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WBAP, KSCS and TSN All Get an "F"

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Andyf101

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Nice going to WBAP and KSCS, for not scrapping the Required Weekly Test from their programming this afternoon. Not only did they both run tests in the middle of PM drive, they did it as the storm was approaching the western half of the metroplex. Talk about the stations that cried wolf! They shoulda both moved the tests to Friday, or something.

TSN gets an F because I was listening to their 6:55 News Feed and there was absolutely no mention of the approaching storm. They didn't even have drops from Brad in that feed, like they normally do in such situations.

All three of you need to shape up!

Andy
 
I agree...that isnt the best thing to do in cases of this nature...I give ya 5 bucks we'll hear from WBAP manager and citadel apologist Tyler Cox about how they were on top of the situation during the Stars broadcast last night as well....
 
Slambang said:
I agree...that isnt the best thing to do in cases of this nature...I give ya 5 bucks we'll hear from WBAP manager and citadel apologist Tyler Cox about how they were on top of the situation during the Stars broadcast last night as well....
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I was listening last night. WBAP blew out most of the Stars playoff game to go wall-to-wall on the storms. They had reporters covering the storms in the field and WFAA's Megan Denahey on with news anchor Bob Crowley for hours. WBAP pre-empted the entire first period of the Stars and much of the remainer of the game for storm coverage.

I listened to KRLD as well. Brad was there but they kept going back to baseball when I was listening.

That's what I heard FWIW.
 
I was pleased and a little surprised by WBAP's intense coverage, given that the Stars were in an important playoff game. At least KRLD doesn't ever have to worry about those kinds of things with the Rangers. ;D
 
Those weekly tests are required by law. There was no way to predict when or where the storms would hit or how hard they would hit at the time the tests were run. I was watching Viper radar all afternoon, and at the time the test was run, the front was slowly moving this direction from Childress, and the weather people still didn't know where it was headed. WBAP has Channel 8 and the Weather Channel working with us to keep us up to date.
I am the board op and have been informed by engineering about the protocol for running the tests, and we run them by the book.
Anybody who has ever work with/for Tyler knows he is a major market pro in every sense of the word.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
I was pleased and a little surprised by WBAP's intense coverage, given that the Stars were in an important playoff game. At least KRLD doesn't ever have to worry about those kinds of things with the Rangers. ;D
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ROFL. ;D
 
twidget said:
Those weekly tests are required by law. There was no way to predict when or where the storms would hit or how hard they would hit at the time the tests were run. I was watching Viper radar all afternoon, and at the time the test was run, the front was slowly moving this direction from Childress, and the weather people still didn't know where it was headed. WBAP has Channel 8 and the Weather Channel working with us to keep us up to date.
I am the board op and have been informed by engineering about the protocol for running the tests, and we run them by the book.
Anybody who has ever work with/for Tyler knows he is a major market pro in every sense of the word.
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I don’t believe you have a full grasp of the Rules and Regulationss for the EAS system.

Yes, the tests are required by law.

HOWEVER

1. Real EAS alerts are considered by the FCC as a substitute for weekly EAS tests.

2. The board ops at both KSCS and WBAP should have been allowed to scrub those tests, based on the radar images. The tests could have been easily rescheduled for the following day.

3. I don't believe most people consider 30 to 40 MPH to be a slow moving storm.

Andy
 
The bigger question is does anybody pay atention to them anymore? Think about it. We have been trained from an early age to ignore the long tone on the radio and/or TV. Most of us can recite the old EAS post script verbatim. I do agree, and in the past have scratched weekly tests with the apprval of the brass.

I think that whole EAS/Amber Alert plan needs to be looked at-right down to that crazy rig with all the buttons on it. My fat fingers alone could scare the hell out half of Houston before I figured out who to stop it.
 
-and speaking of fat fingers, they just pressed "post" instead of "preview" and my last thoughts went straight to the site without the benefit of spell check. Sorry. I recently had the Lap-BAND procedure, and hopefully my newer, more slender fingertips will not have these problems.
 
Holstead said:
The bigger question is does anybody pay atention to them anymore? Think about it. We have been trained from an early age to ignore the long tone on the radio and/or TV. Most of us can recite the old EAS post script verbatim. I do agree, and in the past have scratched weekly tests with the apprval of the brass.

