Way to go Depetro

[Lucylu]

Is it just me, or did anyone else find it disquieting to hear John Depetro, given his resent history, try to make fun of Mel Gibson’s drunken anti-Semitic rant while defending Mitt Romney’s ‘slip of the tongue’? I was actually glued to his show today while I was in the car because he sounded like a man trending water, and caller after caller were just handing him glass after glass of water. At one point the just gave up and started hanging up on people without comment. Compelling, in a ‘hey look, a car wreck’ kind of way.

He seemed almost as uncomfortable as Randy Price used to get whenever he had to ‘report’ on a DUI story. Price got over it, but I wonder if Depetro will be on the air long enough to be comfortable with the hypocrisy of making fun of public figures who say stupid, offensive things? :-\

 

[raccoonradio]

DePetro may feel he and Romney were alike in that they were using comparisons, and were either misunderstood (himself--in his own mind) or there's a claim of ignorance of a slang term (Romney)...in his own case, he claimed
the f-word re: Amorello ("F-- Matt. Wife wears the pants.") was misinterpreted, as he later explained. (Am
not defending it, just saying how HE may feel), and he prob. feels Romney didn't understand the racial
overtones of "tar baby"--a term that has also been used by the Herald, Globe, and many other people...

Meanwhile, Gibson's drunken (in vino, or in tequila, veritas) comments were not a comparison, but a direct accusation. He came right out and said that in his opinion, all wars were caused by Jews. Not a slang term. Therefore DePetro
may feel that it's not the same thing (a theory on my part). One thing's for sure: a guy as rich as Gibson should have had someone
driving him around that night...

 

[Lucylu]

I agree that Romney had no malicious intent when he said ‘tar-baby’, I don’t think the same can be said of Depetro. I think his meaning was very clear. Amorello is less than a man in Depetro’s eyes, therefore a ‘f-g’, although I could think of a number of ‘f-gs’ that are twice the ‘man’, independent or otherwise, Depetro claims to be.

I think what I dislike most about his show is he keeps on talking although he actually has very little to say. He brought nothing to the table today, and prompted by a caller’s mis-information, even went on to claim that Gibson was going to produce an anti-Semetic Mini-series about the Holocaust for ABC, but surely, John claimed in his all-knowing way, that wouldn’t happen now. Of course not. It was a lie. It was never going to happen in the first place.

Gisbon’s next project is the feature film Apocalypto, about the decline of the Maya kingdom, and then he was going to produce a drama about the warrior Boudica, and star in a crime movie for Richard Donner. There was no holocaust mini-series on his plate, but the facts would have gotten in the way of Depetro’s feeble attempts at humor, so he swallowed the listener's hook and kept repeating the lie over and over because he had nothing else to say.

Why is Jason Wolfe such an empty suit that he won’t get rid of his 12th place mid-show?

 

[Varulven]

Didn't Tony Snow just use the same term that Romney employed? If so, Romney - being a good little Republican - should have been aware of the controversial nature of his remark. It is so obvious they are using these "grey area" terms to get more mileage out of the press. And it appears to be working - we are talking about it...

 

[AKLes]

I agree that Romney had no malicious intent when he said ‘tar-baby’........

Christ upon a crutch!

Here it comes again...another ancient figure of speech crucified on the cross of Political Correctness.

"Tar Baby" long predates the (now forbidden) J.C. Harris book/Disney film whose name we dare not speak.

To wit:

A "tar baby" is a form of a character widespread in African folklore. In various folktales, gum, wax, or other sticky material is used to trap a person.

In the figurative sense, 'an inextricable problem or situation', implying a nefarious effort to entrap someone.

So, if the term having been used in a (gasp) now-regarded-as-racist story means it should not be used, then I present this:

Every racist, sacriligious, pornographic book ever written has employed certain words whose usage in those abominations makes them obscene of themselves:

He
She
It
The
A
And
But

So if you want to be a politically correct purist, you gotta stop using ALL THOSE FILTHY WORDS!

 

[raccoonradio]

via Wikipedia: * John F. Kerry, Massachusetts Senator, was once advised by his staff not to pursue an investigation into the fate of Americans who had never returned from Vietnam. In an article published in the the August 10, 1992 New York Times, journalist Barbara Crossette quotes Kerry: "Everybody on my staff, everybody I knew thought I was crazy, and said, 'Don't do this,' " he recalls. "They said it's a no-win tar baby."'

