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WBZC gets 3rd frequency

obviously you dont live locally as you can't place a translator on 92.3 or 101.9 in mount holly due to the fact that philadelphia's 92.5 and 102.1 are only 20 miles to west. Why wasn't 92.9 chosen as a translator for mount holly. you sure cant get wdsd or wgms very well with exception on skip conditions and wobm on 92.7 is far enough for the spacing.
 
Mike D said:
Brett,

I'll agree that WBZC does need a Mount Holly translator. In "town" neither 88.9 or or 95.1 come in clear. The downtown campus of BCC does need a station with a stronger signal to connect with the Pemberton & Mount Laurel campuses. However, WLEV often comes in like a local in Mount Holly. Wasn't there a better frequency to jump onto? 93.5, 94.9, 95.3, and 102.3 are all dead signals and would have worked, or even a co-channel with a New York frequency (92.3 or 101.9)? It seems like 100.7 and for that matter 95.1 were poorly chosen choices.

I dont know why either one was chosen. 95.1 has been up for years and the 100.7 we were granted a few years back. I know the school put in for the translator with a bunch of other ones when the FCC had that last translator window. I got the job in December of 05 later that spring I was informed that we had the green light with the 100.7.

I do know geography, i just didnt know exactly where that translator was, sorry I dont have the latest tower location calendar.

Someone meintioned WRTI, they received their HD upgrade on a federal grant. Our federal grant whcih was a match grant was to pay for a new transmitter and antenna, which we had to buy because the county had to move us down on the tower. So how is that a waste of taxpayers money? That was a need. The translator was not expensive at all, which was not bought off a grant.

You know its funny, I see people here bitching and moaning about how all these radio stations stink or have no talent. Here I am trying to teach some young people the craft that we all love and there are some people on here calling it a waste of time because you cant get a job in radio. I wish I had the training that these kids are getting. I didnt learn a thing about broadcasting when I went to school except for the history which the last time I checked didnt get you a job behind the mic. None of my classes taught you how to hit a post, how scheduling software works or how to create imaging. They are getting learn all this and a lot more.

So again if you want to complain go right ahead, Im proud of what we as a station have accomplished in a little over a year.

Me being the nice guy that I am if anyone wants to come see the station I am inviting you up just email me at [email protected] or call me at 609-894-9311 ext. 1189
 
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I do know geography, i just didnt know exactly where that translator was, sorry I dont have the latest tower location calendar.


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If you listened to the station you chose as your example, and heard a TOH ID (since you cited the station, I assumed you did), all of its K prefixed translators are located in Colorado. You don't need a tower location calendar for that!
 
WBZC seems to have forgotten about the Eastern 1/2 of Burlington County. 88.9 is doesn't come in at all in Bass River Township and has issues in much of Washington Township.

Seems WBZC is becoming more of a "Philly wanna-be" every day...
 
88.9 is doesn't come in at all in Bass River Township... Seems WBZC is becoming more of a "Philly wanna-be" every day...

I noticed that as well. And why would they want to be a "Philly wanna-be?" After all, everyone knows that hundreds of thousands of people and potential listeners come from miles around to Ernest Bass River Township to watch The Eagles, Phillies, Flyers and 76'rs play.

There is not one fine restaurant in Philly...nope, you gotta go to Bass River Township for the finest cuisine. In fact, didn't the McDonald's there win "Fast Food Restaurant of the Year" a few summers ago?

There is no need to go to The Forrest Theatre. Everyone knows that The Ernest Bass River Township Elementary School puts on Award Winning Broadway style shows just about every month.

And The Smithsonian, Art Museum, Franklin Institute? What a waste they are. Why would anyone spend time at those places in Philly when they could very easily drive over the bridge into Bass River Township and check out The Eighth Wonder of the World, that pile of shiny rocks on the side of the road between the junk yard and the gas station.

Kudos to you and your staff, Brett, for the fine job you do at WBZC, one of the best sounding college stations on the air, and don't pay attention to the condescending and arrogant remarks about the station. Most people who have heard it appreciate your efforts.