I think that whole EAS/Amber Alert plan needs to be looked at-right down to that crazy rig with all the buttons on it. My fat fingers alone could scare the hell out half of Houston before I figured out who to stop it.
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Most dont, hence why ive suggested going to another sounder for Amber Alerts, the "Air Raid" thats used now is a joke because its been so missued, I say replace it with a spoken message
 
Andy, you are wrong, again. I said I consulted with the Chief Engineer and we run the tests by the book.
If I had skipped the test, and the storm didn't generate a warning, then I would have been in violation of FCC rules. At the time we ran the test, the storm wasn't for sure going to hit the Metroplex. This was the information we got from Channel 8 and the Weather Channel. The test was run in the 3 p.m. hour and the storms didn't hit the western parts of the metro until about 7 p.m. and decreased in intensity after they hit Arlington. I live in Arlington.
Do you have an axe to grind with WBAP or it's staff and management? You seem to pop up here with complaint after complaint.
 
twidget said:
Andy, you are wrong, again. I said I consulted with the Chief Engineer and we run the tests by the book.
If I had skipped the test, and the storm didn't generate a warning, then I would have been in violation of FCC rules. At the time we ran the test, the storm wasn't for sure going to hit the Metroplex. This was the information we got from Channel 8 and the Weather Channel. The test was run in the 3 p.m. hour and the storms didn't hit the western parts of the metro until about 7 p.m. and decreased in intensity after they hit Arlington. I live in Arlington.
Do you have an axe to grind with WBAP or it's staff and management? You seem to pop up here with complaint after complaint.
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Randy,

Your cluelessness is showing big time. The test ran at 4:55 PM on WBAP. That was less than half an hour before the storm alerts started rolling in for counties like Parker & Wise.

And if you had skipped the test, you would not have been in violation of anything. Tests are required once per week, and the storm came through on a Thursday.

I think what's really going on here, is you're the board op at WBAP, and you don't appreciate your judgement being called into question on a blog. If this is the case, you might want to rethink your approach, as you may be posting things about WBAP without approval.

Andy
 
You are misinformed. There is no way that EAS test was run at 4:55. You should check your clock. You made the same mistake earlier about the bottom of the hour national weathercast during the trucking show, too.
I could go round and round with you on this, but I have more important things to do. Best of luck to you!
 
twidget said:
You are misinformed. There is no way that EAS test was run at 4:55. You should check your clock. You made the same mistake earlier about the bottom of the hour national weathercast during the trucking show, too.
I could go round and round with you on this, but I have more important things to do. Best of luck to you!
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Since I work for an EAS Participating station, perhaps I should scan the EAS tape that shows when WBAP ran the test, and post it online.

Andy
 
I say post it andy, show the evidence and we'll make the end judgement
 
Slambang said:
I say post it andy, show the evidence and we'll make the end judgement
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Of course in doing that, it takes all the fun out of watching twidget squirm. ;D But yeah I probably will post it, unless Tyler himself posts a verification that they (WBAP) did indeed run the test at 4:55. I'm not holding my breath on it, though. :)

What I find really sad about this is that thanks to twidget, I can picture almost every single participating station pulling out their logs from last Thursday to verify my accuracy. Such an unfortunate waste of time for all of 'em.

Andy
 
If thats the case, it'll make people take notice.
 
I checked the log and I ran the test at 4:55 pm. So? That's when the network break came up. Are you familiar with the network clock? Engineering says to run it because we live in Texas, and there is no guarantee that the storms would generate EAS. By the time they got to Dallas, they were mostly spent.
I can only guess you got your nose out of joint was your Engineering Dept. runs the tests on Auto because they don't trust the operators. The Chief Engineer takes the hit if the operator fouls up the test. You might want to talk with your Chief about this.
Also, I might caution you against slams on blogs. It wouldn't be too hard to find out who you really are and where you work. Radio pros in this market are a pretty tight group, and you never know when you might need a job from someone you slammed, or one of his friends. They do check references!
This is my final word on the subject. Good luck in your broadcasting career!
Randy Williams
 
..and as the man says, its miller time :)
 
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