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WBLM vs Frank

> > > If Frank has another slide in the ratings, perhaps they
> > > should switch back to being jockless. People seemed to
> > like
> > > it better that way.
> >
> >
> > let's not forget they were also COMMERCIAL free not just
> > jock free ... i don't think frank's inoffensive jocks
> cause
> > many people to tune out.
> >
>
> I love your word choice. "Inoffensive." This is merely
> another way of saying "bland," "samey" and "liner-card
> readers." Did you mean one of these, or were you suggesting
> that the FCC would never be beating down their door?
>
> Bottom line, all the jocks do are repeat the same "9 noon
> and 5" crap that the imaging already establishes. Can you
> honestly remember ANYTHING significant Mr Fox or Mr Erickson
> or whoever said in their shows, uhh, sorry, AIRSHIFTS
> (there's a difference) this week that didn't have to do with
> music marathons?
>
And I suppose you think that's THEIR doing? If you truly knew anything about radio, then you'd understand that the positioning statements of the radio station are written by the PD and the jocks are made to say them over and over to drive home the stations position within the marketplace. It isn't only something that happens at Frank, but countless station across the country.

For once I agree with you. It certainly doesn't make for memorable radio. I'm sure the jocks are no happier about it than the listener. Having once worked in a similar situation I recall I was pretty miserable. But we shouldn't sit here and blame those two dj's. I recall that at least 2 of the jocks on Frank came from bigger markets where they did personality shows and had good ratings. It is clear that the PD at Frank only wants a music intensive presentation and has limited his jocks to just that.

> I will say Frank has a better website than WBLM. But you
> don't put URL's on an arbitron diary, now do you.
>
 
> And I suppose you think that's THEIR doing? If you truly
> knew anything about radio, then you'd understand that the
> positioning statements of the radio station are written by
> the PD and the jocks are made to say them over and over to
> drive home the stations position within the marketplace. It
> isn't only something that happens at Frank, but countless
> station across the country.
>
> For once I agree with you. It certainly doesn't make for
> memorable radio. I'm sure the jocks are no happier about it
> than the listener. Having once worked in a similar situation
> I recall I was pretty miserable. But we shouldn't sit here
> and blame those two dj's. I recall that at least 2 of the
> jocks on Frank came from bigger markets where they did
> personality shows and had good ratings. It is clear that the
> PD at Frank only wants a music intensive presentation and
> has limited his jocks to just that.
>
When I first got into radio, I had a friend that was also in the business and at their station they actually did all of the station identification live. One of the liners they had to read was "The only reason you would want one song to end, is so the next will start!". It was one of the funniest things I'd ever heard a jock say. My friend hated it when I would mimic her doing that read. Oh the hilarity!
 
> When I first got into radio, I had a friend that was also in
> the business and at their station they actually did all of
> the station identification live. One of the liners they had
> to read was "The only reason you would want one song to end,
> is so the next will start!". It was one of the funniest
> things I'd ever heard a jock say. My friend hated it when I
> would mimic her doing that read. Oh the hilarity!


I guess it would be inappropriate to bring up other (old) catchy slogans like: "ALL MUSIC ALL THE TIME", "JUST ONE GREAT SONG AFTER ANOTHER", "THE MORE YOU LISTEN THE MORE YOU'LL LIKE US"...and the always over-used: "WE JUST PLAY THE HITS!!"

Of course there were probably at least a few listeners wanted to "HIT THE ON-AIR JOCK" who was uttering one of the stupid slogans above???

argytunes
 
> > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock key is
> > on.
> > >
> > > > You don't need to shout.
> > >
> > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT ABOUT
> > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY COMMENTS
> > FROM
> > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING RULE" WAS
> > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > >
> > > > You're right...most people neither know nor care about
>
> > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your calls/handle
>
> > out
> > >
> > > > there between every song is all about awareness. Just
>
> > > like
> > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out there, a
>
> > > good
> > > > station wants everyone to know who they're listening
> to.
> >
> > > If
> > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you claim
> to
> > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have no clue
>
> > who
> > >
> > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A FEW
> > BREAKS
> > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV IS MORE
>
> > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
> EXCEPTION
> >
> > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > >
> > >
> > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE CLUTTER
>
> > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR FACES. AND
> IF
> >
> > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN TO SOME
> OF
> > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR RIGHT NOW!
> > >
> > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > countless times someone would call the hitline and
> > request
> > >
> > > > some song that wasn't even in our format. When I'd
> say
> > we
> > >
> > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd heard us
> play
> >
> > > it
> > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only station they
> > > listen
> > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a competitor
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > thought it was us.
> > >
> > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF THE
> > DOUBT?
> > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER "BECAUSE
> WXYZ
> >
> > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED TO
> REPEAT
> > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE LAST
> TIME
> > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > >
> > >
> > > > It makes no sense to change format for the book
> > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then doing
> > lots
> > > of
> > > > cold segues during the winter & summer). Consistency
> is
> > a
> > >
> > > > good thing.
> > >
> > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN YOUR
> > RADIO
> > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER SOURCE?
> AND
> >
> > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK THERE
> ARE
> >
> > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > >
> > > argytunes
> > >
> > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how radio
> > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's nice to
> think
> > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate radio
> > works differently. And since it's not going away anytime
> > soon, you can either get on board and play the game or eat
>
> > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
>
> Hey Vic,
>
> Thanks again for filling us with your sage words. Now, off
> to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big shift of
> voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> >
>
Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
 
