I think daag newsman is hip cool radio speak for daag nammit. Just a thought.
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WASK is no Jack!!!
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Lafayette Unplugged [quote Why does everyone think I work for WASK? [/quote] prolly cause you used to daag newsman.
If it looks like a duck :
, walks like a duck ;D, quacks like a duck , It must be a WASK employee!!!!!
If it looks like a duck :
, walks like a duck ;D, quacks like a duck , It must be a WASK employee!!!!!
I hear ya, Boilermaker.
I even turned off my "unwarranted undecipheralbe random misguided comments" filter and I STILL can't make heads or tails of Bonehead Coo Coo and MC Leak House Plant.
I'd better be safe and change my name from "Lafayette Unplugged" to
"Never Been an Employee of Schurz and Never Will Be" so certain folks can start to understand my posts and get a clue.
Just a thought.
People helpin' (stupid) people? ???
I even turned off my "unwarranted undecipheralbe random misguided comments" filter and I STILL can't make heads or tails of Bonehead Coo Coo and MC Leak House Plant.
I'd better be safe and change my name from "Lafayette Unplugged" to
"Never Been an Employee of Schurz and Never Will Be" so certain folks can start to understand my posts and get a clue.
Just a thought.
People helpin' (stupid) people? ???
Ur-A-Dawg said:
Don't plead for us to stop quarrelling like kids and then drop your own hate bomb like that, bro.
I'd respect you more if you just said, "Cut it out" and then got out.
Who's DS? Name-dropping or trying to "out" someone on here ain't so cool, either.
Especially if you're missing the mark and it's not even the person you think it is, right?
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tjthedj
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Unplugged, And YOU said to me that "I'M everything you hate about radio." Looks like you'll have to expand your hate a bit!
I just love watching this.
I just love watching this.
tjthedj said:
Yeah, you love watching but somehow can't keep from COMMENTING either, right?
I'm not sure what the heck you are blathering about with this last one.
I'm not going to take the bait. Last time I called you out about your sad psychotic delusions of grandeur (and another one of your laundry lists about how great and influtential you USED to be in radio circles) they put the padlock on the discussion.
I'm looking for some sort of factual basis in what I write rather than take the road you do (and some of your buddies, relatives, or whatever) and spew something smug and consider it a thoughtful post.
Stupidity like "Hey! You work at WASK!" or "Hey! Everyone hates you! Hee hee!" is, at best, third grade passive aggressive behavior. And doesn't really inform anyone about anything and (continues) to make you look childish and self-serving.
:-*
The guy who started this thread must now be convinced that the research is right. That is the research that says our state is number 49 when it comes to education. Go ahead. You
win. Play the bubblegum, but call it classic hits.
I have some more titles to suggest-Super hits! Goodie Goodie Gumdrops, Chewy Chewy,
Dizzy, Yummy Yummy Yummy, Jam Up And Jelly Tight, Puppy Love, and Just Like A Yo Yo.
win. Play the bubblegum, but call it classic hits.
I have some more titles to suggest-Super hits! Goodie Goodie Gumdrops, Chewy Chewy,
Dizzy, Yummy Yummy Yummy, Jam Up And Jelly Tight, Puppy Love, and Just Like A Yo Yo.
I'm going to give up on this one.
All I wanted was FACTS that point to a song being deemed "unplayable" or FACTS that say a certain demo doesn't listen to oldies anymore. I didn't get any answers, so I'll consider my question unanswered and move on. No biggie. Sorry it disolved into "You're a dummy", "No, YOU are" once again.
I'll leave it out there for anyone: check out the many titles that have been tossed around on this jag and let me know some HARD FACTS that say radio shouldn't play them anymore. I still think it's a random decision based on what the PD is in the mood to play. "Nobody likes that song anymore" is a cop out and just a way of saying "I don't like that song anymore and don't want it on my station no matter if the listener wants it or DOES NOT want it". Another BIG BIG BIG failing of radio the last few years: Injecting as much of your personal taste as you can at the expense of the listener.
TYPICAL RADIO OWNER: "Why is listenership dropping? Why are people splitting their regular radio listening with iPods, internet streaming, and satellite?"
Also, prove to me that the Arbitron numbers I have in front of me are wrong that Women 50+ (in THIS market, anyway) don't like oldies anymore. THE NUMBERS (again, in THIS market) say Women 50+ do like Super Hits/Classic Hits/Bubblegum from the 60's and 70's like the ones that have been listed here.
