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Anyone remember Talk America, which had a local affiliate? Nuff said!
My apologies, it was Air America instead!
I find the Catholic stations pretty dry, but Evangelicals have had an 80 year head start. Seems a lot is the Rosary, ten male voices doing discussion shows on the evils of birth control
They are your own words....that's the beauty of a public BB....your words are there for all to see!
OK we will stipulate NPR, WGBH Radio and WBUR Radio are liberal leaning and do quite well.
" Commercial" Liberal talk has never done well in Boston
You can have a Liberal and a Conservative and it will work... but a liberal alone doesn't fly
Libertarians tend to do well , or they did in the days of Bruds and Burns, and even Avi Nelson
Liberals will listen to right of center talk, and call in to scream at the host... Limbaugh was the master of that.... Howie Carr would also have women and liberals call the "contest line" when he was at WRKO's studio when he was pitting the Libs against the Con's for ratings.
Conservatives on the other hand, will not listen to Liberal points of view 99% of the time, they will change stations
Don't ask me why, it just happens that way.
Washington DC once had a talk station with a
slogan "Left. Right. And Whatever We Want."
It didn't last long.
In late 2008 DC stations were nicknamed McCain 570 and Obama 1260. Former was rebranded Freedom 570. The Obama one stuck around till around the inauguration but later quickly switched to conserv talk due to flagging ratings and a new owner. 1260 soon had the likes of Hannity on.
"The progressive talk experiment is over"--
Prog dir of WHJJ 920 Prov
slogan "Left. Right. And Whatever We Want."
It didn't last long.
In late 2008 DC stations were nicknamed McCain 570 and Obama 1260. Former was rebranded Freedom 570. The Obama one stuck around till around the inauguration but later quickly switched to conserv talk due to flagging ratings and a new owner. 1260 soon had the likes of Hannity on.
"The progressive talk experiment is over"--
Prog dir of WHJJ 920 Prov
I count myself as a "liberal", whatever that means these days, and even I think progressive talk radio is dull. A station close to me runs Democracy Now! on a daily basis and it's enough to send me to sleep while driving. It doesn't matter whether or not I agree with the content - it's just so boring and worthy, and it comes close to being "villain of the day" content. One day, it's the prison system in some Texas county, the next day it's the government of some Central Asian dictatorship who we're all supposed to suddenly care deeply about. There's no entertainment value in this type of activist programming, and it's no wonder that whenever it's tried in commercial radio, it's a flop.
The constant and perennial problem with liberal talk has been, in the opinion of many industry leaders and programmers, the lack of Limbaugh-like entertaining show hosts.
The common reference is the effort over a decade ago to create a progressive or liberal talk network which failed despite many significant affiliates.
The analysis is that the hosts were too intense and sounded like political evangelists rather than entertainers who based their commentary on social and political topics. And that was what made Air America fail.
There is contrarian commentary that Air America did not have skilled radio management. While that is true, the programming was very intense and not very fun and entertaining to listen to. It was compared to 24 hours a day of campaign speeches, rather than more like the late-night TV network talk shows.
Miss Tuned cuts right to the core with the direction of Liberal Talk. Although I label myself as conservative (likely half-heartedly), I can say both liberal and conservative talk are based on complaining, if we can use such a simplistic term. From listening to both, it seems Conservative radio centered on material that seems to affect one's life. More than anything, it centers on morals and patriotism as reasons to oppose liberalism. Like Liberals, Conservatives come in various levels on conservatism but as a whole, share moral values and love of country.
As much as Rush said he was 'entertainment', it seems he was just that. Conservative talk as a radio format used Rush as a model.
It seems liberal talk is bent on finding yet another bad something either here or elsewhere on earth. I found that rather depressing. I can find hope, at least, in fighting for my values. To be honest, my personality is one where conservative talk radio is best in small doses. I'm the person that says why are you complaining about the economy instead of finding ways to minimize inflation in your life.
As a broad statement, the saddest thing we have lost is civility when it comes to political views. Once upon a time we could hear one another out, not personally attack and actually respect one's views although you might personally disagree.
