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WBFO Comes Up Short

Rox makes a real world point of WBFO seemingly depending on (and perhaps targeting) contributions of Canadian listeners to fill in the membership gap.

If they're like most public broadcasters, they'll look carefully at the membership data. If they are getting more memberships from Canada, then they will target more to them. They may view this as a revenue collection problem, in which case they'll become more aggressive in the ways they pitch for members. It depends on when they received the the majority of their contributions. It's normally a carrot & stick thing. You want to hear the rest of ATC? Then call now.
 
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That's a reasonable point. Since 7% is the average, you'd like to think WBFO would research what stations are doing 10% or higher to determine how they reached and exceeded their membership goals.

There are a few major issues at hand relative to WBFO attempting to draw more Canadians into the listener and membership mix. First: Altering the programming to suit the needs of Canadian listeners will very likely (adversely) alter the number of listeners on this side of the border. Second: The CBC provides a consistent quality product to serve the needs of Canadians far better than anything WBFO can offer. Third: Technology, specifically the NPR app which allows for greater flexibility, time shifting and personalization. It's quite impressive, one of the finer radio apps. Equally of concern, how the NPR app has affected the way people listen (or don't) to radio, specifically WBFO, and by extension how they contribute (or don't) to WBFO.

Although Channel 17 draws a substantial number of Canadian viewers and members, TV viewing and radio listening are an entirely different kettle of fish. Interests differ, listening habits and needs differ, and the approach to programming differs.

Those of us who live here understand that Canada isn't "the 51st state," but a unique, sovereign nation with customs and interests that don't necessarily mirror those "across the border." The United States couldn't have a better neighbor. Many issues and interests unique to Canada simply don't translate and Canadians understandably wouldn't want them to be "Americanized."

For example, Canada's parliamentary form of government, pronunciations and terminology... eh. Pronounce "lieutenant" or "schedule." Canadians don't go on vacation, they "go on holiday." This is the tip of the iceberg. Seemingly small, these are important reasons, among many far larger, why WBFO runs a risk attempting to appeal, serve and depend on listeners in Southern Ontario. Most Canadians like being our neighbor, but they don't like being told "how it's done in the States." Oh... and the programming WBFO offers to appeal to Canadians can be heard on the CBC stations in real time.

Canadian radio and TV offer a different perspective than US media, in most cases, refreshing and having a certain European flavor. Log on to CBC.ca to get a taste. Canadian radio talk shows, for example, are not nearly as bombastic as those heard on commercial talk stations. Issues are fervently discussed, but not shouted upon. And most Canadian radio talk show hosts present themselves in a presentable, reasoned and almost collegial manner. That's not to say they're vanilla. They're fiercely opinionated, but well-reasoned. WBFO would best be served by doing the many things it does right and programming primarily if not exclusively to US listeners.
 
I just find it interesting that some people complain about the declining amount of news on WBEN or the lack of alternative outlets for discussion on the radio. Here's a station that's doing some local news, and airing some different points of view. It's attracting an audience, but only a fraction of that audience is willing to contribute money towards maintaining that format. I wonder what would happen if WBEN asked its audience for contributions rather than operated with advertising. How many people would contribute for local news and talk. It goes back to something Lee Abrams talked about when they were starting XM 15 or so years ago. He imagined radio worth paying for. What would qualify as radio worth paying for, and how much would you be willing to pay to get it? Discuss.

As the number of reporters on WBEN continues to increase, so does the amount of news. I would probably make a contribution if I wanted to continue hearing the latest news and Buffalo's greatest talk. IF I listened to WBFO and wanted to continue hearing whatever it is they play (I couldn't tell what was on on Saturday), then I would contribute to them as well. Maybe the listeners just don't care if they continue to hear WBFO or not. Or it put them to sleep.
 
The number of reporters on WBEN has increased? The amount of news has increased? Somebody better tell their website.

