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WBAI Struggles

Re: WBAI massive layoffs

ProducerGuy said:
They've existed their entire life by conning people into believing in their politics and handing over hard earned money to a losing proposition.

Not exactly true. The people who gave them money were pre-disposed to do so because they already believed their politics. There are a lot of people today who still share their political views. Just that they have other ways to accomplish their goals besides donating to a radio station or group.

There are similarities between the problems facing Pacifica and those facing commercial stations who've seen longtime sponsors disappear. That doesn't mean commercial radio is dead. It just means you keep asking and keep beating the drum.
 
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Well said BigA. The more I read these radio boards the more I realize that conservative talk radio and its most ardent supporters don't see it as entertainment but as a infomercial for the cause. Many of these same patriots say they believe in democracy, just as long as its a single party democracy. One which espouses their political viewpoints. I am not a fan of WBAI and disagree with the 99% of the political ideology it broadcasts. It is by no means a station with a liberal audience. It’s pretty far left wing and anti capitalist in its ideology. That isn't to say that I have never heard the station. I do miss the early Monday Shepherd rebroadcasts which I used to listen to on the trip in to work. Those broadcasts have been replaced by Al Jazeera (another who cares broadcast) and so I don’t listen to anything on the station. On the other hand this is NYC and where we used to have 2 commercial classical stations & we now have none. Yes, I am aware of both WQXR and WNYC’s non commercial HD broadcasts. WBAI does serve an audience and the only reason I can see for some people to cheer its demise is to silence a viewpoint being broadcast on a full power station that they don’t agree with. While they would never admit to such a thing it’s blatantly obvious that there is a anger expressed towards that station every time the call sign is brought up. Are there alternate outlets for this type of broadcasting, yes. But, as of now nothing has the potential for wide broad full city coverage that they get on 99.5. Unless you are lucky enough to have a cell service with an unlimited data plan you’re out of luck as far as internet streaming goes. As far as comparing liberal talk radios success with that of conservative talk radio, at least here in NYC the only outlet for liberal talk radio is a station on 1600 KHz with limited coverage. WBAI does program music that is otherwise unavailable and does broadcast some good shows of professional caliber, such as the show done by Gary Byrd. One of the stations major problems is that most people know nothing about what’s being broadcast outside of their fringe political programing. Advertising takes money and expertise. WBAI has neither. The station being non commercial could get corporate underwriting for it’s more mainstream music programing but I don’t believe the station employs anyone with the knowledge of such things. What it all comes down to Pacifica putting someone in charge who knows what he or she is doing. That is why Laura Walker at WNYC is such a success. There’s money to be had you just have to know how to go about attracting it. Selling a NY property, which is wholly owned is not the answer. Unlike many other broadcasters I believe Pacifica owns its facilities outright. Too bad other broadcasters who have over extended themselves can not say the same thing.
 
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R.F. Burns said:
The station being non commercial could get corporate underwriting for it’s more mainstream music programing but I don’t believe the station employs anyone with the knowledge of such things. \

Worse than that, they have a distrust for such things. Democracy Now clearly states they don't accept corporate underwriting, and I imagine that feeling goes beyond that single show.
 
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Many of these same patriots say they believe in democracy, just as long as its a single party democracy.

That can be said for both sides of the political isle (which are just two sides of the same coin), just as Mr. Reid, Mrs. Pelosi etc about how they feel about the other side.

The "we want one party" idea isn't limited to uber conservatives.

My father once said, "I lived through the 60's and hippies were the most intolerant people I've ever met."

Back to radio, WBAI is narrowcasting to the smallest of splinter groups, they have no common goals because each host treats "their show" as it's own little dictatorship and most of the programming is just plain boring. Imagine if each one of the Yankees decided that they were just going to play their own way, do what they want and not listen to Joe Girardi. That's WBAI. The point about intolerance is proven, because each one of them want to do it only their way and can't see to be part of a team.
 
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", "I lived through the 60's and hippies were the most intolerant people I've ever met."