> > When I first got into radio, I had a friend that was also
> in
> > the business and at their station they actually did all of
>
> > the station identification live. One of the liners they
> had
> > to read was "The only reason you would want one song to
> end,
> > is so the next will start!". It was one of the funniest
> > things I'd ever heard a jock say. My friend hated it when
> I
> > would mimic her doing that read. Oh the hilarity!
>
>
> I guess it would be inappropriate to bring up other (old)
> catchy slogans like: "ALL MUSIC ALL THE TIME", "JUST ONE
> GREAT SONG AFTER ANOTHER", "THE MORE YOU LISTEN THE MORE
> YOU'LL LIKE US"...and the always over-used: "WE JUST PLAY
> THE HITS!!"
>
> Of course there were probably at least a few listeners
> wanted to "HIT THE ON-AIR JOCK" who was uttering one of the
> stupid slogans above???
>
> argytunes
>
It's funny to read some of these old(some still used) slogans. It's a big jedi mind trick anyways. Let's start a list! No need to name specific stations, just the slogans please.
 
>
> I guess it would be inappropriate to bring up other (old)
> catchy slogans like: "ALL MUSIC ALL THE TIME", "JUST ONE
> GREAT SONG AFTER ANOTHER", "THE MORE YOU LISTEN THE MORE
> YOU'LL LIKE US"...and the always over-used: "WE JUST PLAY
> THE HITS!!"
>
> Of course there were probably at least a few listeners
> wanted to "HIT THE ON-AIR JOCK" who was uttering one of the
> stupid slogans above???
>

Back in the 90s it seemed AAA stations for whatever reason substituted the word "suggestion" for "request". I worked at one such station...it felt really stupid to say "that was Jewel by suggestion from Dave on the north end".
 
> > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock key
> is
> > > on.
> > > >
> > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > >
> > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT ABOUT
> > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
> COMMENTS
> > > FROM
> > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING RULE" WAS
>
> > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > >
> > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor care
> about
> >
> > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> calls/handle
> >
> > > out
> > > >
> > > > > there between every song is all about awareness.
> Just
> >
> > > > like
> > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out there,
> a
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're listening
>
> > to.
> > >
> > > > If
> > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you claim
>
> > to
> > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have no
> clue
> >
> > > who
> > > >
> > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A FEW
> > > BREAKS
> > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV IS
> MORE
> >
> > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
> > EXCEPTION
> > >
> > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE
> CLUTTER
> >
> > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR FACES.
> AND
> > IF
> > >
> > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN TO SOME
>
> > OF
> > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR RIGHT NOW!
>
> > > >
> > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > countless times someone would call the hitline and
> > > request
> > > >
> > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format. When I'd
> > say
> > > we
> > > >
> > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd heard us
> > play
> > >
> > > > it
> > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only station
> they
> > > > listen
> > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> competitor
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > thought it was us.
> > > >
> > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF THE
> > > DOUBT?
> > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER "BECAUSE
> > WXYZ
> > >
> > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED TO
> > REPEAT
> > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE LAST
> > TIME
> > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the book
> > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then doing
>
> > > lots
> > > > of
> > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> Consistency
> > is
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > good thing.
> > > >
> > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN YOUR
> > > RADIO
> > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER SOURCE?
>
> > AND
> > >
> > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK THERE
>
> > ARE
> > >
> > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > >
> > > > argytunes
> > > >
> > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how radio
>
> > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's nice to
> > think
> > > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate radio
>
> > > works differently. And since it's not going away anytime
>
> > > soon, you can either get on board and play the game or
> eat
> >
> > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> >
> > Hey Vic,
> >
> > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words. Now,
> off
> > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big shift of
> > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > >
> >
> Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
>
I love reading stories. Don't you?
 
> > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock key
>
> > is
> > > > on.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > >
> > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT
> ABOUT
> > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
> > COMMENTS
> > > > FROM
> > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING RULE"
> WAS
> >
> > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor care
> > about
> > >
> > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > calls/handle
> > >
> > > > out
> > > > >
> > > > > > there between every song is all about awareness.
> > Just
> > >
> > > > > like
> > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out
> there,
> > a
> > >
> > > > > good
> > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
> listening
> >
> > > to.
> > > >
> > > > > If
> > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you
> claim
> >
> > > to
> > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have no
> > clue
> > >
> > > > who
> > > > >
> > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A FEW
>
> > > > BREAKS
> > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV IS
> > MORE
> > >
> > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
> > > EXCEPTION
> > > >
> > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE
> > CLUTTER
> > >
> > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR FACES.
> > AND
> > > IF
> > > >
> > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN TO
> SOME
> >
> > > OF
> > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR RIGHT
> NOW!
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > countless times someone would call the hitline and
>
> > > > request
> > > > >
> > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format. When
> I'd
> > > say
> > > > we
> > > > >
> > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd heard
> us
> > > play
> > > >
> > > > > it
> > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only station
> > they
> > > > > listen
> > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> > competitor
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF THE
>
> > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
> "BECAUSE
> > > WXYZ
> > > >
> > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED TO
> > > REPEAT
> > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE LAST
>
> > > TIME
> > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the book
> > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then
> doing
> >
> > > > lots
> > > > > of
> > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > Consistency
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > good thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN
> YOUR
> > > > RADIO
> > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER SOURCE?
>
> >
> > > AND
> > > >
> > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK
> THERE
> >
> > > ARE
> > > >
> > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > > >
> > > > > argytunes
> > > > >
> > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how
> radio
> >
> > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's nice to
>
> > > think
> > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate
> radio
> >
> > > > works differently. And since it's not going away
> anytime
> >
> > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the game or
>
> > eat
> > >
> > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > >
> > > Hey Vic,
> > >
> > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words. Now,
> > off
> > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big shift of
>
> > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > > >
> > >
> > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> >
> I love reading stories. Don't you?

I like your stories spoogie
 
> > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock
> key
> >
> > > is
> > > > > on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT
> > ABOUT
> > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
> > > COMMENTS
> > > > > FROM
> > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING RULE"
>
> > WAS
> > >
> > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor care
>
> > > about
> > > >
> > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > calls/handle
> > > >
> > > > > out
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > there between every song is all about awareness.
>
> > > Just
> > > >
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out
> > there,
> > > a
> > > >
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
> > listening
> > >
> > > > to.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you
> > claim
> > >
> > > > to
> > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have
> no
> > > clue
> > > >
> > > > > who
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A
> FEW
> >
> > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV
> IS
> > > MORE
> > > >
> > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
> > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > >
> > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE
> > > CLUTTER
> > > >
> > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR FACES.
>
> > > AND
> > > > IF
> > > > >
> > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN TO
> > SOME
> > >
> > > > OF
> > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR RIGHT
> > NOW!
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > countless times someone would call the hitline
> and
> >
> > > > > request
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format. When
> > I'd
> > > > say
> > > > > we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd heard
>
> > us
> > > > play
> > > > >
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only station
>
> > > they
> > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> > > competitor
> > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF
> THE
> >
> > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
> > "BECAUSE
> > > > WXYZ
> > > > >
> > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED TO
>
> > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE
> LAST
> >
> > > > TIME
> > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the book
> > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then
> > doing
> > >
> > > > > lots
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > Consistency
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN
> > YOUR
> > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
> SOURCE?
> >
> > >
> > > > AND
> > > > >
> > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK
> > THERE
> > >
> > > > ARE
> > > > >
> > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > >
> > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how
> > radio
> > >
> > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's nice
> to
> >
> > > > think
> > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate
> > radio
> > >
> > > > > works differently. And since it's not going away
> > anytime
> > >
> > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the game
> or
> >
> > > eat
> > > >
> > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Vic,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words.
> Now,
> > > off
> > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big shift
> of
> >
> > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > >
> > I love reading stories. Don't you?
>
> I like your stories spoogie
>
Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same cloth so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each other stories about how good you both were back in the good old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that have fought so many radio wars between them.

So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others rugged arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that give this business, this board, and jocks in particular a bad rap.

Sleep tight princess.
 
> > > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock
>
> > key
> > >
> > > > is
> > > > > > on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT
> > > ABOUT
> > > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
> > > > COMMENTS
> > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING
> RULE"
> >
> > > WAS
> > > >
> > > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor
> care
> >
> > > > about
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > > calls/handle
> > > > >
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there between every song is all about
> awareness.
> >
> > > > Just
> > > > >
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out
> > > there,
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
> > > listening
> > > >
> > > > > to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you
>
> > > claim
> > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have
>
> > no
> > > > clue
> > > > >
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A
>
> > FEW
> > >
> > > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV
>
> > IS
> > > > MORE
> > > > >
> > > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
>
> > > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE
>
> > > > CLUTTER
> > > > >
> > > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR
> FACES.
> >
> > > > AND
> > > > > IF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN
> TO
> > > SOME
> > > >
> > > > > OF
> > > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR
> RIGHT
> > > NOW!
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > > countless times someone would call the hitline
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > request
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format.
> When
> > > I'd
> > > > > say
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd
> heard
> >
> > > us
> > > > > play
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only
> station
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> > > > competitor
> > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
> > > "BECAUSE
> > > > > WXYZ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED
> TO
> >
> > > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE
> > LAST
> > >
> > > > > TIME
> > > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the
> book
> > > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then
>
> > > doing
> > > >
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > > Consistency
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN
>
> > > YOUR
> > > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
> > SOURCE?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > AND
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK
>
> > > THERE
> > > >
> > > > > ARE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how
>
> > > radio
> > > >
> > > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's
> nice
> > to
> > >
> > > > > think
> > > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate
>
> > > radio
> > > >
> > > > > > works differently. And since it's not going away
> > > anytime
> > > >
> > > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the
> game
> > or
> > >
> > > > eat
> > > > >
> > > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Vic,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words.
> > Now,
> > > > off
> > > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big
> shift
> > of
> > >
> > > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > > >
> > > I love reading stories. Don't you?
> >
> > I like your stories spoogie
> >
> Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same cloth
> so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each
> other stories about how good you both were back in the good
> old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to
> listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that have
> fought so many radio wars between them.
>
> So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others rugged
> arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that
> give this business, this board, and jocks in particular a
> bad rap.
>
> Sleep tight princess.
>

Don't worry Vic, we'll still call your name when we do, just like the "old days!"
 
> > > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your shiftlock
>
> > key
> > >
> > > > is
> > > > > > on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE ARGUMENT
> > > ABOUT
> > > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
> > > > COMMENTS
> > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING
> RULE"
> >
> > > WAS
> > > >
> > > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor
> care
> >
> > > > about
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > > calls/handle
> > > > >
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > there between every song is all about
> awareness.
> >
> > > > Just
> > > > >
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name out
> > > there,
> > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
> > > listening
> > > >
> > > > > to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as you
>
> > > claim
> > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners have
>
> > no
> > > > clue
> > > > >
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK A
>
> > FEW
> > >
> > > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO & TV
>
> > IS
> > > > MORE
> > > > >
> > > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH THE
>
> > > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT THE
>
> > > > CLUTTER
> > > > >
> > > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR
> FACES.
> >
> > > > AND
> > > > > IF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN
> TO
> > > SOME
> > > >
> > > > > OF
> > > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR
> RIGHT
> > > NOW!
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > > countless times someone would call the hitline
>
> > and
> > >
> > > > > > request
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format.
> When
> > > I'd
> > > > > say
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd
> heard
> >
> > > us
> > > > > play
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only
> station
> >
> > > > they
> > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> > > > competitor
> > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT OF
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
> > > "BECAUSE
> > > > > WXYZ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T PERMITTED
> TO
> >
> > > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN THE
> > LAST
> > >
> > > > > TIME
> > > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the
> book
> > > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall, then
>
> > > doing
> > > >
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > > Consistency
> > > > > is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO TURN
>
> > > YOUR
> > > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
> > SOURCE?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > AND
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO THINK
>
> > > THERE
> > > >
> > > > > ARE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of how
>
> > > radio
> > > >
> > > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's
> nice
> > to
> > >
> > > > > think
> > > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of corporate
>
> > > radio
> > > >
> > > > > > works differently. And since it's not going away
> > > anytime
> > > >
> > > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the
> game
> > or
> > >
> > > > eat
> > > > >
> > > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Vic,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words.
> > Now,
> > > > off
> > > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big
> shift
> > of
> > >
> > > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > > >
> > > I love reading stories. Don't you?
> >
> > I like your stories spoogie
> >
> Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same cloth
> so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each
> other stories about how good you both were back in the good
> old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to
> listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that have
> fought so many radio wars between them.
>
> So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others rugged
> arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that
> give this business, this board, and jocks in particular a
> bad rap.
>
> Sleep tight princess.
>
And by the way, "Vic," when you end back in SoCal because your gig here sucks and nobody really gives a fat rat's ass about you and your expert "opinion," will you be listening to your "airchecks" (if that's what they can be called) and tell yourself "boy, I really showed those losers in Portland how it gets done, huh?" You're one in a million, "Vic." One in a million no-talent hacks who constantly tell the rest of us how to get it done. Problem is, "Vic," nobody's listening, and management will get it done with the next fake-name ********. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. See your ad in R&R.
 
> > > > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your
> shiftlock
> >
> > > key
> > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE
> ARGUMENT
> > > > ABOUT
> > > > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH MY
>
> > > > > COMMENTS
> > > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING
> > RULE"
> > >
> > > > WAS
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know nor
> > care
> > >
> > > > > about
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > > > calls/handle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > there between every song is all about
> > awareness.
> > >
> > > > > Just
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name
> out
> > > > there,
> > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
> > > > listening
> > > > >
> > > > > > to.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as
> you
> >
> > > > claim
> > > > >
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners
> have
> >
> > > no
> > > > > clue
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN 1969...TOOK
> A
> >
> > > FEW
> > > >
> > > > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO &
> TV
> >
> > > IS
> > > > > MORE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH
> THE
> >
> > > > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT
> THE
> >
> > > > > CLUTTER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR
> > FACES.
> > >
> > > > > AND
> > > > > > IF
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU' HERE...LISTEN
>
> > TO
> > > > SOME
> > > > >
> > > > > > OF
> > > > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR
> > RIGHT
> > > > NOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > > > countless times someone would call the
> hitline
> >
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format.
> > When
> > > > I'd
> > > > > > say
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd
> > heard
> > >
> > > > us
> > > > > > play
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only
> > station
> > >
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to a
> > > > > competitor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE BENEFIT
> OF
> >
> > > THE
> > > >
> > > > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
> > > > "BECAUSE
> > > > > > WXYZ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T
> PERMITTED
> > TO
> > >
> > > > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN
> THE
> > > LAST
> > > >
> > > > > > TIME
> > > > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the
> > book
> > > > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall,
> then
> >
> > > > doing
> > > > >
> > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > > > Consistency
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO
> TURN
> >
> > > > YOUR
> > > > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
> > > SOURCE?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO
> THINK
> >
> > > > THERE
> > > > >
> > > > > > ARE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of
> how
> >
> > > > radio
> > > > >
> > > > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's
> > nice
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of
> corporate
> >
> > > > radio
> > > > >
> > > > > > > works differently. And since it's not going away
>
> > > > anytime
> > > > >
> > > > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the
> > game
> > > or
> > > >
> > > > > eat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Vic,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage words.
>
> > > Now,
> > > > > off
> > > > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big
> > shift
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the game!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > > > >
> > > > I love reading stories. Don't you?
> > >
> > > I like your stories spoogie
> > >
> > Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same cloth
>
> > so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each
> > other stories about how good you both were back in the
> good
> > old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to
> > listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that have
> > fought so many radio wars between them.
> >
> > So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others rugged
> > arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that
> > give this business, this board, and jocks in particular a
> > bad rap.
> >
> > Sleep tight princess.
> >
> And by the way, "Vic," when you end back in SoCal because
> your gig here sucks and nobody really gives a fat rat's ass
> about you and your expert "opinion," will you be listening
> to your "airchecks" (if that's what they can be called) and
> tell yourself "boy, I really showed those losers in Portland
> how it gets done, huh?" You're one in a million, "Vic."
> One in a million no-talent hacks who constantly tell the
> rest of us how to get it done. Problem is, "Vic," nobody's
> listening, and management will get it done with the next
> fake-name ********. Don't let the door hit you on the way
> out. See your ad in R&R.
>
ooooooo. Such venom Spoogie. It looks like I hit a nerve. Maybe my last post was a little too close to home for you? Seems like it. Well settle down now. See your first response was your better response. It was quick to the point and actually funny. You got in and got out with a laugh. Now see if you had done that all those years ago when you were on the air, maybe you'd STILL be on the
air. Instead you sit in a room, a broken bitter shell of who and what you used to be. Which, truth be told, is probably still not saying much, but hey it was your life.

Now let's clarify a point or two. I've never sat here and spouted off with advice on how radio should be done. I've simple replied to remarks made by you and your ilk. If they happen to disagree with your position on the state of the industry, so be it. I've never given advice or as you put it tell the rest of you "how to get it done."

I think the problem here Spoogie, is what we call transferance. You've transfered your disgust with yourself and your lackluster career to me. See what I mean? YOU are the one that spouts off with what you think passes as witty criticism. YOU are the one who try to tell those of us with a career in the biz on how to "get it done." It's YOU that's a one in a million no talent hack. And it's YOU that nobody is listening to (on the air or, on this board for that matter. Your self-important ego driven rants are simply put,pathetic.
Let it go. Your days are gone. Leave it up to those us who get it to carry the load.

