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WBCN RATINGS SOLUTION

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LoveFist

I've been listening to Toucher and Rich on BCN for the past few days now every afternoon on my way home.

I admit, they're not bad. I've laughed at a good ammount of their bits. But with BCN's ratings in the toilet, the PD needs to tell these guys to shut the f%*k up! I listenend today to TWO ten minute breaks about how they are going to be playing a Beverly Hills 90210 drinking game tonight. It was totally self-serving and offered nothing to the listener.

BCN's TSL is in the toilet, thus the low numbers. You want to increase TSL??? Tell your jocks to zip it and try to play more than 4 songs an hour durring PM drive!
 
It really is true. Anyone listening to XM radio or Sirius (can we take: THE WHO CHANNEL? oh please... What's the point of having an All Rolling Stones channel when you can put in your favorite Stones CDs anyway...)

But...WBCN has to factor in Satellite radio. As Parenteau said "It is going to be like a ship coming out of the fog." He was right. Dave Wellington should re-hire Mark.

That being said, WBCN has to take Satellite radio more seriously than just picking up its morning drive from that medium. WBCN used to be the leader, not the follower. I'm talking about the good old pre-Oedi, pre-Tony days when Tommy Hadges and Charles and Buffalo and the rest reigned supreme. It's heading back to that.

Toucher & Rich are better suited to 9-noon on WRKO. If Baseball teams trade, why not radio stations?

Trade Toucher & Rich to WRKO and pick up their ex-jock Parenteau for afternoon drive.
 
Varulven said:
It really is true. Anyone listening to XM radio or Sirius (can we take: THE WHO CHANNEL? oh please... What's the point of having an All Rolling Stones channel when you can put in your favorite Stones CDs anyway...)

But...WBCN has to factor in Satellite radio. As Parenteau said "It is going to be like a ship coming out of the fog." He was right. Dave Wellington should re-hire Mark.

That being said, WBCN has to take Satellite radio more seriously than just picking up its morning drive from that medium. WBCN used to be the leader, not the follower. I'm talking about the good old pre-Oedi, pre-Tony days when Tommy Hadges and Charles and Buffalo and the rest reigned supreme. It's heading back to that.

Toucher & Rich are better suited to 9-noon on WRKO. If Baseball teams trade, why not radio stations?

Trade Toucher & Rich to WRKO and pick up their ex-jock Parenteau for afternoon drive.
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That's a great idea--put a convicted degenerate and a known sodomite on PMD.

I have no pity at all for Parenteau, as he is a deviant--but that his only friend in the world is Viglione, that's really got to hurt.
 
What Mark was convicted of was not "sodomy", but your gay slurs are noted.

Mr. Parenteau has a friend in the Comedy Connection and many people in the community that aren't as hateful as you. He paid his debt to society - Jesus taught that everyone deserves a second chance.

Obviously "Ron Jippey" wants to impress his views on everyone that forgiveness is a bad thing. There's someone who will accept your point of view - his name is Osama Bin Laden.
 
Varulven said:
What Mark was convicted of was not "sodomy", but your gay slurs are noted.

Mr. Parenteau has a friend in the Comedy Connection and many people in the community that aren't as hateful as you. He paid his debt to society - Jesus taught that everyone deserves a second chance.

Obviously "Ron Jippey" wants to impress his views on everyone that forgiveness is a bad thing. There's someone who will accept your point of view - his name is Osama Bin Laden.
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The police report stated, by the statement of the child involved, that Parenteau sodomized him. Whether or not he was convicted of that charge is irrelevant.

You seem to think that defending this pervert is controversial, but in fact, it only illustrates how desperate you are for any attention. Understandable as you haven't had a paying job in radio in 20 years.
 
LoveFist said:
BCN's TSL is in the toilet, thus the low numbers. You want to increase TSL??? Tell your jocks to zip it and try to play more than 4 songs an hour durring PM drive!
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How about cutting the spot load so the audience can grow? I want personality in the afternoon on my rock stations, not a liner card reader.

TSL is down because Alice in Chains and Nirvana are at the top of the artists pile, and yet BCN only plays a handful of their songs.

A friend of mine who's not in the business mentioned to me between AAF and BCN he heard Smells like Teen Spirit twice in the morning on the way in, and twice again on the way out. Endless song repetition is not a way to build TSL!
 
I disagree Smoke. I'm sure BCN spends zillions a year on music tests and call-out. If they're playing Smells Like Teen Spirit, it's because it's a high-tester. It's not the "tight" playlist that's killing them. (I don't even find it to be that tight). All the yapping is killing them.

De-crease the spot-load on a strugglingradio station??? Good luck explaining that one to corporate!

"Uh yeah, I know we're getting our asses kicked and revenue is down because of the numbers, but we actually want to cut the ammount of spots so that you can sell less and make even less $$$$."

That's phone call that would get someone fired.
 
Every time tried to listen to T&R on BCN, all I heard was some guy singing along with game show themes. It wasn't even funny, or entertaining, once. By the fourth time they had chased me away for good.
 
I would say if it wern't for the Patriots games,I would totally stractch the format and start anew perhaps with new call letters.

I could see a non rap rhythum based format on 104.1 ,but not plqaying Pats games.
 
Oh Lucylu, you know you've been a Toucher hater since his days at 99X. So were you listening to T&R while circling 285 trying to find the Campbellton Rd exit or did you actually try to catch them off of the stream. Frankly, I don't think you listen at all and just take every opportunity to put him down. Me, I miss Fred here in Atlanta and I do listen when I'm in the office in the afternoon. I wish Cumulus would have let him have more free reign with Wally and brought Rich in as a co-host. Now that would have been a very good morning show.
 
