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WAPE Fugitive Promotion

J

JohnRadioFan

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On Saturday, a friend and I were at the St. John's Town Center and we were stopped 5 or 6 times by enthusiastic female listeners who asked if either of us were the Big Ape Fugitive. (No, I don't like anything like a big ape...lol)
As I don't generally listen to WAPE, I was curious about the contest. Once I got the details my first reaction was that this was a clever promotion.

But then we started to realize that it would have been pretty easy to walk around with some bogus microphone and a big yellow legal pad and act like we were the real deal. I'm sure at the thought of winning $20,000, many would have willingly provided their social security number, name, address etc.

Again, I don't know all the contest details but anything requiring people to talk to perfect strangers could be risky business. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by JohnRadioFan on 04/17/06 10:48 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Same as if I put out a dozen fake Jingle Bell Rocks with my phone number on them. There's a way for a perv to take advantage of any promotion.

Back in the 60's, if the lines were jammed enough, you could talk to (and pick up) fellow WAPE listeners by talking over the phone company's busy signal.



> On Saturday, a friend and I were at the St. John's Town
> Center and we were stopped 5 or 6 times by enthusiastic
> female listeners who asked if either of us were the Big Ape
> Fugitive. (No, I don't like anything like a big ape...lol)
> As I don't generally listen to WAPE, I was curious about the
> contest. Once I got the details my first reaction was that
> this was a clever promotion.
>
> But then we started to realize that it would have been
> pretty easy to walk around with some bogus microphone and a
> big yellow legal pad and act like we were the real deal.
> I'm sure at the thought of winning $20,000, many would have
> willingly provided their social security number, name,
> address etc.
>
> Again, I don't know all the contest details but anything
> requiring people to talk to perfect strangers could be risky
> business.
>
 
Re: WAPE's History

> Back in the 60's, if the lines were jammed enough, you could
> talk to (and pick up) fellow WAPE listeners by talking over
> the phone company's busy signal.

'60s ? WAPE ? WAPE existed back in the '60s ? Tell me more. How far back does WAPE's history go ? What were its various frequencies and formats over the years ?

THE MAJOR
 
Re: WAPE's History

> > Back in the 60's, if the lines were jammed enough, you
> could
> > talk to (and pick up) fellow WAPE listeners by talking
> over
> > the phone company's busy signal.
>
> '60s ? WAPE ? WAPE existed back in the '60s ? Tell me
> more. How far back does WAPE's history go ? What were its
> various frequencies and formats over the years ?
>
> THE MAJOR
>

Feel free to correct me on the specifics, y'all. I wasn't around for some of this!

WAPE-AM 690 existed from 1957 to 1989, when it changed hands and became WPDQ. It was Top 40 for all but a few years in the early 80's.

WAPE-FM 95.1 debuted in 86 after the former Rhythmic CHR WJAX-FM 95.1 was purchased from the City of Jacksonville.
 
Re: WAPE's History

> > '60s ? WAPE ? WAPE existed back in the '60s ? Tell me
> > more. How far back does WAPE's history go ? What were its
> > various frequencies and formats over the years ?

> Feel free to correct me on the specifics, y'all. I wasn't
> around for some of this!
> WAPE-AM 690 existed from 1957 to 1989, when it changed hands
> and became WPDQ. It was Top 40 for all but a few years in
> the early 80's.
> WAPE-FM 95.1 debuted in 86 after the former Rhythmic CHR
> WJAX-FM 95.1 was purchased from the City of Jacksonville.

1957 ? 1957 ! WOW ! I had no idea that WAPE's roots go back that far !

I could be wrong on this, but didn't WAPE-FM sign-on to 95.1 in 1988 ?

Did WAPE-FM & WAPE-AM ever simulcast the same programming for the same year or two that they both existed in the late-1980s ?