And again it appears that you know more about fake-name dick-heads than me since my last post seemed to rile you up so much. Perhaps if you were to admit that side of who you are then that would also help to ease the pain. Until then, crawl back up in the fetal position, have another swig off that beer can and get drunk enough to come up with your next stupid post. Oh yeah, another thing that proves how out of touch you truly are with the business; nobody uses R&R anymore to look for jobs. It's really been rendered useless with the advent of ALL ACCESS. But then again, how would you know.

~~Sigh~~ Sad.
 
> > > > > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your
> > shiftlock
> > >
> > > > key
> > > > >
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE
> > ARGUMENT
> > > > > ABOUT
> > > > > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH
> MY
> >
> > > > > > COMMENTS
> > > > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING
>
> > > RULE"
> > > >
> > > > > WAS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know
> nor
> > > care
> > > >
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > > > > calls/handle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > there between every song is all about
> > > awareness.
> > > >
> > > > > > Just
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name
> > out
> > > > > there,
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
>
> > > > > listening
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as
>
> > you
> > >
> > > > > claim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners
> > have
> > >
> > > > no
> > > > > > clue
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN
> 1969...TOOK
> > A
> > >
> > > > FEW
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO
> &
> > TV
> > >
> > > > IS
> > > > > > MORE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > CLUTTER
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR
> > > FACES.
> > > >
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > IF
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU'
> HERE...LISTEN
> >
> > > TO
> > > > > SOME
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OF
> > > > > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR
> > > RIGHT
> > > > > NOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > > > > countless times someone would call the
> > hitline
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format.
>
> > > When
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > say
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd
>
> > > heard
> > > >
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only
> > > station
> > > >
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to
> a
> > > > > > competitor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE
> BENEFIT
> > OF
> > >
> > > > THE
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
>
> > > > > "BECAUSE
> > > > > > > WXYZ
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T
> > PERMITTED
> > > TO
> > > >
> > > > > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN
> > THE
> > > > LAST
> > > > >
> > > > > > > TIME
> > > > > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the
>
> > > book
> > > > > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall,
> > then
> > >
> > > > > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > > > > Consistency
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO
> > TURN
> > >
> > > > > YOUR
> > > > > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
>
> > > > SOURCE?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO
> > THINK
> > >
> > > > > THERE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ARE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of
>
> > how
> > >
> > > > > radio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's
>
> > > nice
> > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of
> > corporate
> > >
> > > > > radio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > works differently. And since it's not going
> away
> >
> > > > > anytime
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the
>
> > > game
> > > > or
> > > > >
> > > > > > eat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Vic,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage
> words.
> >
> > > > Now,
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big
> > > shift
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the
> game!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I love reading stories. Don't you?
> > > >
> > > > I like your stories spoogie
> > > >
> > > Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same
> cloth
> >
> > > so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each
>
> > > other stories about how good you both were back in the
> > good
> > > old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to
>
> > > listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that
> have
> > > fought so many radio wars between them.
> > >
> > > So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others
> rugged
> > > arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that
>
> > > give this business, this board, and jocks in particular
> a
> > > bad rap.
> > >
> > > Sleep tight princess.
> > >
> > And by the way, "Vic," when you end back in SoCal because
> > your gig here sucks and nobody really gives a fat rat's
> ass
> > about you and your expert "opinion," will you be listening
>
> > to your "airchecks" (if that's what they can be called)
> and
> > tell yourself "boy, I really showed those losers in
> Portland
> > how it gets done, huh?" You're one in a million, "Vic."
> > One in a million no-talent hacks who constantly tell the
> > rest of us how to get it done. Problem is, "Vic,"
> nobody's
> > listening, and management will get it done with the next
> > fake-name ********. Don't let the door hit you on the way
>
> > out. See your ad in R&R.
> >
> ooooooo. Such venom Spoogie. It looks like I hit a nerve.
> Maybe my last post was a little too close to home for you?
> Seems like it. Well settle down now. See your first response
> was your better response. It was quick to the point and
> actually funny. You got in and got out with a laugh. Now see
> if you had done that all those years ago when you were on
> the air, maybe you'd STILL be on the
> air. Instead you sit in a room, a broken bitter shell of who
> and what you used to be. Which, truth be told, is probably
> still not saying much, but hey it was your life.
>
> Now let's clarify a point or two. I've never sat here and
> spouted off with advice on how radio should be done. I've
> simple replied to remarks made by you and your ilk. If they
> happen to disagree with your position on the state of the
> industry, so be it. I've never given advice or as you put it
> tell the rest of you "how to get it done."
>
> I think the problem here Spoogie, is what we call
> transferance. You've transfered your disgust with yourself
> and your lackluster career to me. See what I mean? YOU are
> the one that spouts off with what you think passes as witty
> criticism. YOU are the one who try to tell those of us with
> a career in the biz on how to "get it done." It's YOU that's
> a one in a million no talent hack. And it's YOU that nobody
> is listening to (on the air or, on this board for that
> matter. Your self-important ego driven rants are simply
> put,pathetic.
> Let it go. Your days are gone. Leave it up to those us who
> get it to carry the load.
>
> And again it appears that you know more about fake-name
> dick-heads than me since my last post seemed to rile you up
> so much. Perhaps if you were to admit that side of who you
> are then that would also help to ease the pain. Until then,
> crawl back up in the fetal position, have another swig off
> that beer can and get drunk enough to come up with your next
> stupid post. Oh yeah, another thing that proves how out of
> touch you truly are with the business; nobody uses R&R
> anymore to look for jobs. It's really been rendered useless
> with the advent of ALL ACCESS. But then again, how would you
> know.
>
> ~~Sigh~~ Sad.
>
Whatever, "Vic." Good luck in your next job, or your next name, or whatever board you op. We won't miss you, and management at 477 won't either.
 