As much as Rush said he was 'entertainment', it seems he was just that. Conservative talk as a radio format used Rush as a model.
It seems liberal talk is bent on finding yet another bad something either here or elsewhere on earth. I found that rather depressing. I can find hope, at least, in fighting for my values. To be honest, my personality is one where conservative talk radio is best in small doses. I'm the person that says why are you complaining about the economy instead of finding ways to minimize inflation in your life.
As a broad statement, the saddest thing we have lost is civility when it comes to political views. Once upon a time we could hear one another out, not personally attack and actually respect one's views although you might personally disagree.
Much agreed!
There was the Occupy movement and in general attacks on big corporations. Don't know if that was one reason they could have had troubles attracting advertisers. The Boston Phoenix liked Occupy, etc. And when it came time to sell their WFNX, their Steve Mindich clearly stuck to his/their principles.
He sold it to Clear Channel.
Jon Sinton of Air America predicted in 2004 that the network would be on 500 stations.
>>complaining
Sports talk!
>>The analysis is that the hosts were too intense and sounded like political evangelists
Hannity etc has been like that.Rush made it entertaining, as has Howie. In his case he also has done death pools, supermarket gripes, dumbing down of America, pet care questions, "jukebox from hell" etc.
"I think you're an idiot and dangerous and you should be taken off the air!"
"I see; oh, how often do you listen to my show?"
"Every day."
He sold it to Clear Channel.
Jon Sinton of Air America predicted in 2004 that the network would be on 500 stations.
>>complaining
Sports talk!
>>The analysis is that the hosts were too intense and sounded like political evangelists
Hannity etc has been like that.Rush made it entertaining, as has Howie. In his case he also has done death pools, supermarket gripes, dumbing down of America, pet care questions, "jukebox from hell" etc.
"I think you're an idiot and dangerous and you should be taken off the air!"
"I see; oh, how often do you listen to my show?"
"Every day."
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When people bring up the failure of Air America, I direct them to Talk 1200. Very similar situation for pretty much the exact same reason.
Talk 1200 was given 2 local hosts, Jay Severin and Jeff Katz, with daily shows. As prog talk 1200/1430 had one local show on Sat afternoon (Jeff Santos). Supposedly a better signal than before, with the night signal pointed right at Boston; the regular Premiere shows plus local...but couldn't do much.Like now it at least gives their national shows local clearance.
Katz is on WRVA Richmind VA and has done fill ins for Polito and other local, regional, or national shows.
When I visited New Orleans around 2008 a
local station had John "Ozone" Osterlind, ex RKO, as a host.
Katz is on WRVA Richmind VA and has done fill ins for Polito and other local, regional, or national shows.
When I visited New Orleans around 2008 a
local station had John "Ozone" Osterlind, ex RKO, as a host.
Now, weren't they both not without previous controversy?
Severin could be outlandish at times, but he was always entertaining.
Jay's undoing was his saying he took certain liberties with female interns or something
As for Jeff, I don't remember anything bad about him, he was pretty edgy at the time he was on WRKO compared to other offerings.
Now Tubby Tom Leykis was another story....
As for Jeff, I don't remember anything bad about him, he was pretty edgy at the time he was on WRKO compared to other offerings.
Now Tubby Tom Leykis was another story....
Personally, I can’t stand faith pop or whatever the genre is called. In terms of the “Mary,” saints, and sacraments… Outside of hymns, don’t hear any of the before mentioned on even Catholic stations like WJMJ. It’s a bit insulting if that’s what you think Catholicism and Orthodox are like. And FYI, there are few hymns about sacrament, even marriage. A confirmation or baptismal hymn? Nada.
I was protestant for longer than I’ve been Catholic. I enjoy praise and worship regardless of whatever church I attend(ed), just not contemporary wherever it’s played or performed. Funny that most of the great old time Christian hymns are sung in many churches, regardless of denomination.
Ever consider that just as some folks don’t like rap or hip hop or pop or whatever, they may simply dislike contemporary Christian music?
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