I mean, "We get 50 requests everyday to stop playing that song" would even be a step in the right direction.
Plenty of folks on here know the FCC handbook like the back of their hand, share great stories about pirate radio, and can quote tower height regulations from memory, but apparently they can't get a grasp on subject matter like music and fail to make an informed comment about it (and I'm not talking about "Hey! I've been a jock and a PD in radio 25 years and worked for 50 different stations". That doesn't answer anything ever).
All I wanted was FACTS that point to a song being deemed "unplayable" or FACTS that say a certain demo doesn't listen to oldies anymore. I didn't get any answers, so I'll consider my question unanswered and move on. No biggie. Sorry it disolved into "You're a dummy", "No, YOU are" once again.
I'll leave it out there for anyone: check out the many titles that have been tossed around on this jag and let me know some HARD FACTS that say radio shouldn't play them anymore. I still think it's a random decision based on what the PD is in the mood to play. "Nobody likes that song anymore" is a cop out and just a way of saying "I don't like that song anymore and don't want it on my station no matter if the listener wants it or DOES NOT want it". Another BIG BIG BIG failing of radio the last few years: Injecting as much of your personal taste as you can at the expense of the listener.
TYPICAL RADIO OWNER: "Why is listenership dropping? Why are people splitting their regular radio listening with iPods, internet streaming, and satellite?"
Also, prove to me that the Arbitron numbers I have in front of me are wrong that Women 50+ (in THIS market, anyway) don't like oldies anymore. THE NUMBERS (again, in THIS market) say Women 50+ do like Super Hits/Classic Hits/Bubblegum from the 60's and 70's like the ones that have been listed here.
I mean, "We get 50 requests everyday to stop playing that song" would even be a step in the right direction.
Plenty of folks on here know the FCC handbook like the back of their hand, share great stories about pirate radio, and can quote tower height regulations from memory, but apparently they can't get a grasp on subject matter like music and fail to make an informed comment about it (and I'm not talking about "Hey! I've been a jock and a PD in radio 25 years and worked for 50 different stations". That doesn't answer anything ever).
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tjthedj
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Pluggy old pal,
What, "many titles?" Sugar, Sugar is all I heard.
There you sit, with no place to go, and a low-rent radio job in a dead end industry, BUT long and loud opinions in the land of wannabe!
Fcc stuff is very available. On the other hand, music research is much more proprietary and is often ILLEGAL to share. You can't find it on the internet, like you can find every fcc detail.
It's really amusing that you say that you want facts, and I actually have the facts right here in my computer, right now (we bought over a thousand 1954-1985 songs worth of "Midwest" auditorium music research). I'm pointing to Sugar, Sugar. Too bad you can't read it.
But, you don't believe anything I told you, anyway. You say I "have sad psychotic delusions of grandeur" and all that "whore" stuff about the trades that I was quite successful with, and specific about, and, by the way, I NEVER said "used to be."
NOTE; Everything I told you is 100% TRUE, and the people you named in a prior post ALL know (even Bob Rohrman knows). Just because YOU seem to attract people that want to kvetch and spit at YOU (some not even smart enough to use good English). Not all of us are in that situation.
O, and I'm "everything you hate about radio" too.
You, in fact lots of your generation, could stand a lesson about the "value of what a friend can do." What a spoiled, cranky bunch you are.
You need to shut off the computer and watch the Godfather, or maybe a Barney video would be more your intellectual capacity.
What, "many titles?" Sugar, Sugar is all I heard.
There you sit, with no place to go, and a low-rent radio job in a dead end industry, BUT long and loud opinions in the land of wannabe!
Fcc stuff is very available. On the other hand, music research is much more proprietary and is often ILLEGAL to share. You can't find it on the internet, like you can find every fcc detail.
It's really amusing that you say that you want facts, and I actually have the facts right here in my computer, right now (we bought over a thousand 1954-1985 songs worth of "Midwest" auditorium music research). I'm pointing to Sugar, Sugar. Too bad you can't read it.
But, you don't believe anything I told you, anyway. You say I "have sad psychotic delusions of grandeur" and all that "whore" stuff about the trades that I was quite successful with, and specific about, and, by the way, I NEVER said "used to be."
NOTE; Everything I told you is 100% TRUE, and the people you named in a prior post ALL know (even Bob Rohrman knows). Just because YOU seem to attract people that want to kvetch and spit at YOU (some not even smart enough to use good English). Not all of us are in that situation.
