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WARM - True Oldies?

J

John1

I was on vacation in the Poconos a couple weeks back and had a chance to listen to WARM several hours a day. I remember listening to the True Oldies Channel over WREF in Connecticut (streaming) months ago and heard a lot of '50's & early '60's songs and some obscure songs. Listening to WARM recently it sounded pretty much like a typical mainstream satellite oldies service like "The Oldies Channel" - lots of late '60's, early '70's hits, a lot of 'classic hits' like the Stones, Beatles, etc. but no '50's and few early '60's songs.

I assumed 'True Oldies' was one feed nationally - have they gone to a more 'mainstream' oldies format now that they are on in Chicago? Anyone listening to WARM and hearing older songs?
 
Well, my NY teams are all out of the playoffs, the Jets suck and I have liitle interest at the moment in sports, so for about a week I traveled to work and back each day and listened only to the "True Oldies" station - WARM.... everything about this station reeks of what a cardboard satellite station represents! Liners that outright overstate and lie... "The Best News" is on WARM... excuse me!!! "The Heart and Soul of Rock & Roll"..."Broadcasting from the Mother-Ship"... give me a break... seemingly one personality all day (THIS IS SHANNON... like that means something!) who maybe has one bit every 45 minutes straight off some wire. You wan't true oldies.. this station isn't heavy on the 50's.. it's mostly 60's and early 70's... song, liner, song, jingle, song, song, liner/jingle.. then 8 commercials in a row. Before you can be a "True Oldies Station" you have to be a True Radio Station... something it is not.
 
True oldies originates from new york city(scott shannon co hosts a show on wplj there).I'm hearing about one or two 50's early 60's an hour.
 
Well, my NY teams are all out of the playoffs,

Last Monday night I was beat so I went to bed at 11:15PM just as the Yankees/Indians game was wrapping up. I thought I'd put on WARM to hear the end of the Yankee game and to hear the reaction of the New York announcers John Sterling and Susan Waldman. The game ended and Sterling gave his signature game ender when the Yanks lose and then went to commercial. 14 of them in a row. Every PSA you could ever hear in one sitting. At one point I grabbed the phone and tried calling the control room. Just as it was ringing, Sterling came back on the air, was doing a recap and then I heard Santana cutting in. They just dumped out of the program. It was midnight and the cheapskates at 600 Baltimore Drive most likely didn't want to pay the board op one minute more. You don't treat broadcasting like that. There are listeners. I wanted to hear the Yankee radio wrap up but it was not to be.
That bearded wonder who thinks he's saving WARM with his one page website most likely doesn't even listen to his wretched station. You can argue whether you want Shannon all day all the time, you can complain about the signal, I try to compensate for that because I love the oldies, you can argue about how many 50s songs there are in a rotation but for crying out loud, get the basics down that any green 19 year old radio head would take pride in. When you can't even allign yourself correctly with one of the best baseball products in the world on a day that they lose and get out of the playofffs, it's time to just shut the lights out and not give a sh**!!!! Oh sorry, you're already there.

Yonkstur

P.S. I e mailed a contact of mine in the Yankees front office on Tuesday morning to tell her what a dreadful job their (and I use the word generously) affiliate did on the last game of the season. By the way, GO TRIBE!
 
I'm not trying to school anyone... but but one drop in an hour.. one small bit does not make a personality! If you told Mr Shannon at the height of his career that all he could do was a one minute piece every 45 minutes he'd kiss that station goodbye.. what good is having a name personality that does liners 90% of the time? There's no direction at this station.. what would have happened if the game went extra innings and the op had to leave at midnight? This station is like a broken tail light on an expensive car.. just a minor inconvenience.
 
There's no direction at this station

True, their claim to fame is that they are playing oldies on the AM because no one else is. And after 92.1FM left the Oldies format, they "saved" the Oldies lovers by providing this format. It's on their website, a justification for their being. They didn't count on Ben Smith, (not the karate guy but the one who married the hottie from Dushore-last I looked there were nothing but hotties in Dushore) doing multiple frequencies on the FM and using the brilliant line: "Your favorite oldies static free" or something to that effect. TRue Oldies is cheap, we loved it when it came on and they didn't switch it after 4 months but finally came to the realization that we can stick a CD we made ourselves in the car and do our own dropins and bits if we were so inclined!

Yonkstur
 
yonkstur said:
That bearded wonder who thinks he's saving WARM with his one page website most likely doesn't even listen to his wretched station.
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Hey, Mr. Radio Expert. Why don't YOU try to run a station with ZERO programming and ZERO promotions budget? What's the matter...did Citadel fire you some time ago?
 
