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was it special and magical, or just bidness.

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MsMusicRadio

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60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. All these stations are something else now only living on as WCBS or KRTH. So many greats have passed on. I always thought that great jocks just don't die. They are way too cool. I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. All these stations are something else now only living on as WCBS or KRTH. So many greats have passed on. I always thought that great jocks just don't die. They are way too cool. I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.

60s Top 40 lives on for me as I have many airchecks from most of the great stations in lots of cities.
I listen to them often.
The only two originals that are still on the air are Dick Biondi & Cousin Brucie and you have to pay to hear Bruce.
 
You may have already said this, but did you work in Top 40 radio?
 
radioman148 said:
MsMusicRadio said:
You may have already said this, but did you work in Top 40 radio?

No I did not. Just always loved it.

SAME HERE EXCEPT FOR DOING PUBLIC RELATIONS ON AIR FOR THE GUMMINT
 
MsMusicRadio said:
60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. All these stations are something else now only living on as WCBS or KRTH. So many greats have passed on. I always thought that great jocks just don't die. They are way too cool. I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.

Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine. You may recall the scene from American Graffiti in which the love sick boy decided, in an act of final desperation over the girl in the T-Bird, that the ultimate solution to the entire situation was to pay Wolfman Jack a visit. It was really that way in many cities, although it was not an act of desperation to solve the love sick blues; rather, it was on the way back from the dime store where you had just purchased a three pack of 45s for 69 cents and wanted to show off for the jocks. They loved their work and had a darned good time on the air.

The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988. It got progressively worse through 1989 until the streets and homes were full of trash, raw sewage and toxicity, although not all people in radio went with it, as they do not to this day. Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work, did not see it coming, were blindsided by the new trend of the colleague cutting their throats and either adjusted so that they could continue on with the work they love or were run out by any number of methods, but never abandoning the high standard to which they held themselves. In short, people with backbones who figured it out and refused to stand for it. There is the occasional garbage top 40 oldies station that has a slick operator from the new school, but these days they don't last but a few years. It usually runs its course by no more than seven years, when somebody comes along who quietly and discreetly makes them go away, but by then the damage is done and it's too late; so the gutter snipes go away, and then the stations go away.

As recently as a few years ago we had a disc jockey, about my age, who still traded music with listeners. Part of the magic was that a few people realized that he just did not have the collection of music that he needed, as he was in from a larger market, but was on his own pretty much. He needed music either on CD or records, so that he could work in his basement to put everything on mini discs. Everyone stopped by with their collections on loaner, myself included, so that he could build his library. I loaned him all at once 135 compact discs, 180 45 rpms and several albums. When I got my music back several months later I was missing a few 45s, but other 45s took their place. There was a time when such occurrences were welcomed as happy surprises. I got a few Cadillacs, some Excellents - you know 3 for 69 cents stuff. In addition, each of us who had contributed to the library received a customized radio station cassette tape for ourselves from the disc jockey. He and his wife were the kind of people who would see you out for a bite at the diner with friends and invite everyone over to dine with them, or we would invite them over our way if we had the bigger booth. We usually had to accommodate the life sized doll that came with his little girl. He is somewhere on the AM band now, semi-retired.

So, to answer your question, yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.

Never fear, it is a magical kingdom as long as we continue to make it one and do our part to sweep out the occasional horse&*%# that slips in every ten or twelve years.
 
i worked a top 40 station 30 miles north of nashville from late 1970 until 1976..although just a 1000 watt daytimer, we consistantly showed in the top five in nashville..at times on weekends number 2...we didn't realize that could have meant dollars..as we were selling 30 second spots for 2.50, 60's were 3.00..and we were billing around 20 grand a month in just local sales. as for the fun side..yea..in major amounts..weekends plenty of girls stopped by, lots of beer and licker..i mean liquer...and live remotes in a van where we actually played the records on site were just an all day party..yet at no time did we lose fact that a professional sound was what we put forth..on mike we were dead serious about our sound and presentation..off mike..read above lol...and hell yes i miss it...
 
>>Never fear, it is a magical kingdom as long as we continue to make it one and do our part to sweep out the occasional horse&*%# that slips in every ten or twelve years. >>

Well said Silkie.
 
radioman148 said:
>>Never fear, it is a magical kingdom as long as we continue to make it one and do our part to sweep out the occasional horse&*%# that slips in every ten or twelve years. >>

Well said Silkie.

Thank you, Radioman148
 
Silkie said:
Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine ... The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988 ...Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work ... yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.
This was a wonderful story, Silkie – you have such a way with words.

Never fear, the “magical kingdom” will never disappear, we may only have to search a little harder to find it.
 
GridLeakBias said:
Silkie said:
Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine ... The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988 ...Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work ... yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.
This was a wonderful story, Silkie – you have such a way with words.

Never fear, the “magical kingdom” will never disappear, we may only have to search a little harder to find it.

Like I say just pull out the old tapes.
 
GridLeakBias said:
Silkie said:
Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine ... The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988 ...Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work ... yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.
This was a wonderful story, Silkie – you have such a way with words.

Never fear, the “magical kingdom” will never disappear, we may only have to search a little harder to find it.

Thank you, GridLeakBias. True story, though. I have added to my collection over the past seven or eight years since loaning out music. When I say that I own everything I ever requested, I really do! And then some! LOL
 
Silkie said:
GridLeakBias said:
Silkie said:
Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine ... The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988 ...Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work ... yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.
This was a wonderful story, Silkie – you have such a way with words.

Never fear, the “magical kingdom” will never disappear, we may only have to search a little harder to find it.