O, and I'm "everything you hate about radio" too.
You, in fact lots of your generation, could stand a lesson about the "value of what a friend can do." What a spoiled, cranky bunch you are.
You need to shut off the computer and watch the Godfather, or maybe a Barney video would be more your intellectual capacity.
tjthedj said:
Like I said.
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Ur-A-Dawg said:
Not only that, the best DJ job I ever had was at a Country Station in Evansville.
I hated country music.
But, because I was playing country eight hours a day, I didn't get sick of the Rock/Classic Rock music I really like.
Therefore, I could go home and dig on my own music, and still enjoy it.
I think if I was playing Classic Rock all day, I'd have felt like it was work to go home and listen to it.
And.... As any professional DJ knows, we do play songs we don't like.
It sounds like everyone's got their own way of approaching the work.
Personally, if I didn't enjoy the music, it would make work much less enjoyable and much harder to "sell" what I'm playing.
If you aren't a big music fan and just want to punch the clock and have a "professional" radio job and can fake being really into a song/artist that you hate in reality, then that option could work.
"Do you work to live or live to work?"
Is that how that old question used to go? :-\
Personally, if I didn't enjoy the music, it would make work much less enjoyable and much harder to "sell" what I'm playing.
If you aren't a big music fan and just want to punch the clock and have a "professional" radio job and can fake being really into a song/artist that you hate in reality, then that option could work.
"Do you work to live or live to work?"
Is that how that old question used to go? :-\
"It sounds like everyone's got their own way of approaching the work.
Personally, if I didn't enjoy the music, it would make work much less enjoyable and much harder to "sell" what I'm playing.'
No disrespect but what the hell are you talking about? A true pro takes the tools that he has and makes the very best of them whether he likes the music or not. There is much more that goes into it.
Regardless of the music format you have to know the audience and build a relationship with them. You have to be yourself and sometimes an actor but at all times an entertainer. What you are saying is the same thing that if I were a newsperson and I had to do a story about something I didn't like, I couldn't do it and I'd be no good at it. Step up and deliver, bring something to the table, believe in yourself, that's a pro.
Personally, if I didn't enjoy the music, it would make work much less enjoyable and much harder to "sell" what I'm playing.'
No disrespect but what the hell are you talking about? A true pro takes the tools that he has and makes the very best of them whether he likes the music or not. There is much more that goes into it.
Regardless of the music format you have to know the audience and build a relationship with them. You have to be yourself and sometimes an actor but at all times an entertainer. What you are saying is the same thing that if I were a newsperson and I had to do a story about something I didn't like, I couldn't do it and I'd be no good at it. Step up and deliver, bring something to the table, believe in yourself, that's a pro.
I couldnt agree more, Randy.
My company pays me for what I do in between the records. What do I care what I'm playing?
Its one thing to be passionate about the music. Its quite another when that passion interferes with programming.
My company pays me for what I do in between the records. What do I care what I'm playing?
Its one thing to be passionate about the music. Its quite another when that passion interferes with programming.
Wow! Did I stutter?
I said everyone has a different approach to the work, didn't I? ???
If it's all about just "doing the gig" for your company and punching the clock, that's FINE!
If being a "pro" is just tolerating your product, that's fine for some, too. Call me "anti-pro" then. That's cool.
There's a BIG difference between being an entertainer on the radio pretending you're happy about the tune you're playing and being a legit newsperson and reporting events people need to know about (except if you're just a talking head or sidekick who has no news cred). Not a good enough comparison/analogy for me.
PERSONALLY (capitalized for crying out loud), I'd be really depressed if I had to sound excited about a format I hated and all I was left with was cutting spots and doing weekend remotes for my company.
If loving the music your station is playing is a perk, then it would be just as important to me as the health plan.
After many hours of listening in my car, I don't hear anybody in Lafayette "bringing something to the table" besides reading promo cards, following what the music automation spits out for them, asking the caller "where they are calling from", back-announcing, and loading up their voice-tracking anyway. SO believing in the music would have to be a large percentage of making the whole thing tolerable/enjoyable to be in the air studio for
4-5 hours of the 8-hour workday, wouldn't it?
What are you left with otherwise that makes you want to be/keep being a DJ (please don't say "gotta pay the bills!")?
Being a DJ playing music on the radio and NOT enjoying the music you are playing is worlds apart from jobs like a lawyer (who doesn't like the law but practices it? Using that example? Say what?).