THE MAJOR
 
Re: WAPE's History

Before they got the standardized Cox web site they had a very cool one with the history of the station with appropriate tributes to the Greaseman. I have tried to see if I could locate it on The Internet WaybackMachine with out any luck perhaps you will have better luck go to http://www.archive.org/ <P ID="signature">______________
Ed
http://edfurbee.com
http://www.wioj.net</P>
 
The Big Ape

Here's a short unauthorized snapshot.

Gotta remember that "the lower on the AM dial, the more your power is worth." In the sixties and early seventies--when FM was basically a rumor and AM had 99 percent of the audience--having 50,000 watts at 690 KC (kilocycyles, back then) gave WAPE a huge signal by comparison with the 5-kw & 1-kw stations around them. Remember also that there were only a handful of AM stations on-air 40-to-50 years ago, so there was much less interference; and on "Canadian Clear" 690, the signal just kept on going... and going. Beyond that, the directional rig shot the signal up and down the Atlantic beaches from Cocoa to Cape Hatteras, so vacationers from all over the U.S. got to know "The Big Ape" while soaking up the sun--for a couple decades. (Sure, WOKV has the same signal today--it's just than nobody cares).

Radio geeks talk about various stations being "legendary;" but because so many people from all over the country heard APE on their beach vacations, it truly developed a national reputation.

And, yeah, they were real good. 690 dominated the Jax radio advertising market for so long--and with such margins--that they were able to produce major market radio in... well, Jacksonville has never been more than a medium market. (Football fans in Portland--radio market #24 & TV market #23--still don't understand why the NFL is in radio market #48 & TV market #52 instead of The Rose City).

The Grease (Doug Tracht) was a killer morning act at the Ape through the seventies, then went on to DC where he made a couple of unfortunate slips on the air. I've become acquainted with the guy--one of the nicest and most creative people in radio. I have no idea why an enterprising broadcaster doesn't bring him back to Jax and just rack up the numbers. He is still better than any air talent currently on the air in Jacksonville.

Back to APE history. The AM pulled its last double-digit share in 1978 ('79 was the year when the percentage of FM listening edged past AM listening)... slipped into the mid-single digits over the next few years... and re-emerged on FM in 1986, debuting with a cool 18 share.

So, if one considers today's CHR/pop format to be the rightful heir to the historic Top 40 format--and most of us do, if reluctantly--WAPE is one of the few radio entities to have made the shift from AM to FM (with a few glitches in the early eighties, if memory serves correct). Theoretically, at least, WAPE could/should next year be celebrating 50 years as Jacksonville's Hit Music Station--from 1957 to 2007.

Those with better memories, please provide corrections and/or clarification.
 
Re: The Big Ape

> Here's a short unauthorized snapshot.
>
> Gotta remember that "the lower on the AM dial, the more your
> power is worth." In the sixties and early seventies--when FM
> was basically a rumor and AM had 99 percent of the
> audience--having 50,000 watts at 690 KC (kilocycyles, back
> then) gave WAPE a huge signal by comparison with the 5-kw &
> 1-kw stations around them. Remember also that there were
> only a handful of AM stations on-air 40-to-50 years ago, so
> there was much less interference; and on "Canadian Clear"
> 690, the signal just kept on going... and going. Beyond
> that, the directional rig shot the signal up and down the
> Atlantic beaches from Cocoa to Cape Hatteras, so vacationers
> from all over the U.S. got to know "The Big Ape" while
> soaking up the sun--for a couple decades. (Sure, WOKV has
> the same signal today--it's just than nobody cares).
>
> Radio geeks talk about various stations being "legendary;"
> but because so many people from all over the country heard
> APE on their beach vacations, it truly developed a national
> reputation.
>
> And, yeah, they were real good. 690 dominated the Jax radio
> advertising market for so long--and with such margins--that
> they were able to produce major market radio in... well,
> Jacksonville has never been more than a medium market.
> (Football fans in Portland--radio market #24 & TV market
> #23--still don't understand why the NFL is in radio market
> #48 & TV market #52 instead of The Rose City).
>
> The Grease (Doug Tracht) was a killer morning act at the Ape
> through the seventies, then went on to DC where he made a
> couple of unfortunate slips on the air. I've become
> acquainted with the guy--one of the nicest and most creative
> people in radio. I have no idea why an enterprising
> broadcaster doesn't bring him back to Jax and just rack up
> the numbers. He is still better than any air talent
> currently on the air in Jacksonville.
>
> Back to APE history. The AM pulled its last double-digit
> share in 1978 ('79 was the year when the percentage of FM
> listening edged past AM listening)... slipped into the
> mid-single digits over the next few years... and re-emerged
> on FM in 1986, debuting with a cool 18 share.
>
> So, if one considers today's CHR/pop format to be the
> rightful heir to the historic Top 40 format--and most of us
> do, if reluctantly--WAPE is one of the few radio entities to
> have made the shift from AM to FM (with a few glitches in
> the early eighties, if memory serves correct).
> Theoretically, at least, WAPE could/should next year be
> celebrating 50 years as Jacksonville's Hit Music
> Station--from 1957 to 2007.
>
> Those with better memories, please provide corrections
> and/or clarification.

