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WBZ in reverse

Just discovered that KOMO 1000 in Seattle format consists of talk shows from 5a-7p and an all news format from 7p-5a
 
I wish we had 24 hour all news radio. WBZ's sister stations in New York, WCBS and WINS are 24 hour all news. I remember when Jim Westover did the overnight on WEEI when they were all news. That was good radio.
 
Whatever became of Jim?

Bruce Lee kept us company on the overnite thru a few heavy snowfalls back then, as well.

Always wonder what happened to the "Talkmasters", as they were called then.








"DEvonshire 8 - 6700"
 
KYW 1060/Phila may be the only all-news station station --other than the two NY-- since DC/1500, Montreal/860 gave up the format.
 
jk111 said:
Just discovered that KOMO 1000 in Seattle format consists of talk shows from 5a-7p and an all news format from 7p-5a

Is it local or do they just run CNN or something? Seems kind of an expensive format to run only in hours where there's a relatively small audience.
 
Blackroc said:
KYW 1060/Phila may be the only all-news station -- other than the two NY -- since DC/1500, Montreal/860 gave up the format.

Actually, WTOP in D.C. didn't "give up" the all-new format - rather, they migrated it to FM a couple of years ago... and it's been doing absolutely gangbusters in the D.C. PPM's ever since.

And don't forget about Chicago's WBBM and L.A.'s KNX.
 
DToTheJ said:
Blackroc said:
KYW 1060/Phila may be the only all-news station -- other than the two NY -- since DC/1500, Montreal/860 gave up the format.

Actually, WTOP in D.C. didn't "give up" the all-new format - rather, they migrated it to FM a couple of years ago... and it's been doing absolutely gangbusters in the D.C. PPM's ever since.

And don't forget about Chicago's WBBM and L.A.'s KNX.

I think you mean the Montreal 940, which had been on 600 with different calls (CFCF) and format before the move to 940. 860 is in Toronto and is FF (talk, I think, but not sure).

Also, isn't KCBS in SF all news and doing very well? I believe it is now simulcasting on FM.
 
You don't fix what's not broken. WBZ's all-news format evolved incrementally over quite a few years, from the "60 to 6/90 to 6" afternoon news block, to all-news in morning and afternoon drives with talk in middays, evenings and overnights, to all-news weekdays/talk weeknights/sports weekends, to the current all-news by day, all-talk by night.

The evening and overnight talk blocks have done so well in the ratings, at such minimal cost compared to staffing up a 24-hour all-news operation, that there's been no reason I know of to even think about going 24-7 news.

Boston is a significantly smaller market than NYC or Chicago or LA, its traffic eases out to nearly nothing overnight (unlike NYC, where you can have hour-long backups at the tunnels in the middle of the night), and the overnight talkers all have very substantial news experience (Dan Rea on channel 4, Leveille on the old WEEI) that can easily be brought to bear if there is breaking news during their shifts.
 
jk111 said:
Just discovered that KOMO 1000 in Seattle format consists of talk shows from 5a-7p and an all news format from 7p-5a

Really? Last I checked, KOMO was still all-news (in fact, their program schedule confirms this as such). One would think that KOMO would have picked up some of the castoffs from sister station KVI's flip from talk to oldies... but that never happened.

KFWB WAS all-news until August 2009. It was a casualty of CBS Radio owning too many radio stations in LA, while also trying to own two TV stations at the same time. KFWB's been put in a trust for several years, and CBS has funneled off resources to KNX-AM, which has a clear-channel 50kW signal.

Today, that station has a low-cost talk format, with some all-news blocks in drive-time. I presume whatever future owner buys KFWB won't keep it in an Anglophone format.
 
This thread as evolved into the perfect medium for something thats been bugging me....


Remember the old all news WEEI 590? As a kid, I seem to recall that whenever you tried to tune this station (analog tuner), it was always accompanied by a buzzing or whistle of varying pitch. It didn't matter if it was a cheapo radio or a high end. Anyone remember this? What was the deal...
 
Sounds like the whistle robotique is wondering about, is a heterodyne, or beat note, from stations across the Atlantic. 585 and 594 kHz are used by stations in Europe, where the channel spacing is 9 kHz, starting at 531 kHz, versus our 10 kHz spacing starting at 540.
 
robotique said:
Remember the old all news WEEI 590? As a kid, I seem to recall that whenever you tried to tune this station (analog tuner), it was always accompanied by a buzzing or whistle of varying pitch. It didn't matter if it was a cheapo radio or a high end. Anyone remember this? What was the deal...

My——purely speculative——guess is that you were real close to one or more (other) AMs that was causing some sort of mixing artifacts.
 
robotique said:
Remember the old all news WEEI 590? As a kid, I seem to recall that whenever you tried to tune this station (analog tuner), it was always accompanied by a buzzing or whistle of varying pitch. It didn't matter if it was a cheapo radio or a high end. Anyone remember this? What was the deal...

If this was happening during the mid-day hours, every day, as well as at night, it was probably more likely a local phenomenon rather than a skip from across the pond, which would be more likely to occur only at night or late in the day.

Were you close to the old WMEX 1510 transmitter, or in an area where its signal was strong? 600 kHz, just 10 kHz above 590, would be 910 kHz below 1510, double the commonly used intermediate frequency of 455 kHz then used for many AM radios. This often caused a weak image of a station to appear 910 kHz below its actual frequency on the AM dial, which could interfere with a station on the same or adjacent frequency on which this image appears, often resulting in a heterodyne tone or whistle that varied with the tuning of the radio.

For example, where I grew up in Newton, a weak image of WNTN (1550) also appeared on some radios at around 640 on the dial, 910 kHz down. There was nothing locally on that part of the dial back in those years, but when I'm in the area nowadays, I notice a heterodyne whistle appearing on top of 650 WSRO Ashland, which I'm guessing must be being caused by the radios IF reaction to WNTN. It also disappears at night, after WNTN signs off.

Also, growing up in Newton, whenever I went near the immediate Oak Hill area, I noticed an IF generated signal from WUNR 1600 AM appearing on 690 AM (again 910 kHz down), causing whistles and interference, etc... to adjacent WRKO on 680.

The directional signal of the old WMEX 1510 was weak where I grew up in Newton, so it was not capable of causing any IF interference to the old WEEI 590 there, but I recall back when 1510 was moved from their old Quincy site to their current Waltham site a few decades ago, many people in the immediate Waltham and nearby Belmont area complained that they could no longer even get 590 WEEI because the IF generated interference (on adjacent 600 kHz) from 50 kW 1510 right in their neighborhood completely buried the 590 signal on their radios. The owners of 1510 at the time had to spend a small fortune on some sort of special radios or filters of some sort for people in the immediate area.

Modern AM digital tuners generally seem to do a better job of filtering out, or not reacting, to these IF generated signals.
 
this wasn't an image of another station. this was a high pitched whistle that changed tone if you moved the dial a tiny bit. Hollywood used this same sound for years as a sound effect for tuning a radio. I remember it happening in Winchester and Revere and on the road. I dont know what year it stopped... but once it went religious it was gone. New transmitter? New tower location? Some other phenomonon ended? who knows....
 
icybluelake said:
What about KNX and WBBM? Haven't heard either of them recently, have they replaced part of their news coverage with talk?

KNX and WBBM are still all news, except for Bears games on WBBM. CBS changed KFWB in LA's format to talk a couple of years ago, though.
 
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