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WBAP Splits Evening Show
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edwardrmurrow
Guest
> From 6-8 will be syndicated host Mark Levin from WABC in New
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
>
Jerry Doyle needs to go back to "Babylon 5"
I told ya Gold would get in there some how..what a shock.
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
>
Jerry Doyle needs to go back to "Babylon 5"
I told ya Gold would get in there some how..what a shock.> From 6-8 will be syndicated host Mark Levin from WABC in New
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
I'm surprised a 7-hour old show from a fifth-tier talk host lasted a week. Too bad to see Mark Levin's marginal show (on delay) infecting WBAP... he's fine for WABC, but how about a little investment in your flamethrower heritage station? What's an evening host cost? Ah!
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
I'm surprised a 7-hour old show from a fifth-tier talk host lasted a week. Too bad to see Mark Levin's marginal show (on delay) infecting WBAP... he's fine for WABC, but how about a little investment in your flamethrower heritage station? What's an evening host cost? Ah!
M
morescrapple
Guest
> > From 6-8 will be syndicated host Mark Levin from WABC in
> New
> > York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually
> 8-10,
> > which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's
> future).
> >
> Jerry Doyle needs to go back to "Babylon 5" I told ya
> Gold would get in there some how..what a shock.
>
True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> New
> > York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually
> 8-10,
> > which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's
> future).
> >
> Jerry Doyle needs to go back to "Babylon 5"
I told ya> Gold would get in there some how..what a shock.
>
True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
A
AliceTheCook
Guest
Re: WBAP Splats Evening Shows
> True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this
> if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other
> consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
>
> Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
>
Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to embarrassing levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And considering the unstable political climate right now, I don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be more appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some people out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At least capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any calling card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of the commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of local listeners.
From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during Stars season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when necessary to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that reflects this downtime.
> True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this
> if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other
> consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
>
> Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
>
Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to embarrassing levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And considering the unstable political climate right now, I don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be more appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some people out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At least capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any calling card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of the commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of local listeners.
From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during Stars season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when necessary to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that reflects this downtime.
> >
> True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this
> if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other
> consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
>
> Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
>
Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC O & Os.
> True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than this
> if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No other
> consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
>
> Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
>
Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC O & Os.
Re: WBAP Splats Evening Shows
Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
> > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> this
> > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> other
> > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> >
> > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> >
>
> Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to embarrassing
> levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
> incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be more
> appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some people
> out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
>
> But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At least
> capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
> TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any calling
> card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of the
> commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> local listeners.
>
> From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during Stars
> season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when necessary
> to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> reflects this downtime.
>
Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
> > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> this
> > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> other
> > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> >
> > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> >
>
> Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to embarrassing
> levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
> incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be more
> appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some people
> out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
>
> But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At least
> capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
> TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any calling
> card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of the
> commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> local listeners.
>
> From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during Stars
> season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when necessary
> to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> reflects this downtime.
>
R
Rad10phile
Guest
Re: WBAP Splats Evening Shows
The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss Phil Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up in NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets re-broadcast at night on several stations.
Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since it's part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any local talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to be tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's on instead of the Stars.
> Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD
> of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he
> wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is
> making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
>
>
> > > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> >
> > Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> > anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to
> embarrassing
> > levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> > that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> > think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> > just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
>
> > incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> > considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> > don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> > daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> > Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be
> more
> > appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some
> people
> > out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
> >
> > But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At
> least
> > capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
>
> > TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any
> calling
> > card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of
> the
> > commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> > local listeners.
> >
> > From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during
> Stars
> > season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when
> necessary
> > to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> > 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> > reflects this downtime.
> >
>
The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss Phil Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up in NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets re-broadcast at night on several stations.
Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since it's part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any local talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to be tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's on instead of the Stars.
> Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD
> of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he
> wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is
> making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
>
>
> > > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> >
> > Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> > anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to
> embarrassing
> > levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> > that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> > think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> > just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
>
> > incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> > considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> > don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> > daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> > Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be
> more
> > appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some
> people
> > out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
> >
> > But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At
> least
> > capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
>
> > TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any
> calling
> > card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of
> the
> > commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> > local listeners.
> >
> > From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during
> Stars
> > season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when
> necessary
> > to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> > 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> > reflects this downtime.
> >
>
P
Phantom
Guest
Why is $60,000 or even less so terrible for a nighttime talk-show host?
> Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD
> of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he
> wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is
> making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
(one S and two Ps -- disappointing)
Why is $60,000 or even $40,000 so horrible for a talk show host?
Free market. If Gold will take it, why offer more?
Teachers make less, and who contributes more?
Yeah, I know. I know.