And as far as tax monies go, in case you haven't noticed, if you make the same amount of money every week, that you pay the same amount in taxes every week. Period. It's not as if, if WBZC didn't exist that you would pay less money in taxes. And the last time I checked, there was no WBZC Tax on my pay stub. Sure, I'd like to pay less taxes, but I'm not going to with or without WBZC. At least they're spending some of our tax dollars on something worthwhile like a college radio station in addition to that $600 toilet seat.
 
Dancerev889 said:
I dont know why either one was chosen. 95.1 has been up for years and the 100.7 we were granted a few years back. I know the school put in for the translator with a bunch of other ones when the FCC had that last translator window. I got the job in December of 05 later that spring I was informed that we had the green light with the 100.7.

I do know geography, i just didnt know exactly where that translator was, sorry I dont have the latest tower location calendar.

I think there has to be a rationale for not choosing 92.9 mHz. You can't license that channel in Philly- I think XTU and MMR will object and have in the past. So you guys squoze it in where you could, with dubious results. It looks better to anyone wanting to write off a big chunk of dough when an admin says, "We have a radio station with three frequencies!" I don't think you get the response of "Well, what is the ERP of these new channels?" Just stick it in the brocure. Good selling point all round. You did it because you could, so you did. There's a Sherrie Bobbins song in there somewhere.

Someone meintioned WRTI, they received their HD upgrade on a federal grant. Our federal grant whcih was a match grant was to pay for a new transmitter and antenna, which we had to buy because the county had to move us down on the tower. So how is that a waste of taxpayers money? That was a need. The translator was not expensive at all, which was not bought off a grant.

This is not entirely clear here. Do you mean that you needed a new tower because of the IBOC transmitter system, or because of the county needing to relocate your analog antenna, or both? Please clarify.

You know its funny, I see people here bitching and moaning about how all these radio stations stink or have no talent. Here I am trying to teach some young people the craft that we all love and there are some people on here calling it a waste of time because you cant get a job in radio. I wish I had the training that these kids are getting. I didnt learn a thing about broadcasting when I went to school except for the history which the last time I checked didnt get you a job behind the mic. None of my classes taught you how to hit a post, how scheduling software works or how to create imaging. They are getting learn all this and a lot more.

Well, how did the big guys do it? Ultimately, they threw in, in a professional situation. Yes, there is a need for technical training. I don't think that 'hitting the post' should be an important facet. You can pick that up by listening to radio. Imaging? You mean another HUNDRED jerkasses with the same ten movie clips and synth jingle packages? Does radio need that? How about teaching people how to read the news properly, how not to pronounce things like a rube, how to use punctuation, you know, communication skills? Not for the radio, really, I've been to South Jersey is all...

So again if you want to complain go right ahead, Im proud of what we as a station have accomplished in a little over a year.

Me being the nice guy that I am if anyone wants to come see the station I am inviting you up just email me at [email protected] or call me at 609-894-9311 ext. 1189

Personally, I don't think IBOC should even be allowed in the Non-Comm band. Analog works fine, and despite the fact that the students 'won't be moving into the 21st century', I think the basic operation is the same. The same crap that goes in one end comes out of the other-that is, with the proper equipment. Maybe IBOC will be the best lesson of all-the marketplace in action.

I think your money would've been better spent on an internet stream royalty coverage (which I don't think you're entirely up to speed on) and have that presence on the internet. WiFi is coming to Philly, and is available in your local coffee joint. That would be very forward-thinking, and really be a valuable lesson.
 
raydofan said:
Dancerev889 said:
I dont know why either one was chosen. 95.1 has been up for years and the 100.7 we were granted a few years back. I know the school put in for the translator with a bunch of other ones when the FCC had that last translator window. I got the job in December of 05 later that spring I was informed that we had the green light with the 100.7.

I do know geography, i just didnt know exactly where that translator was, sorry I dont have the latest tower location calendar.

We had to move the analog antenna down the tower because of some new equipment the county installed on the tower. Which made the old antenna illegal. We are not IBOC. Our new transmitter is HD ready but we are not HD.

The reason the 95.1 was put up was because how the original antenna was not hitting the burlington area clearly. The 88.9 is still spotty in the area and the 95.1 has done a nice job clearing that up. What is really nice is the RDS, which I know is not in every radio but if the signal gets weak it looks for one of the other WBZC frequencies and switches to it.