> > > > > > > > > > Dude, in case no one told you...your
> > shiftlock
> > >
> > > > key
> > > > >
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You don't need to shout.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SORRY...BUT I'VE NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE
> > ARGUMENT
> > > > > ABOUT
> > > > > > > > > SHOUTING. I USE CAPS MERELY TO DISTINGUISH
> MY
> >
> > > > > > COMMENTS
> > > > > > > > FROM
> > > > > > > > > YOURS. [WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT "SHOUTING






I love spooning and scarborough
>
> > > RULE"
> > > >
> > > > > WAS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PROBABLY A 'COMPUTER CONTROL FREAK?']
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You're right...most people neither know
> nor
> > > care
> > > >
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arbitron. The whole idea of getting your
> > > > > > calls/handle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > there between every song is all about
> > > awareness.
> > > >
> > > > > > Just
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > a good commercial gets the business' name
> > out
> > > > > there,
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > station wants everyone to know who they're
>
> > > > > listening
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > > you'd actually been in this biz as long as
>
> > you
> > >
> > > > > claim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > have, you'd know that many/most listeners
> > have
> > >
> > > > no
> > > > > > clue
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > they're listening to. I BEGAN IN
> 1969...TOOK
> > A
> > >
> > > > FEW
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > BREAKS
> > > > > > > > > ON OCCASION...BUT MY OVERALL TALLY IN RADIO
> &
> > TV
> > >
> > > > IS
> > > > > > MORE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > THAN 30 YEARS. I'VE WORKED ALL FORMATS (WITH
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > > EXCEPTION
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > OF RAP AND HIP-HOP)!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A LOT OF LISTENERS ONLY WANT THE TUNES...NOT
>
> > THE
> > >
> > > > > > CLUTTER
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > FROM SOMEBODY SCREAMING ONE-LINERS IN THEIR
> > > FACES.
> > > >
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > IF
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > YOU THINK I'M 'SCREAMING AT YOU'
> HERE...LISTEN
> >
> > > TO
> > > > > SOME
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > OF
> > > > > > > > > THE TERRIBLE 'SCREAMERS' WHO ARE ON THE AIR
> > > RIGHT
> > > > > NOW!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back in my jock days there were
> > > > > > > > > > countless times someone would call the
> > hitline
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > some song that wasn't even in our format.
>
> > > When
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > say
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > didn't play that one, they'd INSIST they'd
>
> > > heard
> > > >
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > play
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > a few hours ago, since we were "the only
> > > station
> > > >
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > > > to". Obviously, they'd been listening to
> a
> > > > > > competitor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > thought it was us.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T GIVE 'EM THE
> BENEFIT
> > OF
> > >
> > > > THE
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > DOUBT?
> > > > > > > > > ALL YOU NEEDED TO DO WAS TELL THE THE CALLER
>
> > > > > "BECAUSE
> > > > > > > WXYZ
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PLAYS SO MUCH MUSIC, THE JOCKS AREN'T
> > PERMITTED
> > > TO
> > > >
> > > > > > > REPEAT
> > > > > > > > > SONGS UNLESS 6 HOURS OR MORE ELAPSE BETWEEN
> > THE
> > > > LAST
> > > > >
> > > > > > > TIME
> > > > > > > > > THE SONG WAS PLAYED!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It makes no sense to change format for the
>
> > > book
> > > > > > > > > > (ie-hammering calls in the spring & fall,
> > then
> > >
> > > > > doing
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > lots
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > cold segues during the winter & summer).
> > > > > > Consistency
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > UNTIL IT MAKES SOME LISTENERS MAD ENOUGH TO
> > TURN
> > >
> > > > > YOUR
> > > > > > > > RADIO
> > > > > > > > > STATION OFF AND SWITCH TO CD'S OR SOME OTHER
>
> > > > SOURCE?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > AND
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOUR ADVERTISERS WHO
> > THINK
> > >
> > > > > THERE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ARE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEIR SPOTS???
>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > argytunes
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Argy I mean no disrespect, but your concept of
