Do you and CTListener opine and complain on this board, or is it just me?
It's just you.
Do you and CTListener opine and complain on this board, or is it just me?
So, the only question to be asked right now is "why was no attempt to cover the storm in alternative fashion not evidenced on the air?"
No offense was taken, nor do I disagree. It was just so detailed, I thought you had inside knowledge. I'm a big believer in severe storm coverage, whether winter or summer. We have it in great volume in Chicago on both radio and TV. Good luck when you chat with your pals. Have a great – and snowless as much as possible – new year.Point well-taken, tvnut.
I’m not sure my “help” would be considered, but I certainly plan to inquire with the two with whom I’m friends. Neither individual works at the stations, but merely hold Trustee positions.
Do you and CTListener opine and complain on this board, or is it just me?
Of course, there’s certainly no requirement to read my “dissertation.” Admittedly, not written with respect to today’s attention spans, as my children and colleagues have often pointed out (laugh).
You may agree or disagree, but is that not what a discussion board is about?
I find healthy discussion to be an engagement of thought, and I do happen to have passion for things of this sort. If you find that objectionable, I’m sorry to offend your sensibilities and encourage you to scroll past my posts with no offence taken.
While I am familiar with the operation through various channels over many years, I have no direct affiliation with it and I certainly didn’t mean to imply that I do. These two individuals happen to be friends. As well, they aren’t carrying microphones and filing stories, to be sure. They might simply pat me on the head and tell me to bug out.
I simply was quite surprised and disappointed to see such a major lapse.
Seems my comments are disagreeable to you. Your on-point comment that I should take my opinions to them, is certainly quite fair, reasonable and appreciated.
May I respectfully ask you and CTListener for your actual learned thoughts on the matter at hand?
Who assumes I’m a “he?” (humour)
Bingo!!!As I said before, "Again. Again. We don't know why things like this were not done. Obviously, human error, lack of operating equipment, lack of training, unavailable staff and similar things come to mind but we don't know yet what the reason was."
An evaluation has to start with "who was in command" at the time the storm was building up and what did they do to prepare? Someone, was responsible. If that person was unavailable because they were on a Summer cruise to Antarctica, who was their delegate?
Someone had to have been responsible for a decision to kill the national feed and go local... and why didn't they do that?
If a station does not have a captain, then there is an internal management problem. Whether they could have fed audio from other locations or tried to seek alternate origination facilities is all logistics that affect implementing a management decision as to how to cover the storm.
So, the only question to be asked right now is "why was an attempt to cover the storm in alternative fashion not evidenced on the air?"
Thank you for your thoughtful and gracious response.No offense was taken, nor do I disagree. It was just so detailed, I thought you had inside knowledge. I'm a big believer in severe storm coverage, whether winter or summer. We have it in great volume in Chicago on both radio and TV. Good luck when you chat with your pals. Have a great – and snowless as much as possible – new year.
Dear CTListener.With regard to my expectations for storm coverage -- as a listener with a background in print, not radio -- I admit that the local NPR affiliate is not where I think of looking for information first. Back in Connecticut, my home for 40 years until late 2021, if my internet service was out, I'd dust off the portable radio and check out WTIC(AM). After that ... I don't know. Maybe I'd scan the AM and FM dials and see if anyone else was saying anything about the weather. Maybe I'd call friends and co-workers (I had a landline right to the end.) and check with them. Or maybe I'd just light a few candles, walk around with a flashlight and look out the window once in a while.
If I wouldn't think of NPR first in urban Connecticut, I wouldn't think of it at all here in rural Vermont. The local stations are WVPR in Windsor and WNCH in Norwich, but "local" programming on both comes from Colchester, near Burlington, on the other side of the state, and weather here seldom resembles weather there. News programming on WVPR, outside of the national morning and afternoon shows, consists of thoughtful political coverage and feature stories about quirky Vermont history, people and places, not breaking weather news. WNCH broadcasts no news at all, just classical music 24/7 on weekdays and various other genres along with classical on weekends, much of it from those Burlington-area studios. So when we have a storm brewing, I stock up on food and emergency supplies in the preceding days, then just stay home and wait out the weather. Maybe I'll turn on the radio and listen to WNCH, or one of the country stations. Maybe I'll just head to bed. It's not a particularly exciting lifestyle, and I have no desire to complicate it any more than necessary by worrying about nature. Sorry, Vermont Public Radio. I didn't care about what you were doing when the storm was going on, and I'm not going to blame you for not being there to provide information that I wouldn't have any need for in the first place, given that I was not driving or otherwise placing myself in danger.