" * Andrew J. Bacevich, professor of international relations at Boston University, wrote in a September 15, 2005 Boston Globe editorial, "Iraq was conceived as a short war, producing a quick victory. Instead, it has become a tar-baby that has left the mystique of the American military establishment in tatters."

 

[Lucylu]

I agree that Romney had no malicious intent when he said ‘tar-baby’........

Christ upon a crutch!

Here it comes again...another ancient figure of speech crucified on the cross of Political Correctness.

Hmm, let me guess; you’ve had that saved up for days now and were just looking for some place/any place to use it? Because you’ve gone almost as far off topic as Valvuline and his conspiracy theory.

Tar-baby can be used as a derogatory term to describe a person of African decent. (Reference: a very funny skit between Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor on the first season of SNL when they trade slur after slur. That was the first, and only time I had ever heard it used that way, but I was young).

Tar-baby can be used to describe a sticky situation. Some other well known words like this are: N-g--r, darky, C---ns, Spooks, and colored, all of which were at various times acceptable, but are now considered offensive in North America.

But as I very clearly said, in the section that you quoted, I DON’T THINK HE USED IT IN A DEROGATORY WAY! So just who are you trying to sway as you put Christ up on his crutch?

Honestly, you are about as reactive and ignorant as Depetro… Hey, wait a second.

 

[Varulven]

we are still on topic, lucy lu, and there's no "conspiracy theory"; the fact that Snow said it a few weeks earlier should've been enough for Romney to shut his mouth. Making the same faux pas twice in a month or so is dumb for the Republicans...dumb dumb dumb. Yes, they have conspired many times, but this is not one of those moments - this just reveals the Republicans to be exactly what they truly are: dumb and falling into the same pit over & over again. As long as they have Diebold they have no shame.

 

[raccoonradio]

If the Republicans have Diebold on their side, why aren't there more of them in office in Mass.? 10 out of 10 US Reps are Democrats... I guess the GOP just doesn't cheat here in the Bay State....

>>Yes, they have conspired many times,

Oh for the good old days...the Mafia helping JFK in Illinois in '60...From the BBC, old chap:
"The most controversial aspect of the campaign continues to puzzle investigators - the role of organised crime. At the time, Chicago mafia boss Sam Giancana, who shared a mistress with Kennedy, bragged that Kennedy 'wouldn't even be in the White House' without the use of intimidation at the polls in Illinois.
Chicago mayor Richard Daley - the father of Al Gore's campaign manager, William Daley - famously told Kennedy late on election day: 'With a little bit of luck, and the help of a few close friends, you're going to carry Illinois.'

"The turnout in Chicago was a staggering 89% - compared to the national figure of 62.8%.
And despite losing 93 of Illinois's 102 counties, Kennedy was eventually declared the winner by 8,858 votes.
As well as in Illinois, dirty tricks were alleged in several states including Missouri, Texas, New Jersey and West Virginia."

Yep, the Dems just lose elections these days because they're foolish enough to play by the rules! Of course
this is just a conspiracy theory, you know ;D (Did RFK Jr. mention the controversy surrouding his uncle's election
at all? Fair is fair, after all, and if the Democrats engage in election chicanery, surely he should have mentioned it...
even so far as if to deny that it really happened.) :

-------------------------------------
SHOCKING! The real reason for Castro's illness: He was headbutted by a French soccer star...

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/headbutt.gif

 

[Lucylu]

My bad. I forgot that this is Vasalines board and anyone that disagrees, or doesn't embrace his digressions, will be banished. :-*

 

[AKLes]

Tar-baby can be used as a derogatory term to describe a person of African decent.

Yes, and "stump" cn be used as a derogatory term to describe a person of low intelligence. Fortunately, I have not yet read a PC replacement word for that which remains when a tree is cut down.

That was the first, and only time I had ever heard it used that way, but I was young).

The "but" implies apology. If so intended, accepted. If not....well, life is hard....

But as I very clearly said, in the section that you quoted, I DON’T THINK HE USED IT IN A DEROGATORY WAY! So just who are you trying to sway as you put Christ up on his crutch?