Thank you, GridLeakBias. True story, though. I have added to my collection over the past seven or eight years since loaning out music. When I say that I own everything I ever requested, I really do! And then some! LOL
I have a large collection of music myself, on platters and CDs, which I have loaned out over the years. All in all, I have only lost one 33rpm album which I loaned to a friend in the Army, then I shipped out and I didn't recover it. It was a Floyd Cramer album with "Last Date" ... one of my favorites, but I've since replaced it with a CD.

Since that time, I continue to share my music, but only with copies - no original recordings. And Silkie, if there is a hard to find tune you need, let me know. If I have it, you got a deal. If I don't have it, I'll help you find it.

Regards.
GLB
 
GridLeakBias said:
Silkie said:
GridLeakBias said:
Silkie said:
Once upon a time it was like a magical kingdom with lots of sparkle and shine ... The transition to trash in the gutter radio began slowly, probably around the summer of 1988 ...Some jocks who worked in it simply loved their work ... yes, there was a time when top 40 60s and 70s radio was a magical kingdom. Those who managed to hang on because of their love of their work - sometimes making it through by the kindness of a stranger - continue to make it magical in spite of the tremendous obstacles that are thrown in their paths.
This was a wonderful story, Silkie – you have such a way with words.

Never fear, the “magical kingdom” will never disappear, we may only have to search a little harder to find it.

Thank you, GridLeakBias. True story, though. I have added to my collection over the past seven or eight years since loaning out music. When I say that I own everything I ever requested, I really do! And then some! LOL
I have a large collection of music myself, on platters and CDs, which I have loaned out over the years. All in all, I have only lost one 33rpm album which I loaned to a friend in the Army, then I shipped out and I didn't recover it. It was a Floyd Cramer album with "Last Date" ... one of my favorites, but I've since replaced it with a CD.

Since that time, I continue to share my music, but only with copies - no original recordings. And Silkie, if there is a hard to find tune you need, let me know. If I have it, you got a deal. If I don't have it, I'll help you find it.

Regards.
GLB

I just happen to have that Floyd Cramer album. Not too crackly either. Good stuff!
 
GLB...I've been hunting for a stereo version of San Remo Strings "Hungry For Love"
 
amfmsw said:
GLB...I've been hunting for a stereo version of San Remo Strings "Hungry For Love"
I wish I could help you, but I don't have it.

"Hungry For Love", San Remo Golden Strings, issued in 1965 on Ric Tic 104 (7" vinyl). (I believe this to be a mono version.) I recently saw a rare stereo copy, Ric Tic 901, in SS condition listed at $50.00. That's a little more than I would be willing to pay. I can point you to copies of Ric Tic 104 if you're interested, Ex condition, listing around 9 - 10 dollars + shipping.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. <snip> I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.

Much as the first generation of radio built a culture so did the radio generation of the 50's and 60's. It wasn't just the music, it was the personalities, the big booming sounds of those 50KW clear channel stations and the local Top-40 outlets as well. It created culture in dress, language, communication, dance and it tied teens and young adults together before there were internet social sites and mobile phones. It spawned a revolution, of sorts, on the new TV medium and showed musicians and performances as never before. The creativity of those times is still being felt some 50 years later....and those songs are still being played. The music of the 50's broke all manner of custom and lead directly to expressions, not only in music, but in all of American (and some would argue, worldwide) culture. That music created sub-cultures like surf, folk-rock, rockabilly, teen angst, and went on to become protest rock which altered the course of the Vietnam War and politics in general.

No, MsMusicRadio, it wasn't "just showbiz".
 
landtuna said:
MsMusicRadio said:
60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. <snip> I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.

Much as the first generation of radio built a culture so did the radio generation of the 50's and 60's. It wasn't just the music, it was the personalities, the big booming sounds of those 50KW clear channel stations and the local Top-40 outlets as well. It created culture in dress, language, communication, dance and it tied teens and young adults together before there were internet social sites and mobile phones. It spawned a revolution, of sorts, on the new TV medium and showed musicians and performances as never before. The creativity of those times is still being felt some 50 years later....and those songs are still being played. The music of the 50's broke all manner of custom and lead directly to expressions, not only in music, but in all of American (and some would argue, worldwide) culture. That music created sub-cultures like surf, folk-rock, rockabilly, teen angst, and went on to become protest rock which altered the course of the Vietnam War and politics in general.

No, MsMusicRadio, it wasn't "just showbiz".
Well spoken! Just about sums it up.
 
GridLeakBias said:
landtuna said:
MsMusicRadio said:
60's Top 40 radio seems like a magic kingdom from a lost era.The storied calls give me goosebumps. The names of the stations, personalities, and even ownership groups glitter looking back. <snip> I wonder if MTV holds the same memories for GenX? If Twitter will be a nostalgia trip in 40 years? ( in 4 years?). I hate to think that to some it was just bidness , but I guess it was just showbiz as it is today.

Much as the first generation of radio built a culture so did the radio generation of the 50's and 60's. It wasn't just the music, it was the personalities, the big booming sounds of those 50KW clear channel stations and the local Top-40 outlets as well. It created culture in dress, language, communication, dance and it tied teens and young adults together before there were internet social sites and mobile phones. It spawned a revolution, of sorts, on the new TV medium and showed musicians and performances as never before. The creativity of those times is still being felt some 50 years later....and those songs are still being played. The music of the 50's broke all manner of custom and lead directly to expressions, not only in music, but in all of American (and some would argue, worldwide) culture. That music created sub-cultures like surf, folk-rock, rockabilly, teen angst, and went on to become protest rock which altered the course of the Vietnam War and politics in general.

No, MsMusicRadio, it wasn't "just showbiz".
Well spoken! Just about sums it up.

Sure enough; and it was not about grubbing money from sponsors, real or contrived, apart from one's paycheck either - except for maybe those nasty little payola days.
 
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