WOW ! That was pretty good. THANKS for posting that !

I'm down here en Miami but I visit the Jacksonville area several times a year because I have family there. I also drove through the area along I-95 several times a year from 1987 to 1996 when my family lived up in the D.C. area. I've always listened to 'The Big Ape' while I'm up there (although I admit that I've also checked out 'KISS-FM' since it flipped over to CHR-POP).

Aqui en Miami WHYI Y-100(.7) is recognized as (are you ready for this ?) the longest-running continuous CHR-POP station in North America. They've kept the same general hit music format going for 33 years now (since 1973). It seems to me that if whatever happened during the early-1980s with WAPE didn't happen then they would be able to stake some type of longevity claim to the North American CHR-POP / TOP 40 throne. So I ask - What exactly did WAPE do for a few years during the early-1980s ? Did they radically flip their format or what ? What type of music (if any) did they play during their 'glitch' years ?

One more thing about 'The Big Ape'. Back during the late-1980s and deep into the 1990s they had one powerful blowtorch of a signal. If atmospheric conditions were just right their signal penetrated as far south as Alligator Alley (I-75) through The Everglades ! They redirected their signal later in the 1990s so that it's not as powerful southward as it used to be. 95.1 out of Melbourne was also created, so perhaps that was the reason for doing that.

THE MAJOR
 
Re: The Big Ape

One spring day in 1993 when atmospheric conditions were just right, I picked up WAPE in the parking lot of the University of West Florida in Pensacola! My radio tuner skipped 94.9, WKSJ out of Mobile, but locked in on 95.1. I listened for a few minutes and heard them ID!

> One more thing about 'The Big Ape'. Back during the
> late-1980s and deep into the 1990s they had one powerful
> blowtorch of a signal. If atmospheric conditions were just
> right their signal penetrated as far south as Alligator
> Alley (I-75) through The Everglades ! They redirected their
> signal later in the 1990s so that it's not as powerful
> southward as it used to be. 95.1 out of Melbourne was also
> created, so perhaps that was the reason for doing that.
 