You forgot to add something.... ZERO passion for your product! I put in my time.. worked the boards, did the graveyard shift, worked my way up and finally programmed my own station with less than you have now. You don't do this because you love radio... you're in it for the same reasons all the corporations are ... money. If you loved your product, you would have worked the board the night the Yankee broadcast got yanked. But as it is, it all comes down to money... you have none? I think you really mean you have no faith in your product and won't take the time or spend the money to make it better. What AM broadcaster in this area can say they were rolling in the money when they had their station to run. It takes hard work, a passion for radio, and pride in the product you present.. all of which you lack.
 
You have got it all wrong.K2PG is no corporate shill. He does have a passion for radio. Being the PD is not his primary job. He has a very demanding job as engineer for Citadel.He does what he can for WARM with no budget, or staff . Its a one man operation and that one man is on call 24/7 He has big ideas for True Oldies. He just needs corporate support. I don't work for Citadel but Ive known Phil for a long time. You may not be aware that he took on the job as PD as a volunteer
 
So I ask this question.. why do you,think the corporation will ever spend any money on a product where they can get a 'volunteer" to run the station and canned jocks. K2PG is then doing an admirable job but he's enabling management to spend no money on their product.
 
Is this the same Phil Boyce that pd's for wabc am in new york city?
 
ceaser said:
Is this the same Phil Boyce that pd's for wabc am in new york city?
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The one at WARM is Phil Gallasso. I wish him well but the 24/7 ego of Scott Shannon drives me nuts...I would rather have local music 60's, 70's and 80's (with VT'ing if necessary..) along with the jingles and fluff.
 
The Thing Is That The Powers That Be At Citadel Have No Idea What WARM Meant To This Area.

To Them It's A Sick Old Transmitter That Soon May Be Shut Down For Good. I wonder If They'd Sell It

To Somebody Local That Had The Money To Pour Into It? (Keep Buying The Powerball tix Yonk!)
 
NEPA_radiobored said:
ceaser said:
Is this the same Phil Boyce that pd's for wabc am in new york city?
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The one at WARM is Phil Gallasso. I wish him well but the 24/7 ego of Scott Shannon drives me nuts...I would rather have local music 60's, 70's and 80's (with VT'ing if necessary..) along with the jingles and fluff.
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Gallasso is the chief engineer for Citadel. He's only the WARM PD because nobody there cares.
 
If He has his way,things will change. He is an believer in live and local radio.
He has a lot of ideas and hopes for some technical improvements.
He knows WARM from its hey day.
 
Yonk, do you still have room in your kitchen for the Warm studios- I just checked and the planets are aligned in my favor and I feel a lotto win is inevitable.....I'll go to Lowe's and get us one of them do it yourself sheds that we can put whats left of the transmitter in...

Ok while I'm here, I'd like to take this opportunity to continue to beat this dead horse ???

What if somebody bought WARM, fixed up the physical plant, and got some talented, tight, shotgun delivery jocks that really know oldies....How would the First song and jingle go...yeah we are talking heavy reverb, of course....

I vote for: (girl's chorus:) THE OLD" WONDERFUL W-A-R-M," FOLLOWED BY SOMETHING KICK-*SS LIKE Del Shannon's Runaway.....

or:
Jingle:" W-A-R-M, THE MIGHTY 590,NORTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA'S OLDIES AUTHORITY.".FOLLOWED BY THREE DOG'S NIGHT'S "ONE MAN BAND"


MAN I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS ;D
warm590 ;D ???
 
Way to go,WARM 590. Gotta win that lottery. Good luck to you :)
 
How would the First song and jingle go...yeah we are talking heavy reverb, of course....
I vote for: (girl's chorus:) THE OLD" WONDERFUL W-A-R-M,"

My first song would either be "Come Go With Me" by the Del Wikings or "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds.

Yonkstur
 
Hey, Mr. Radio Expert. Why don't YOU try to run a station with ZERO programming and ZERO promotions budget? What's the matter...did Citadel fire you some time ago?

Give me the opportunity to run WARM with zero money and zero promotions and truth be told, I'd kick ass. I never brag about anything, wasn't brought up this way but I would galvanize the passion people feel for WARM and blow the local market away. And it won't have anything to do with me, it would have to do with the belief radio heads have in the memory of what it was and the potential of what it could be.
And I was fired from the big C on April 27th, 2000, the day before Imus came to town and then left in a huff. I was the 68th sales rep to be fired in 14 months. I have the shirt to prove it, it was one of the best days of my life in the way that I exited and I still keep in touch with a few of the survivors. And as a Disney stock holder, I guess that makes me a quasi stockholder of the Big C.
Tell Larry Wilson, Stu Stanick or whoever is still in charge to give me a ring. I'm in the book.

Yonkstur
 
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