But not bad for two hours work and reading a bunch of right-wing newspapers and magazines.
And who really cares? 95 percent of people with radios on then are NOT listening to WBAP and David Gold.
But you are right about Levin. A trained parrot could not as well.
He is just horrible ... or worse.
> > > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> >
> > Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> > anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to
> embarrassing
> > levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> > that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> > think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> > just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
>
> > incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> > considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> > don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> > daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> > Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be
> more
> > appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some
> people
> > out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
> >
> > But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At
> least
> > capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
>
> > TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any
> calling
> > card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of
> the
> > commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> > local listeners.
> >
> > From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during
> Stars
> > season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when
> necessary
> > to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> > 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> > reflects this downtime.
> >
>
> Very poor programming..plain and simple. I thought the PD
> of that station was pretty good..I guess I was wrong, or he
> wasn't the guy who actually made the move. And yes, Gold is
> making under 60K. Very dissapointing...
(one S and two Ps -- disappointing)
Why is $60,000 or even $40,000 so horrible for a talk show host?
Free market. If Gold will take it, why offer more?
Teachers make less, and who contributes more?
Yeah, I know. I know.
But not bad for two hours work and reading a bunch of right-wing newspapers and magazines.
And who really cares? 95 percent of people with radios on then are NOT listening to WBAP and David Gold.
But you are right about Levin. A trained parrot could not as well.
He is just horrible ... or worse.
> > > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> >
> > Levin is a complete joke. He's just one of Hannity's
> > anointed sons who plays the patriotism game to
> embarrassing
> > levels. It's just unlistenable and downright silly, and
> > that voice approaches Pugs "quality." I really hate to
> > think who's out there that buys into this schlock. It's
> > just bad radio done VERY badly. At least Hannity TRIES to
>
> > incorporate some vague sincerity in his rants. And
> > considering the unstable political climate right now, I
> > don't think most people are going to warm up to Levin's
> > daily "pep rally" that sounds like it was written by Karl
> > Rove. Something mildly objective would be probably be
> more
> > appropriate, even for WBAP listeners. There ARE some
> people
> > out there who crave NEWS over SPIN.
> >
> > But why wouldn't you put your LOCAL host on first? At
> least
> > capture some of the drivetime audience, since most tune to
>
> > TV instead when they get home. If McNamara had any
> calling
> > card on the 6-9 shift, at least he could rope in some of
> the
> > commuters and give a local presence and take the pulse of
> > local listeners.
> >
> > From a cost-cutting angle, I can also see that during
> Stars
> > season, it'd be easy to cut off freebie Levin when
> necessary
> > to start the game. Management could simply tell Gold to
> > 'stay home' on those nights and negotiate a salary that
> > reflects this downtime.
> >
>
M
morescrapple
Guest
> > >
> > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> this
> > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> other
> > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> >
> > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> >
> Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and
> you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he
> was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC O
> & Os.
>
No way, I'll stick with my number, espec. since it's kicking off as an hour show and Gold's crappy track record.
> > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> this
> > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> other
> > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> >
> > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> >
> Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and
> you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he
> was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC O
> & Os.
>
No way, I'll stick with my number, espec. since it's kicking off as an hour show and Gold's crappy track record.
M
morescrapple
Guest
Re: Why is $60,000 or even less so terrible for a nighttime talk-show host?
>
> Why is $60,000 or even $40,000 so horrible for a talk show
> host?
>
> Free market. If Gold will take it, why offer more?
>
Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance again and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew that better than we do.
>
> And who really cares? 95 percent of people with radios on
> then are NOT listening to WBAP and David Gold.
>
will be more like 99%
>
>
> Why is $60,000 or even $40,000 so horrible for a talk show
> host?
>
> Free market. If Gold will take it, why offer more?
>
Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance again and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew that better than we do.
>
> And who really cares? 95 percent of people with radios on
> then are NOT listening to WBAP and David Gold.
>
will be more like 99%
>
M
morescrapple
Guest
Re: WBAP Splats Evening Shows
> The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure
> (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss Phil
> Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up in
> NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will
> put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from
> 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in
> competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets
> re-broadcast at night on several stations.
>
Funny Boyce has any clout left after the way WABC's been bombing.
> Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think
> that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since it's
> part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any local
> talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable
> for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to be
> tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David
> Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's
> on instead of the Stars.
>
Hell, it's market 5!!! There should be a number of live, local evening talk shows in the Metroplex!
> The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure
> (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss Phil
> Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up in
> NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will
> put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from
> 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in
> competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets
> re-broadcast at night on several stations.
>
Funny Boyce has any clout left after the way WABC's been bombing.
> Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think
> that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since it's
> part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any local
> talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable
> for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to be
> tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David
> Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's
> on instead of the Stars.