Re: The Big Ape

> > Here's a short unauthorized snapshot.
> >
> > Gotta remember that "the lower on the AM dial, the more
> your
> > power is worth." In the sixties and early seventies--when
> FM
> > was basically a rumor and AM had 99 percent of the
> > audience--having 50,000 watts at 690 KC (kilocycyles, back
>
> > then) gave WAPE a huge signal by comparison with the 5-kw
> &
> > 1-kw stations around them. Remember also that there were
> > only a handful of AM stations on-air 40-to-50 years ago,
> so
> > there was much less interference; and on "Canadian Clear"
> > 690, the signal just kept on going... and going. Beyond
> > that, the directional rig shot the signal up and down the
> > Atlantic beaches from Cocoa to Cape Hatteras, so
> vacationers
> > from all over the U.S. got to know "The Big Ape" while
> > soaking up the sun--for a couple decades. (Sure, WOKV has
> > the same signal today--it's just than nobody cares).
> >
> > Radio geeks talk about various stations being "legendary;"
>
> > but because so many people from all over the country heard
>
> > APE on their beach vacations, it truly developed a
> national
> > reputation.
> >
> > And, yeah, they were real good. 690 dominated the Jax
> radio
> > advertising market for so long--and with such
> margins--that
> > they were able to produce major market radio in... well,
> > Jacksonville has never been more than a medium market.
> > (Football fans in Portland--radio market #24 & TV market
> > #23--still don't understand why the NFL is in radio market
>
> > #48 & TV market #52 instead of The Rose City).
> >
> > The Grease (Doug Tracht) was a killer morning act at the
> Ape
> > through the seventies, then went on to DC where he made a
> > couple of unfortunate slips on the air. I've become
> > acquainted with the guy--one of the nicest and most
> creative
> > people in radio. I have no idea why an enterprising
> > broadcaster doesn't bring him back to Jax and just rack up
>
> > the numbers. He is still better than any air talent
> > currently on the air in Jacksonville.
> >
> > Back to APE history. The AM pulled its last double-digit
> > share in 1978 ('79 was the year when the percentage of FM
> > listening edged past AM listening)... slipped into the
> > mid-single digits over the next few years... and
> re-emerged
> > on FM in 1986, debuting with a cool 18 share.
> >
> > So, if one considers today's CHR/pop format to be the
> > rightful heir to the historic Top 40 format--and most of
> us
> > do, if reluctantly--WAPE is one of the few radio entities
> to
> > have made the shift from AM to FM (with a few glitches in
> > the early eighties, if memory serves correct).
> > Theoretically, at least, WAPE could/should next year be
> > celebrating 50 years as Jacksonville's Hit Music
> > Station--from 1957 to 2007.
> >
> > Those with better memories, please provide corrections
> > and/or clarification.
>
> WOW ! That was pretty good. THANKS for posting that !
>
> I'm down here en Miami but I visit the Jacksonville area
> several times a year because I have family there. I also
> drove through the area along I-95 several times a year from
> 1987 to 1996 when my family lived up in the D.C. area. I've
> always listened to 'The Big Ape' while I'm up there
> (although I admit that I've also checked out 'KISS-FM' since
> it flipped over to CHR-POP).
>
> Aqui en Miami WHYI Y-100(.7) is recognized as (are you ready
> for this ?) the longest-running continuous CHR-POP station
> in North America. They've kept the same general hit music
> format going for 33 years now (since 1973). It seems to me
> that if whatever happened during the early-1980s with WAPE
> didn't happen then they would be able to stake some type of
> longevity claim to the North American CHR-POP / TOP 40
> throne. So I ask - What exactly did WAPE do for a few years
> during the early-1980s ? Did they radically flip their
> format or what ? What type of music (if any) did they play
> during their 'glitch' years ?
>
> One more thing about 'The Big Ape'. Back during the
> late-1980s and deep into the 1990s they had one powerful
> blowtorch of a signal. If atmospheric conditions were just
> right their signal penetrated as far south as Alligator
> Alley (I-75) through The Everglades ! They redirected their
> signal later in the 1990s so that it's not as powerful
> southward as it used to be. 95.1 out of Melbourne was also
> created, so perhaps that was the reason for doing that.
>
> THE MAJOR
>
Wape 690 for a while went country and the a religious programing for a while.
 
BRice16 said:
Even today you can pick it up nearly to the I-75/I-10 junction just south of the Georgia line.

I picked it up (FM) on I-75 from the I-10 exit all the way into Gainesville. When it was AM, I listened at night in Gainesville.

Also, on a clear, cold day a couple of years ago, I picked up Sunny 98.5 (Panama City) in Lake City, overriding KTK's signal.
 
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