I live through the 60's (I'm old enough to remember the 60's) and never heard that. Who were these so called Hippies intolerant of? The establishment who were sending young men off to die in Viet Nam which turned out to be unwinnable and a real waste of time as it turned out.

I never said that it was ONLY conservatives who were intolerant of others. As I alluded to, I am a moderate politically and not a listener of WBAI. It's my belief that WBAI is programed to appeal to different people at different times. Like the old days of radio, you had some people who listened to Soap operas, some who liked comedy, some who liked Drama, all on the same station. Not everything has to be identical 24/7 for a station to be a success. As to their philosophy about underwriting, there are ideals and realities in life. Ideals are wonderful but sometimes a person has to face reality or fade away. That's their choice and now we have to wait to see what their decision will be.
 
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I'm amazed at how Occupy Wall Street just in New York City was able to raise almost $700,000 in a few months to support the encampment, as well as other expenses like bail, transportation, a march from NYC to Washington DC (yes they actually had almost a hundred people walk all the way to DC), etc. Why can't WBAI have the same fundraising success by just tapping into those same people that donated to Occupy Wall Street?
 
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Based on several articles about the situation, I am getting the impression there is a good possibility that WBAI may not need to sell off the license to 99.5 FM, and move to a less powerful station.
Management apparently intends to lay off 75% of the staff. The combined cost savings from the staff reductions, and their move to less expensive studio space could provide the expense reductions needed to maintain operations.
As dysfunctional as WBAI is, perhaps they are at least coming to the realization that they are in no position to have a large paid staff, and expensive digs in Manhattan.
 
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Hearing that Pacifica Executive Director Summer Reese will be "on the air Friday from 4-6 PM to address the listeners" (assuming there are any).

It will likely be a push for donations since they're in another fund drive, but she'll probably offer some insight as to the station's plans too, now that the layoffs have presumably taken effect.
 
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Theater of My Mind said:
Hearing that Pacifica Executive Director Summer Reese will be "on the air Friday from 4-6 PM to address the listeners" (assuming there are any).

It will likely be a push for donations since they're in another fund drive, but she'll probably offer some insight as to the station's plans too, now that the layoffs have presumably taken effect.

Any revelations today?????
 
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The Executive Director is currently on the air, crying, saying virtually all paid staff and the news department is laid off as of Monday.
 
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What she doesn't understand is there are people in this country who run non-commercial stations with VOLUNTEERS. That's how WBAI was once run. I know because I used to be one. They need to remember what community radio is all about. It's about being a part of the community, not having a paid staff and comfortable studios in expensive buildings. They lost their way a long time ago. It's about time they rediscovered it.
 
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Former Program Director Andrew Phillips, who left in 1993, had been brought back from KPFA to lead the reboot of the station. No word yet on what the replacement programming will be but they described it as shows that are already produced and they don't have to pay for. They're talking about using volunteers as well but didn't specify yet in what capacity.
 
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At one time, they had an incredible archive. Don't know if it still exists. But lots of radio drama, Bob Fass, poetry readings, politics, history, music. They could easily just re-air all their old stuff and get pretty much the same ratings.
 
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The Pacifica archives are still around, and actually air on one of the BBC stations weekly.

Here's the Inside Radio article:

http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/83912/wbai-lays-off-entire-staff/

In a nutshell, Reece says the station has lost hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, the home office is broke, the emergency transmitter fund needs to be used to pay off back payroll, everyone's fired, and they owe Democracy Now! $2 million dollars.

The best part? They're not selling the stations.

Right.
 
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TheBigA said:
What she doesn't understand is there are people in this country who run non-commercial stations with VOLUNTEERS. That's how WBAI was once run. I know because I used to be one. They need to remember what community radio is all about. It's about being a part of the community, not having a paid staff and comfortable studios in expensive buildings. They lost their way a long time ago. It's about time they rediscovered it.

As I understand it WFMU ia almost entirely volunteer DJs....I don't see why WBAI couldn't return to that mode of operation. A lot of college stations also rely upon community members as DJs/what ever in addition to the college students...and don't seem to have any difficulty finding volunteers. I know this first hand....having been involved with four different college stations over the years...
 
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