E9 makes salient observations about WBFO programming to Canadians. Repeating CBC content which is already available on better signals on the Niagara peninsula is folly. WNYPB worked out a deal for cable TV in Toronto to rebroadcast WBFO's signal. They had a pipe dream that people in Toronto would tune WBFO in on their TVs as they do PBS content. They really don't get the idea that radio and TV are different.

The programming changes made at WBFO after the sale to WNYPB are simply coming home to roost. WNYPB boasts that it "doesn't pay attention to ratings". That's fine, but they'd better pay attention to revenue if they want to keep paying mega-salaries to those at the top in the broadcast palace.
 
The number of reporters on WBEN has increased? The amount of news has increased? Somebody better tell their website.


Absolutely. There are three relatively new reporters, and a fourth not listed on their site. There is now Saturday afternoon news again after a 2-3 year hiatus.
 
Absolutely. There are three relatively new reporters, and a fourth not listed on their site. There is now Saturday afternoon news again after a 2-3 year hiatus.

I don't see anybody new on their site, and I'm not interested enough to put up with the programming to find out if you're right or not. If they can't list reporters along with their "Newsroom Staff", then I'll never know who they are.

"Kathy from Williamsville" should be available again for weekends by late tomorrow.
 
Isn't WBEN the station that employs someone who thinks
The CIA is watching him and are using special shoes that don't leave
Footprints in the snow??
Is Stephen Colbert one of the "new" hires.???
 
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I don't see anybody new on their site, and I'm not interested enough to put up with the programming to find out if you're right or not. If they can't list reporters along with their "Newsroom Staff", then I'll never know who they are.

I don't know what to tell you. I just told you they aren't listed there, I checked myself. They still are on the air every week. If you don't listen, then you don't need to know who they are anyway.
 
I don't know what to tell you. I just told you they aren't listed there, I checked myself. They still are on the air every week. If you don't listen, then you don't need to know who they are anyway.

Heck, they could be interns, or stringers for that matter, if management doesn't consider them important enough to be on the website. I guess that tells us how much stock WBEN puts in its news staff.
 
Heck, they could be interns, or stringers for that matter, if management doesn't consider them important enough to be on the website. I guess that tells us how much stock WBEN puts in its news staff

Or rather how much stock they put in their web site. That's a big problem with some radio companies. They're not investing in their online presence. It's a big mistake.
 
Or rather how much stock they put in their web site. That's a big problem with some radio companies. They're not investing in their online presence. It's a big mistake.

Yes, I've never seen much reason to go to a radio station website. Maybe someday stations will figure out it could be a way to reach out to people on a more personal level.
 
Yes, I've never seen much reason to go to a radio station website. Maybe someday stations will figure out it could be a way to reach out to people on a more personal level.

Lots of stations have figured it out. In fact, in some places, the radio news website is the most visited source of news in town, greater than TV or newspaper. But not in Buffalo. Too bad.
 
Their website isn't ignored. It's updated multiple time daily. If they're not posting the names of reporters, it's not likely a simple oversight. That's what makes me think that they may not be regular full-time station staffers.
 
Rusty forgot the <sarcasm> tag. Probably less bodies than ever at WBEN, with full-time staff replaced by part-timers and stringers. Tough to applaud that.
 
Here we go again.
Rusty forgot the <sarcasm> tag. Probably less bodies than ever at WBEN, with full-time staff replaced by part-timers and stringers. Tough to applaud that.
Out of the four not listed, 2 are full time I would assume. The other two I would assume to be employees since they are both anchors the same day, every week.
with full-time staff replaced by part-timers and stringers. Tough to applaud that.
Actually, a part timer replaced another part timer who did his job 5 hours a week, while the new part timer is doing the same and then "stringing" (if that's the case) at additional times. And then another part timer added for a time slot that had no news (or just CBS news). But I guess you would know better listening to the station. And I'm not quite sure why part time or stringers would be underestimated as to the quality of their newscasts. One appears to be a News Director and Host of his own show on another station in Jamestown other appears to be an Anchor on a station in Batavia.
 
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