Perhaps an alternate question as well:Someone had to have been responsible for a decision to kill the national feed and go local... and why didn't they do that?
And behind that question is another situation. It is all to frequent today to have station management that has no knowledge at all of technical operations.Perhaps an alternate question as well:
Someone had to have been responsible for making a decision to call in newsroom staff to work on a holiday, probably at enhanced pay (time-and-a-half or double-time)
Weather conditions and travel bans would have made it problematic for any staff to get to the station. It's been noted that the studio was flooded anyway. David pointed out that no one may have been available (or knew how) to gain remote access.Perhaps an alternate question as well:
Someone had to have been responsible for making a decision to call in newsroom staff to work on a holiday, probably at enhanced pay (time-and-a-half or double-time)
But there has to be backup staff for emergencies. The question is whether there was a failure in the chain of command or a poorly called decision.Whew! This has been quite a discussion! I suspect that the answer is simpler. It was a holiday weekend, and nobody was scheduled to be at the station. When the Morning Edition crew left, the automation took over. By the time anyone realized that this was an extraordinary storm, unlike any of those we've seen since the Blizzard of '77, it was too late. There was nobody in the building minding the store.
That is possible, but the question raised here is whether the station could have operated remotely from other locations, including home locations which some have assumed were used during the pandemic.s who were in the same locations for the bulk of the storm.WBFO wasn't the only Buffalo station in that situation. Most of the commercial stations played merrily on with their automation. Once the storm began Friday morning, you simply couldn't get to the station to change the course of events. In many cases, the people who may have been able to remotely access systems were busy fighting their own battles with power or other storm-related issues, including family issues. NOBODY was going anywhere between Friday morning and sometime on Sunday.
And, as suggested, if the facility is flooded, as it was, are there no backup plans for such emergencies? Anything from blizzards to floods to fires or even some kind of police evacuation can force a station to originate somewhere else.Overall, I suspect that everything would have been different if the storm didn't begin on a holiday weekend when no on-site staff was scheduled. Perhaps the biggest lesson WNYPB needs to learn is that the building should NEVER be unattended. A single competent staffer on-site could have made a world of different, not just from a broadcasting perspective, but also may have been able to reduce the damage that came from a major failure of their plumbing system. They're also not the only broadcasters in town who need to pay attention to that idea.
Yes, this should be a made into a case study for preparedness for stations that have a news and information position in their market.One more thing. This could be a glimpse into just how effectively broadcast radio in general is prepared to respond to a major disaster, and not just in the Buffalo market. BTW, there was also little or no warning via cell phone for this storm. That's also something that needs to be looked at, and again, in a much larger context.
And your point that, once the storm began, it was too late to "call in" staff, is quite valid. Either management failed to consider that the storm warnings might require staffing to be ready in advance or they did not want to make the expense when, perhaps, it would end up not being needed.Weather conditions and travel bans would have made it problematic for any staff to get to the station. It's been noted that the studio was flooded anyway. David pointed out that no one may have been available (or knew how) to gain remote access.
I'm not sure what the benefit of "round the clock" storm coverage would have provided anyway. People knew about the forecast days in advance. How many times can you tell people "Don't travel in a Blizzard"? Since it was a holiday weekend, most people should have been prepared to shelter in place at home...
Something is awry at the institution, and the silence from within along with the disingenuous (and arguably untruthful) response from the “spokesperson” speak alarming volumes.
The silence is deafening.
Actually, Buffalo is a dairy market and he’s right.By "in advance" I meant months and years with the appropriate budgeting, planning, installation and training. I did not mean, "oh, a storm is coming so we gotta' put something together". For most of the needs, that is too late.
Yes, but the systems, "synchronized software" and things like passwords and access permissions need to be done in advance. In every case you mention, a system was in place long before it was needed.