>
> > how
> > >
> > > > > radio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > works certainly doesn't fit todays model. It's
>
> > > nice
> > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > back to a simpler time, but the world of
> > corporate
> > >
> > > > > radio
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > works differently. And since it's not going
> away
> >
> > > > > anytime
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > soon, you can either get on board and play the
>
> > > game
> > > > or
> > > > >
> > > > > > eat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dust, ie: find another job outside the biz.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Vic,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again for filling us with your sage
> words.
> >
> > > > Now,
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > to bed you go. Gotta go get ready for that big
> > > shift
> > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > > > > voice-tracking 12-in-a-row, hmmmm? Play the
> game!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Spoogie come tuck me in and read me a story.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I love reading stories. Don't you?
> > > >
> > > > I like your stories spoogie
> > > >
> > > Sounds like you two old queens are cut from the same
> cloth
> >
> > > so you should take a warm shower, curl up, and tell each
>
> > > other stories about how good you both were back in the
> > good
> > > old days before the kids ran you off, and decided not to
>
> > > listen and take the advice of two wise veterans that
> have
> > > fought so many radio wars between them.
> > >
> > > So as you two spoon and fall asleep in each others
> rugged
> > > arms, just remember...it's no talent hacks like you that
>
> > > give this business, this board, and jocks in particular
> a
> > > bad rap.
> > >
> > > Sleep tight princess.
> > >
> > And by the way, "Vic," when you end back in SoCal because
> > your gig here sucks and nobody really gives a fat rat's
> ass
> > about you and your expert "opinion," will you be listening
>
> > to your "airchecks" (if that's what they can be called)
> and
> > tell yourself "boy, I really showed those losers in
> Portland
> > how it gets done, huh?" You're one in a million, "Vic."
> > One in a million no-talent hacks who constantly tell the
> > rest of us how to get it done. Problem is, "Vic,"
> nobody's
> > listening, and management will get it done with the next
> > fake-name ********. Don't let the door hit you on the way
>
> > out. See your ad in R&R.
> >
> ooooooo. Such venom Spoogie. It looks like I hit a nerve.
> Maybe my last post was a little too close to home for you?
> Seems like it. Well settle down now. See your first response
> was your better response. It was quick to the point and
> actually funny. You got in and got out with a laugh. Now see
> if you had done that all those years ago when you were on
> the air, maybe you'd STILL be on the
> air. Instead you sit in a room, a broken bitter shell of who
> and what you used to be. Which, truth be told, is probably
> still not saying much, but hey it was your life.
>
> Now let's clarify a point or two. I've never sat here and
> spouted off with advice on how radio should be done. I've
> simple replied to remarks made by you and your ilk. If they
> happen to disagree with your position on the state of the
> industry, so be it. I've never given advice or as you put it
> tell the rest of you "how to get it done."
>
> I think the problem here Spoogie, is what we call
> transferance. You've transfered your disgust with yourself
> and your lackluster career to me. See what I mean? YOU are
> the one that spouts off with what you think passes as witty
> criticism. YOU are the one who try to tell those of us with
> a career in the biz on how to "get it done." It's YOU that's
> a one in a million no talent hack. And it's YOU that nobody
> is listening to (on the air or, on this board for that
> matter. Your self-important ego driven rants are simply
> put,pathetic.
> Let it go. Your days are gone. Leave it up to those us who
> get it to carry the load.
>
> And again it appears that you know more about fake-name
> dick-heads than me since my last post seemed to rile you up
> so much. Perhaps if you were to admit that side of who you
> are then that would also help to ease the pain. Until then,
> crawl back up in the fetal position, have another swig off
> that beer can and get drunk enough to come up with your next
> stupid post. Oh yeah, another thing that proves how out of
> touch you truly are with the business; nobody uses R&R
> anymore to look for jobs. It's really been rendered useless
> with the advent of ALL ACCESS. But then again, how would you
> know.
>
> ~~Sigh~~ Sad.
> I love spoons. I have a collection of all kinds of little ones from all over the world. Are you from california? I dont have one from there yet. Will you send me one when you go back? By the way- I am a princess. Every little girl is one. Didn't Your daddy tell you that?
 
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