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Wave g'bye to Joey.
- Thread starter DeltaDon
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This time without nailing his shoes to the PDs door with a note reading "fill these."DeltaDon said:
Joey's a great ambassador for Buffalo and Western New York. Could he still hold court on the WOR Network? Prob'ly not, but you never know. The guy's still viable.
Could Entercom sign Joey for a live origination show on the 50kw flamethrower that hits 17 states, two coutries and all the ships at sea? Syndicate Reynolds out of Buffalo. Or he could do the show on ISDN from his living room and be heard in NYC almost as well as if he was on WOR.
WECK could cut an ISDN deal with Joey. There are all kinds of possibilities. Yeah, I know... what am I thinkin'.
JimPastrick said:
Nice thoughts Jim but that would require management with insight and money. Both are in short supply these days.
He had a good run and I'd like to be more eloquent but this just plain sucks.
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Guess it's true, but it's a questionable business move on WOR's part if they're just cancelling him. They were selling the show not only in NYC, but marketing it to over 100 other markets, making $$$ from it. Now they have to pay either cash, inventory or both to someone else.
If you assume it's an economy move, this doesn't add up.
IIRC Joey is the same age as Danny Neaverth, which would make him about 70 or 71 now. The only way this makes sense is that he's decided to retire, either because Buckley won't pay him what he thinks they should and he can afford to walk away out of pride (the mellowed veteran's version of shoes nailed to the door), or because after more than 50 years on the air he's just had enough of the nightly grind and he's put away enough that money's no longer such a big issue.
Whatever, he'll be missed and the business will be poorer for his departure. Hope this isn't the last we'll hear of him...
If you assume it's an economy move, this doesn't add up.
IIRC Joey is the same age as Danny Neaverth, which would make him about 70 or 71 now. The only way this makes sense is that he's decided to retire, either because Buckley won't pay him what he thinks they should and he can afford to walk away out of pride (the mellowed veteran's version of shoes nailed to the door), or because after more than 50 years on the air he's just had enough of the nightly grind and he's put away enough that money's no longer such a big issue.
Whatever, he'll be missed and the business will be poorer for his departure. Hope this isn't the last we'll hear of him...
Okay Bob, what you say makes sense when you look at it that way but "Coast To Coast"? I've tried to listen to it but it's a complete waste, pure dreck. Not only that but at night you can hear it from one side of the AM dial to the other, it's like a cancer. In broadcasting today there is all this technology and so many things that could be done with it. This is the best they could come up with?
Art Vulo had a good line about this, he said, "Radio keeps drinking Cool Aid and wonders why it has a stomach ache".
Art Vulo had a good line about this, he said, "Radio keeps drinking Cool Aid and wonders why it has a stomach ache".
I have a feeling that Buckley is slowly phasing itself out of radio, bit by bit. They sold their stations in Syracuse. The WOR Network has struggled for a long time. I'm sure the economy has really hurt it, regardless of the station numbers. And if the mother ship is now carrying outside syndication, rather than developing original shows, that leads me to believe the network's days are numbered.
I've been listening to Joey off and on for the last few nights, and maybe I missed a clue, but it didn't sound like a planned departure on his part. He's been talking about his show being televised, bringing particular guests back, etc. etc. Maybe he holds his cards pretty close to his chest, that wouldn't surprise me.
IMO, his is a fantastic show and he deserves to land somewhere else -- and in a good spot -- if that's his wish.
IMO, his is a fantastic show and he deserves to land somewhere else -- and in a good spot -- if that's his wish.
Listening to Joey this morning, I have to agree. It sure doesn't sound like it was his idea.
It was only many years after the fact that I learned Joey was responsible for Pop-Tops...and for a rather bizarre "Experimental A/C" format during the final days of KQV/Pittsburgh as a music station.
http://14kqv.andmuchmore.com/
Look down the list of links on the left for "Joey Reynolds' Page". Complete with audio links...hearing the 1:38 Legal ID (based on 2001:A Space Odyssey!) is a must.
Some of it's a lot of fun, some of it's just plain weird...but credit Taft and Joey Reynolds for having the cojones to try something new. If we only had a few more risk-takers in the business today...
http://14kqv.andmuchmore.com/
Look down the list of links on the left for "Joey Reynolds' Page". Complete with audio links...hearing the 1:38 Legal ID (based on 2001:A Space Odyssey!) is a must.
Some of it's a lot of fun, some of it's just plain weird...but credit Taft and Joey Reynolds for having the cojones to try something new. If we only had a few more risk-takers in the business today...
Mike Sheridan said:
I listened last night, but missed the top of the show where I think he talked about this. Anyway, later in the show, he alluded to the plans to televise the show. I still can't imagine how that's going to work, but he seems committed to it.
Anyway, that link indicates that the TV show will be on, and simulcast on WOR-HD. Still, not WOR, and what about the show's syndication? No longer happening, it sounds like?