>
Hell, it's market 5!!! There should be a number of live, local evening talk shows in the Metroplex!
P
Phantom
Guest
> > > True costcutting in action. You couldn't do worse than
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> > Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and
> > you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he
>
> > was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC
> O
> > & Os.
> >
> No way, I'll stick with my number, espec. since it's kicking
> off as an hour show and Gold's crappy track record.
An ABC O&O ... big blanking deal.
I have no idea what Gold is getting ... or not getting.
But an O&O is no indication of big salaries.
Just ask some of the news anchors and/or reporters who are making less than $25,000 a year.
> > this
> > > if you tried. Gold for dirt cheap, Levin for free. No
> > other
> > > consideration. Probably paying Gold $40k tops.
> > >
> > > Amazing we're talking about WBAP being reduced to this.
> > >
> > Try putting a 1 in front of that $40K for David Gold and
> > you'll be a lot closer to the actual number. I told you he
>
> > was going to get the gig. Trust me on the pay-scale at ABC
> O
> > & Os.
> >
> No way, I'll stick with my number, espec. since it's kicking
> off as an hour show and Gold's crappy track record.
An ABC O&O ... big blanking deal.
I have no idea what Gold is getting ... or not getting.
But an O&O is no indication of big salaries.
Just ask some of the news anchors and/or reporters who are making less than $25,000 a year.
E
edwardrmurrow
Guest
> Just ask some of the news anchors and/or reporters who are
> making less than $25,000 a year.
..who are working on Lamar ave. In Arlington.
>
> making less than $25,000 a year.
..who are working on Lamar ave. In Arlington.
>
E
edwardrmurrow
Guest
Re: Why is $60,000 or even less so terrible for a nighttime talk-show host?
>>
> Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance again
> and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew that
> better than we do.
Your logic is flawed. If Gold is a "proven loser",then why was he asked many times over to substitute for Mark, and other prominent local talkers across the country? What were his numbers again at KLIF 20 years ago? What were they in the 90's? mmmmmm.. They were not slouchy. He made a goof in going to work at 990, and was promised alot along with others who worked there. He was taken like the others as well. David writes a lot of guest columns and is in demand. I am not fan of his by any means,but his track record is not all that bad.
>>
> Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance again
> and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew that
> better than we do.
Your logic is flawed. If Gold is a "proven loser",then why was he asked many times over to substitute for Mark, and other prominent local talkers across the country? What were his numbers again at KLIF 20 years ago? What were they in the 90's? mmmmmm.. They were not slouchy. He made a goof in going to work at 990, and was promised alot along with others who worked there. He was taken like the others as well. David writes a lot of guest columns and is in demand. I am not fan of his by any means,but his track record is not all that bad.
E
edwardrmurrow
Guest
Re: WBAP Splats Evening Shows
> > The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure
> > (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss
> Phil
> > Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up
> in
> > NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will
>
> > put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from
> > 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in
>
> > competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets
>
> > re-broadcast at night on several stations.
> >
>
> Funny Boyce has any clout left after the way WABC's been
> bombing.
>
> > Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think
> > that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since
> it's
> > part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any
> local
> > talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable
> > for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to
> be
> > tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David
> > Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's
>
> > on instead of the Stars.
> >
>
> Hell, it's market 5!!! There should be a number of live,
> local evening talk shows in the Metroplex!
>
Nah. The white geriatric callers who hate almost anything have an earlier bedtime with each passing year. They still love to listen to their Rangers no matter the record, or the Stars, or the Mavericks. They love to groan, bitch and wrap themselves in the flag during daylight hours only.
> > The PD of the station, Bob Shomper, is bowing to pressure
> > (or is just kissing up to the PD) from NY and big boss
> Phil
> > Boyce to put Levin on. That's what I hear from folks up
> in
> > NY. It's a payback of sorts -- now some ABC stations will
>
> > put Mark Davis on (he'll be delayed as well, put on from
> > 8-10 PM or something like it). Levin and Davis will be in
>
> > competition for affiliates with Neal Boortz, who also gets
>
> > re-broadcast at night on several stations.
> >
>
> Funny Boyce has any clout left after the way WABC's been
> bombing.
>
> > Where are the local talk shows after 6 PM? (You'd think
> > that last hour from 6-7 would count for something since
> it's
> > part of the ratings for afternoon drive.) Hardly any
> local
> > talk anywhere after 6 PM because it's just not profitable
> > for the radio stations. Very sad indeed. It's going to
> be
> > tough for the sales folks at WBAP to actually sell David
> > Gold's show, rather than just put on bonus spots when he's
>
> > on instead of the Stars.