Again, the software and connectivity have to be set up in advance and the people who are available to do reports or live broadcasts from home or another location need to have systems in place in advance.
That is my point. You need the equipment, installation at possible needed locations or on portable devices like laptops or even cellphones, and training.... and training refreshers and updates.
Not necessarily. Tech has changed immensely in 12 years, with nearly all stations moving from analog audio moving through wires to digital audio moving through optical systems. If they either did not yet update, or did not train on an update, it is as good as not having the system at all.
Last I checked, radios have a thing called a "dial" and people can look quite easily for a station that is covering news. There is no need to have every station covering this kind of event, particularly since the staff at most stations is neither trained nor qualified to do anything except take calls with "how much snow is in your driveway now?" type conversations.
In this case, we are talking about a station that did not have another "sister" station. It's an NPR station, and what we don't know is what prevented them from going "all in" to cover this storm. It may be as simple as "nobody was in town and available to set things in motion" to some kind of facilities issue like "no power at the studios and the genny would not start".
The station is probably not supported by listeners for its breaking news coverage but for its breadth of national NPR product as well as local origination.
This was not a "breaking news" station. It's a local NPR affiliate which appears to have been either ill-prepared for a huge weather event on a weekend or which had internal technical or staffpower issues that impeded doing anything significant. Until we know "the rest of the story" it is hard to place blame on anyone.
Not every station is prepared for "first response". In fact, knowing this the EAS is set up to activate even if many stations are unmanned at night and on weekends... while most have no newspeople on the staff qualified to do anything original anyway.
They are obviously better prepared. And whatever system they had, it worked.
Perhaps they are trying to figure out what went wrong. And that means not blaming past failures but looking on how to make sure this is not repeated. Of course, this is a storm not seen for nearly a half-century so they may simply have been overwhelmed.
Again, we don't know why the station could not do this. It may have been an inability to connect "outsiders" with the studio, or issues at the studio that prevented live broadcasts. Or something else entirely. We don't yet know.
Again. Again. We don't know why things like this were not done. Obviously, human error, lack of operating equipment, lack of training, unavailable staff and similar things come to mind but we don't know yet what the reason was.
The station may have been on autopilot. I've been in stations that were evacuated due to bombs, fire alarms, hostage-taking guerrillas, earthquake damage and hurricanes and the like where the automation was running and "lights were on but nobody was home".
Not if they can't get "into" the system. It's unknown what happened, so this is just conjecture now.
If systems were down, the simple answer is "nothing".
Storms have nothing to do with the political philosophy of talk hosts. Let's not get off on a tangent when the simple question is, "what happened that prevented them from doing storm coverage when many think that such a station should have immediately focused on that issue?"
“Most businesses are closed between December 24 and tomorrow.” WBFO is a NEWS station not just “some business” and ran an NPR feed for four days straight and did nothing on line or on social!
“Non-radio people” actually ARE the ones who fill out diaries and they are based on RECALL. It is absolutely about what they “remember!!!”To ROCH 989 --
OK, so the station chose not to cover the storm during the Christmas Eve/Day weekend. Most Non Radio people probably didn't care and won't remember anyway. Some folks are complaining because CNN was reporting on the death toll days later (as it somehow makes Buffalo look bad yet again). It seems like there is no middle ground on what the right approach should be.
You say anonymous staffers told you the environment is toxic. I would wager the same toxicity exists at Audacy. None of that matters. WBFO made their decision and perhaps it was wrong. I still submit that "round the clock" storm coverage would have been overkill and not useful...
I saw that too. An NFTA tweet, which WBFO retweeted more than an hour later when Monday afternoon finally rolled around. On top of things. Excellent!I made that comment in response to a post asking why station management hasn't explained anything beyond what they told Pergament. The office staff is different from the news staff. If you go to the website, it also says the offices are closed because of the burst pipe. The news department opened a file on the storm "Winter Storm Elliot", and online coverage began Monday 12/26. Also lots of posts on their Twitter site starting Monday December 26. Updates on roads and the airport. Lots of pictures. So other than Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, the coverage was what you'd expect.