And here a clear misunderstanding. I used your quote NOT to suggest that you were the critic; it was clear that you were defending the use of the term in context, though the above suggests I may have misjudged.

Nay, my assault is upon those who seize upon anything they can get their paws on to run gaily
gleefully through the streets screaming "NOT PC! NOT PC! NOT PC! These are the people who have already ruined most public forums and are now out to ruin anyone who fails to grab a torch, pitchfork, and run with the pack. It would seem that Rommney and Depetro are just convenient whipping boys persons of masculine gender; emphasizing that any talk show host with less stature/following than Rush needs to watch his/her tongue and test EVERY word or phrase against some imaginary Funk & Wagnalls dictionary of the offensive and/or insensitive. And Rush....well, HE'S beyond the pale (look it up, it might be NOT PC so I'll make it easy for you http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pal2.htm) and the righteous need not waste their time on HIM.

Our language grows more poor by the day.

Honestly, you are about as reactive and ignorant as Depetro… Hey, wait a second.

et tu?

 

[Lucylu]

I don't think I'd put Depitro in that company. I don't really think there is any mistaking when one man calls another man a 'f-g'. : Oh yeah, he meant he was a bundle of sticks.

 

[Lucylu]

PS: The use of the work 'Nay' is an insult to all equine-americans. ;D

 

[Eli Polonsky]

PS: The use of the work 'Nay' is an insult to all equine-americans. ;D

Depends on how it's spelled. The sound a horse makes is the word "neigh".

"Nay" is the old English word for no, or a negative group vote.

 

[Lucylu]

That's how the euro/white man spells it. Horses spell it "UUU", as the opressive shoe the man make them wear limits their use of other letters.

 

[AKLes]

I don't really think there is any mistaking when one man calls another man a 'f-g'. : Oh yeah, he meant he was a bundle of sticks.

Nor do I under those circumstances. My protest is against the usurping of words and the ignoring of their original meanings. Can you honestly say that the PC among us would not object were someone to say something like: "The Director of Public Idiocy, fagged out by the day-to-day criticism, abruptly resigned."? Would not the reporter who wrote that line not be flogged for allegedly name-calling against the DPI? Yeah, a reach; any modern reporter SHOULD know his readership is sufficiently semi-literate never to have heard "fagged" in THAT context...

Which brings us to the lunacy of dumbing-down of reportage to the lowest common demoninator. I mean, how expressive can one be when limiting a story to words of no more than one syllable or five letters?

 

[Lucylu]

Language is an ocean, man. Ride the current wave. Leave those crazy poly-syllabic words behind like so much floatsum and jetsum. Be free, like a man-o-war, to drift with the tides, you big ***.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

"The most controversial aspect of the campaign continues to puzzle investigators - the role of organised crime. At the time, Chicago mafia boss Sam Giancana, who shared a mistress with Kennedy, bragged that Kennedy 'wouldn't even be in the White House' without the use of intimidation at the polls in Illinois.
Chicago mayor Richard Daley - the father of Al Gore's campaign manager, William Daley - famously told Kennedy late on election day: 'With a little bit of luck, and the help of a few close friends, you're going to carry Illinois.'

"The turnout in Chicago was a staggering 89% - compared to the national figure of 62.8%.
And despite losing 93 of Illinois's 102 counties, Kennedy was eventually declared the winner by 8,858 votes...Of course
this is just a conspiracy theory, you know

Maybe not so far-fetched as you might think. Some believe that there was a quid pro quo for Daley and the Mob to help JFK win the White House (after Papa Joe asked for their help), and that RFK accusing the unions of being mobbed up and going after Jimmy Hoffa was a slap in the face instead of the quo they were after...possibly leading to the events of November 22 and 24, 1963 (i.e., assassinate the double-crosser and silence the hired gun).

Yes, just a theory. But, as inexorably as two plus two equals four, that theory sure does explain a lot.

 

[Lucylu]

I'll give you a dollar to shut up.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

I'll give you a dollar to shut up.

No one holds a gun to your head to force you to read what I write, and as long as I am allowed access to this board, I have the same right to post as you or anyone else. If you don't like it, don't read it.