to having other life things going on as well.)

Another thing I've thought about getting is an SDR ... I used to think they were several thousand bucks or more, but I've seen a couple mentioned that were maybe a bit over $100-150 or so which seems a lot more reasonable. (I think I might hold off on that for a while too, though.)
Also if I could learn how to set up a longwire antenna, or a large loop, that could be used with my portable radios ... that's something I'd like to do sometime. Radio-Timetraveller (Bill) has a recent article about a loop-on-ground antenna that looks like it might be interesting to try, if I could figure out how to do some of the basic stuff. :) (It does say it's untuned / broadband, so I'd be a bit concerned about how much it would cause my radios to desense or splatter / overload with some of my strong local AMs, though....)
 
As for a larger radio (like a digital "super" superadio, I think I'll hold off on buying one for now. As I think I said earlier, I got too much stuff in general, and need to go through stuff, organize, get rid of some things, etc. (It's taking a while, due to having other life things going on as well.)

Another thing I've thought about getting is an SDR ... I used to think they were several thousand bucks or more, but I've seen a couple mentioned that were maybe a bit over $100-150 or so which seems a lot more reasonable. (I think I might hold off on that for a while too, though.)

Also if I could learn how to set up a longwire antenna, or a large loop, that could be used with my portable radios ... that's something I'd like to do sometime. Radio-Timetraveller (Bill) has a recent article about a loop-on-ground antenna that looks like it might be interesting to try, if I could figure out how to do some of the basic stuff. :) (It does say it's untuned / broadband, so I'd be a bit concerned about how much it would cause my radios to desense or splatter / overload with some of my strong local AMs, though....)
SDRs on MW could be dicier than getting a decent portable and having a good loop or other antenna. With SDRs there often is an RFI issue from the computer and the computer's power supply. Guys that are really into them swear by them, but they're stationary, and take a bit of set up to get working right. They're probably better for HF, or if you have a great outdoor antenna, but for MW I would think building a large loop would be a better alternative.

The easiest "big" loop I can think of would be the milk crate / plastic box crate loop. A plastic "milk crate" from a box store, 110 ft. of wire, some zip ties, alligator clips, and a 365 pf air cap tuner (I think you can get those online for reasonable prices) and you're set. I made one in 2011 and still use it. It boosts MW on my better radios by about 2-3 dB or so. My crate loop boosts signals maybe two S units or so louder than my SelectATenna or Eton AN200.
 
Any good recommendations for FM pocket radios which are good at eliminating splatter from strong stations? I don't want a metal antenna sticking out of the top, but prefer the headphones acting as an antenna. I also like rechargeable batteries, don't wanna spend over $75 or so.

I currently have one of these, which works pretty well. But no AM, also with weak stations there's a staticky effect which gets worse if the volume is louder on the transmitter. I had another radio without the staticky effect that was better with weak signals once, but can no longer find that one. Also the radio I have is not sold anymore, appears out of stock. AudioVox IHDP01A Portable HD/FM Radio Player with Belt Clip and Armband : Electronics
 
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