Or maybe a baseball player (who doesn't like the team he plays for, but does the best he can because he's "being a pro"? He really doesn't enjoy the part about hitting and catching the ball. Huh?).
"Towing the company line" takes on a whole different meaning in radio and is comparing apples and oranges unless you're an owner, consultant, or sales person who doesn't have to like the music, just the job/paycheck.
Otherwise, PERSONALLY (again, big letters so you don't miss my point), you should be excited about the music and not just pretend to like it all day for the sake of keeping your job. Sounds grueling...
Yes, music is "product" but not like a salesman going door-to-door with spray cleaner. It's music after all.
One more time, based on a PERSONAL opinion I'm not wrong. It's just another view of what being on the air and having a job as a DJ at a radio station is about for some people.
Traditionally, your love of music and listening to the radio are the first casualties of being a DJ, right? That's a shame, but it's true
???
I don't remember anyone ever saying, "Back when I was in junior high, I always dreamed of being on the air like Larry Lujack, Wolfman Jack, and Dr. Dimento and not giving a crap about the music, but delivering a great product for my company". G'huh???
This is a radio forum, not a radio rule book.
I said everyone has a different approach to the work, didn't I? ???
If it's all about just "doing the gig" for your company and punching the clock, that's FINE!
If being a "pro" is just tolerating your product, that's fine for some, too. Call me "anti-pro" then. That's cool.
There's a BIG difference between being an entertainer on the radio pretending you're happy about the tune you're playing and being a legit newsperson and reporting events people need to know about (except if you're just a talking head or sidekick who has no news cred). Not a good enough comparison/analogy for me.
PERSONALLY (capitalized for crying out loud), I'd be really depressed if I had to sound excited about a format I hated and all I was left with was cutting spots and doing weekend remotes for my company.
If loving the music your station is playing is a perk, then it would be just as important to me as the health plan.
After many hours of listening in my car, I don't hear anybody in Lafayette "bringing something to the table" besides reading promo cards, following what the music automation spits out for them, asking the caller "where they are calling from", back-announcing, and loading up their voice-tracking anyway. SO believing in the music would have to be a large percentage of making the whole thing tolerable/enjoyable to be in the air studio for
4-5 hours of the 8-hour workday, wouldn't it?
What are you left with otherwise that makes you want to be/keep being a DJ (please don't say "gotta pay the bills!")?
Being a DJ playing music on the radio and NOT enjoying the music you are playing is worlds apart from jobs like a lawyer (who doesn't like the law but practices it? Using that example? Say what?).
Or maybe a baseball player (who doesn't like the team he plays for, but does the best he can because he's "being a pro"? He really doesn't enjoy the part about hitting and catching the ball. Huh?).
"Towing the company line" takes on a whole different meaning in radio and is comparing apples and oranges unless you're an owner, consultant, or sales person who doesn't have to like the music, just the job/paycheck.
Otherwise, PERSONALLY (again, big letters so you don't miss my point), you should be excited about the music and not just pretend to like it all day for the sake of keeping your job. Sounds grueling...
Yes, music is "product" but not like a salesman going door-to-door with spray cleaner. It's music after all.
One more time, based on a PERSONAL opinion I'm not wrong. It's just another view of what being on the air and having a job as a DJ at a radio station is about for some people.
Traditionally, your love of music and listening to the radio are the first casualties of being a DJ, right? That's a shame, but it's true
???
I don't remember anyone ever saying, "Back when I was in junior high, I always dreamed of being on the air like Larry Lujack, Wolfman Jack, and Dr. Dimento and not giving a crap about the music, but delivering a great product for my company". G'huh???
This is a radio forum, not a radio rule book.
Our stations from Indy serve Lafayette quite well and we make good ratings there.
However the small stations from Lafayette don't come in here at all.
So, I have 2 questions.
1. Are they still calling themselves (Classic Hits)?
2. Are they still playing the Archies-Sugar Sugar?
However the small stations from Lafayette don't come in here at all.
So, I have 2 questions.
1. Are they still calling themselves (Classic Hits)?
2. Are they still playing the Archies-Sugar Sugar?
Tired-Old-Dog said:
A little help, Tired. I think you're going for a "jab" here or something, however...
Clarify:
Who's "they"? Which station?
And WFBQ is finishing a modest 8th Adults 25-54 in Lafayette using a 4-book average
with WIBC down around 11th in Lafayette. Hardly "quite well" or something sellable to boast about.
Where are you getting your information on how "good" your Indy stations are doing?
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