I have no idea what this 99X is you speak of; I've give them a fair chance here in Boston and I think they suck out loud. The bad singing, the cheap Kenny Rogerson rip off, the giggle-giggle-gafaaaaa-We're-drunk-isn't-that-cool? school of radio just doesn't float my boat. Outside of Pembroke Hospital, I'm not sure it would float anyone else's boat either. I'm sure the numbers will bear me out, but who knows?
 
It really is true. Anyone listening to XM radio or Sirius (can we take: THE WHO CHANNEL? oh please... What's the point of having an All Rolling Stones channel when you can put in your favorite Stones CDs anyway...)

But...WBCN has to factor in Satellite radio. As Parenteau said "It is going to be like a ship coming out of the fog." He was right. Dave Wellington should re-hire Mark.

That being said, WBCN has to take Satellite radio more seriously than just picking up its morning drive from that medium. WBCN used to be the leader, not the follower. I'm talking about the good old pre-Oedi, pre-Tony days when Tommy Hadges and Charles and Buffalo and the rest reigned supreme. It's heading back to that.

Toucher & Rich are better suited to 9-noon on WRKO. If Baseball teams trade, why not radio stations?

Trade Toucher & Rich to WRKO and pick up their ex-jock Parenteau for afternoon drive.


You cant be serious? youre stuck in a land that time forgot but Mark Parenteau could not get ratings ten years ago so he was fired then, what in the world could ever make you think that it would be a good idea to re hire him now?. Now that he is older and less in touch, and now a convicted sex offender? who would ever listen to that?. People who post it about you are right, you really are crazy the way you think about radio today entirely based on you're being stuck in yesterday!.
 
as cool, hip, under-25 brooklynite williamsburger, i can say that no one in the states has any idea what is cutting edge in rock anymore. the 10 year cycle was supposed to go new wave in like 2000 instead it went active rock again after 10 years of active rock (forget what the critics dubbed alice in chains, smashing pumpins and soundgarden and pearl jam they are classic rock bands). infinity flocked it up, and for that reason, rock radio is dying across the county If WBCN wanted ratings they'd have Nik Carter voice track and do his white bread version of the michael baisden show....or they'd go supper deep indie alt and wait 4 years for the money to follow. Pats are pricey any way you look at it.

How long to BCN loses the pats?
 
I don't feel sorry for BCN, and hope they die a slow death!
They have no vision or focus....if this doesn't work, lets try this and if that doesn't work, lets try something different.
I will never forgive them for doing away with the old format back in the early 90's.
Back then, Oedipus called their present format (semi-AOR) stale/ boring...so what are they now?? It's an insult when they play...say...Led Zeppelin 'Rock & Roll' now... what's the sense. Nirvana certainly isn't cutting edge anymore either....I'm not sure it ever was.
Putting (you fill in the blank) on the air doesn't make a difference anymore, when the content sucks!
 
Oedipus is not programming them anymore so whatever he called their old aor format does nto matter.
 
I liked the rock revolution, I grew up listening to the rock revolution. Offspring, Smashing Pumpkins, Nine Inch Nails, Bush, Nirvana (unplugged particularly) , Oasis, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Radiohead, and then No Doubt, Sublime, the Mighty Mighty Bostones...

the rock revolution was strong until one day in 1998, when I heard a little off key strumming followed by an off key singer started singing "Well I guess it would be nice..." limp bizkit destroyed Rock and Roll, and why??? because they paid to get their song on the radio (KUFO in portland in 1997 with counterfit). Active rock was back, and so were the kids buying Limp Bizkit, korn, and other horrible bands (Saliva, Drowning pool, and Disturbed come to mind). WBCN scared away its college educated (aka urban and outer suburb aka upperclass) audience, instead picked up the dorchester, braintree, quincy, weymouth (aka inner suburb and rural audience aka poor white trash) audience listening to x-treme FNX at the time, and in the process they destroyed the station. Then came along Nu-Metal and also eminem, cypress hill, and outkast.

rock as format is dead, young adults these days listen to a good mix of rap, rock, house, pop, basically the format mtv forcefed us for a lifetime. Jack FM here in new york seems to do a good job mixing it up, but for a slightly older demo group. A younger geared jack-fm station would be ideal if BCN were to change formats. More rap, newer rock, no talk, lots of commercials. pats on Sunday.
 
Hey Brooklyn rock is far from dead. All you have to do is look at the number of rock bands that have crossed over to CHR, or look at delivery systems such as myspace which just formed it's own label because so many bands have issued their music via the site. Rock is not dead the format in it's current guise is in trouble for sure but it is far from dead. Also when you speak as a 24 year old hipster remember you're not really the guy that the advertisers want because t you're not the guy who can afford a Lexus. And living in Williamsburg does not make you a "hipster" my young cousin lives there. Its the same as living in Allston. All it means is you cant afford Manhattan or the back bay!.

:D
 
hey, at least Boston still has an alternative rock station. that's more than a lot of east coast cities can say :-(
I'd like to see a classic alternative rock station develop ... one that focuses in the early/mid 90s and throws in some new stuff here and there (like the Raconteurs, Wolfmother, Beck, Jet, Keane, The Killers, Muse, etc.). I think it could work, if given a chance.
 
I can afford a lexus thank you very much, living here was a lifestyle choice.

Sure it was ::)

and i hear all my new music from myspace now

You're proving my point I said rock is far from dead its just got different delivery systems like MYSPACE and here you are confirming that. BUt not everyone only wants to hear unsigned indie bands, there are still people who just want the hits.
 
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