> >
>
> Hell, it's market 5!!! There should be a number of live,
> local evening talk shows in the Metroplex!
>
Nah. The white geriatric callers who hate almost anything have an earlier bedtime with each passing year. They still love to listen to their Rangers no matter the record, or the Stars, or the Mavericks. They love to groan, bitch and wrap themselves in the flag during daylight hours only.
P
Phantom
Guest
> > Just ask some of the news anchors and/or reporters who are
>
> > making less than $25,000 a year.
>
>
> ..who are working on Lamar ave. In Arlington.
Yeah, I thought that was clear. Maybe not.
The anchors and reporters working for less than $25K at WBAP.
But that goes for KRLD as well.
Actually, KLIF is a little better for those people -- but not much.
>
> > making less than $25,000 a year.
>
>
> ..who are working on Lamar ave. In Arlington.
Yeah, I thought that was clear. Maybe not.
The anchors and reporters working for less than $25K at WBAP.
But that goes for KRLD as well.
Actually, KLIF is a little better for those people -- but not much.
A
AbsoluteTruth
Guest
And you think this is the new line-up because?
> From 6-8 will be syndicated host Mark Levin from WABC in New
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
>
Do you think this is the final line-up because it's on the website?
Inside information?
Confirmation of this comes from what source?
Bull-sh*t!
There have been a bunch of guest hosts. Some for a week, some for a day or two, and almost all of them have had picture & bio posted on the WBAP website. Have you all forgotten the massive over reaction to Julia Duffy?
Her picture and bio were posted and everyone freaked thinking she was the new host. People were posting tidbits of "inside information" on who she was and how she got the job. And everyone that did that turned out to be WRONG!
I don't think the new host will be announced until the book starts near the end of the month. And even then it may not be a done deal. Keep in mind that this is the shift that is cut all to pieces for ball games.
> From 6-8 will be syndicated host Mark Levin from WABC in New
> York, then David Gold will be on from 8-9 (eventually 8-10,
> which does not bode well for the Jerry Doyle show's future).
>
Do you think this is the final line-up because it's on the website?
Inside information?
Confirmation of this comes from what source?
Bull-sh*t!
There have been a bunch of guest hosts. Some for a week, some for a day or two, and almost all of them have had picture & bio posted on the WBAP website. Have you all forgotten the massive over reaction to Julia Duffy?
Her picture and bio were posted and everyone freaked thinking she was the new host. People were posting tidbits of "inside information" on who she was and how she got the job. And everyone that did that turned out to be WRONG!
I don't think the new host will be announced until the book starts near the end of the month. And even then it may not be a done deal. Keep in mind that this is the shift that is cut all to pieces for ball games.
Re: And you think this is the new line-up because?
> Do you think this is the final line-up because it's on the
> website?
> Inside information?
> Confirmation of this comes from what source?
>
> Bull-sh*t!
Sorry, my source is the WBAP Program Director, who announced the changes on Mark Davis' show on Monday morning. You can't a more authoritative source than the man who makes the decisions for the station.
> Do you think this is the final line-up because it's on the
> website?
> Inside information?
> Confirmation of this comes from what source?
>
> Bull-sh*t!
Sorry, my source is the WBAP Program Director, who announced the changes on Mark Davis' show on Monday morning. You can't a more authoritative source than the man who makes the decisions for the station.
M
morescrapple
Guest
Re: Why is $60,000 or even less so terrible for a nighttime talk-show host?
> >>
> > Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance
> again
> > and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew
> that
> > better than we do.
> Your logic is flawed. If Gold is a "proven loser",then why
> was he asked many times over to substitute for Mark, and
> other prominent local talkers across the country? What were
> his numbers again at KLIF 20 years ago? What were they in
> the 90's? mmmmmm.. They were not slouchy. He made a goof in
> going to work at 990, and was promised alot along with
> others who worked there. He was taken like the others as
> well. David writes a lot of guest columns and is in demand.
> I am not fan of his by any means,but his track record is not
> all that bad.
>
He's a retread's retread. You're joking, right?
> >>
> > Gold's a proven loser in DFW market. Poor performance
> again
> > and again. He'd take whatever they gave him, they knew
> that
> > better than we do.
> Your logic is flawed. If Gold is a "proven loser",then why
> was he asked many times over to substitute for Mark, and
> other prominent local talkers across the country? What were
> his numbers again at KLIF 20 years ago? What were they in
> the 90's? mmmmmm.. They were not slouchy. He made a goof in
> going to work at 990, and was promised alot along with
> others who worked there. He was taken like the others as
> well. David writes a lot of guest columns and is in demand.
> I am not fan of his by any means,but his track record is not
> all that bad.
>
He's a retread's retread. You're joking, right?
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