Buckley's WOR Network has been in decline for years. For a while back in our 1kw-daytimer days we carried a couple of their offerings, Dr. Joy Browne and The Dolans (we called em "The Doldrums".) Even for us, the shows were kind of place-holders after we lost much of the old ABC TalkRadio lineup including Rush. We were focusing more on developing our FM projects.
But as 20 years have passed WOR is still offering these creaky programs to a dwindling affiliate base. They dumped their Hennican show after essentially only Buckley stations carried it, and has been noted here, they recently sold the Syracuse cluster at a fire-sale price.
In New York, I note once-proud flagship WOR is featuring a lot of colon-blow half-hours on the weekends - in sparkling AM HD noise-generating digital, of course.
Maybe if they hadn't poured so much capital into HD, they could have revamped their programming into something more up-to-date. Would that have saved a 71-year old former KB legend? That's unclear.
But as 20 years have passed WOR is still offering these creaky programs to a dwindling affiliate base. They dumped their Hennican show after essentially only Buckley stations carried it, and has been noted here, they recently sold the Syracuse cluster at a fire-sale price.
In New York, I note once-proud flagship WOR is featuring a lot of colon-blow half-hours on the weekends - in sparkling AM HD noise-generating digital, of course.
Maybe if they hadn't poured so much capital into HD, they could have revamped their programming into something more up-to-date. Would that have saved a 71-year old former KB legend? That's unclear.
If he's 70-71 years old, as estimated, he's substantially out of the demo. Given the youth-crazed advertising culture ("if it's not top three 25-49, we're not interested") will advertisers buy into his show? Word is, he landed a TV show and his all night show will be heard on some HD-2 station. The question is, who'll watch and listen? God love him for his longevity, but there's something to be said for knowing when to leave and walking away at the top of one's game. Hope he doesn't become the second coming of Joe Franklin as portrayed in Billy Crystal's comedy sketches.Bob1370 said:
IMHO, the 55+ demo is ideal for radio overnights. Witness the people who call in to Steve LeVeille on WBZ. Granted, you won't pull in Rush numbers, but there has to be a non-shock alternative to UFO talk. I'm not
sure it will work on TV (with all the overhead), unless there's a lot of live performers who will grab eyeballs.
sure it will work on TV (with all the overhead), unless there's a lot of live performers who will grab eyeballs.
1. This doesn't affect his TV plans. It's actually part of his TV plans.
2. He didn't get canned by Buckley. It's a mutual decision based on the fact that his contract is up on April 2 (nice timing, eh?).
Joey is very much in charge here. And his future is definitely bright.
More to come...
2. He didn't get canned by Buckley. It's a mutual decision based on the fact that his contract is up on April 2 (nice timing, eh?).
Joey is very much in charge here. And his future is definitely bright.
More to come...
Debaser said:
I suspected this. And as far as Joey and whether he's at the top or his game or not, I never heard him throughout his career, until this show. I'm a generation younger than he is, and to me it sounds like great radio, even if it doesn't draw top numbers. It's obviously not for everyone, but I think it's just the show he wants and is allowed to do.
Pardon my ignorance on this: I know the 4 Seasons recorded Joey's theme(to the tune of their hit, Big Girls Don't Cry) because he was friends with them and promoted them on-air early in their careers BUT...the actual Joey Reynolds theme has such a great orchestra arrangement during the instrumental portion(last couple minutes) of the theme...right up to the big ending.
This was quite an effort, just for a radio DJ(even one at a 50kw blowtorch). Was this instrumental masterpiece already recorded and the Season's just "voice-tracked" the vocals? Anyone know the story on this? I know all their hits, but not a huge fan. But love the arrangements on Joey's theme. Every other DJ in America must have been green with envy.
This was quite an effort, just for a radio DJ(even one at a 50kw blowtorch). Was this instrumental masterpiece already recorded and the Season's just "voice-tracked" the vocals? Anyone know the story on this? I know all their hits, but not a huge fan. But love the arrangements on Joey's theme. Every other DJ in America must have been green with envy.
I asked Joey for the story, and here's what he wrote:
Bob Crewe produced the 4 Seasons.
Joey Reynolds broke the Sherry record at WPOP (it's in the liner notes on the L.P/E.P.)
Bob as a thank you (no payola here) gave Joey the theme which was done with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, /also Joey conducted the Buffalo Philharmonic with the 4 Seasons in a live concert at Kleinhans Music Hall that year (1963),subsequently going on the road in the summer as an emcee. Bob is still a very good friend of Joey's as is Frankie, Tommy, and Bob G. Nick is taking a time out in heaven.
And there is the official story.
Bob Crewe produced the 4 Seasons.
Joey Reynolds broke the Sherry record at WPOP (it's in the liner notes on the L.P/E.P.)
Bob as a thank you (no payola here) gave Joey the theme which was done with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, /also Joey conducted the Buffalo Philharmonic with the 4 Seasons in a live concert at Kleinhans Music Hall that year (1963),subsequently going on the road in the summer as an emcee. Bob is still a very good friend of Joey's as is Frankie, Tommy, and Bob G. Nick is taking a time out in heaven.
And there is the official story.
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