I think there has to be a rationale for not choosing 92.9 mHz. You can't license that channel in Philly- I think XTU and MMR will object and have in the past. So you guys squoze it in where you could, with dubious results. It looks better to anyone wanting to write off a big chunk of dough when an admin says, "We have a radio station with three frequencies!" I don't think you get the response of "Well, what is the ERP of these new channels?" Just stick it in the brocure. Good selling point all round. You did it because you could, so you did. There's a Sherrie Bobbins song in there somewhere.

Someone meintioned WRTI, they received their HD upgrade on a federal grant. Our federal grant whcih was a match grant was to pay for a new transmitter and antenna, which we had to buy because the county had to move us down on the tower. So how is that a waste of taxpayers money? That was a need. The translator was not expensive at all, which was not bought off a grant.

This is not entirely clear here. Do you mean that you needed a new tower because of the IBOC transmitter system, or because of the county needing to relocate your analog antenna, or both? Please clarify.

You know its funny, I see people here bitching and moaning about how all these radio stations stink or have no talent. Here I am trying to teach some young people the craft that we all love and there are some people on here calling it a waste of time because you cant get a job in radio. I wish I had the training that these kids are getting. I didnt learn a thing about broadcasting when I went to school except for the history which the last time I checked didnt get you a job behind the mic. None of my classes taught you how to hit a post, how scheduling software works or how to create imaging. They are getting learn all this and a lot more.

Well, how did the big guys do it? Ultimately, they threw in, in a professional situation. Yes, there is a need for technical training. I don't think that 'hitting the post' should be an important facet. You can pick that up by listening to radio. Imaging? You mean another HUNDRED jerkasses with the same ten movie clips and synth jingle packages? Does radio need that? How about teaching people how to read the news properly, how not to pronounce things like a rube, how to use punctuation, you know, communication skills? Not for the radio, really, I've been to South Jersey is all...

So again if you want to complain go right ahead, Im proud of what we as a station have accomplished in a little over a year.

Me being the nice guy that I am if anyone wants to come see the station I am inviting you up just email me at [email protected] or call me at 609-894-9311 ext. 1189

Personally, I don't think IBOC should even be allowed in the Non-Comm band. Analog works fine, and despite the fact that the students 'won't be moving into the 21st century', I think the basic operation is the same. The same crap that goes in one end comes out of the other-that is, with the proper equipment. Maybe IBOC will be the best lesson of all-the marketplace in action.

I think your money would've been better spent on an internet stream royalty coverage (which I don't think you're entirely up to speed on) and have that presence on the internet. WiFi is coming to Philly, and is available in your local coffee joint. That would be very forward-thinking, and really be a valuable lesson.
 
Internet Stream we are completely up to speed with and we are waiting to see what happens with this bill. There are many more issues with it than just the money.
 
Those RRRRs said:
88.9 is doesn't come in at all in Bass River Township... Seems WBZC is becoming more of a "Philly wanna-be" every day...

I noticed that as well. And why would they want to be a "Philly wanna-be?" After all, everyone knows that hundreds of thousands of people and potential listeners come from miles around to Ernest Bass River Township to watch The Eagles, Phillies, Flyers and 76'rs play.

There is not one fine restaurant in Philly...nope, you gotta go to Bass River Township for the finest cuisine. In fact, didn't the McDonald's there win "Fast Food Restaurant of the Year" a few summers ago?

There is no need to go to The Forrest Theatre. Everyone knows that The Ernest Bass River Township Elementary School puts on Award Winning Broadway style shows just about every month.

And The Smithsonian, Art Museum, Franklin Institute? What a waste they are. Why would anyone spend time at those places in Philly when they could very easily drive over the bridge into Bass River Township and check out The Eighth Wonder of the World, that pile of shiny rocks on the side of the road between the junk yard and the gas station.

Kudos to you and your staff, Brett, for the fine job you do at WBZC, one of the best sounding college stations on the air, and don't pay attention to the condescending and arrogant remarks about the station. Most people who have heard it appreciate your efforts.

And as far as tax monies go, in case you haven't noticed, if you make the same amount of money every week, that you pay the same amount in taxes every week. Period. It's not as if, if WBZC didn't exist that you would pay less money in taxes. And the last time I checked, there was no WBZC Tax on my pay stub. Sure, I'd like to pay less taxes, but I'm not going to with or without WBZC. At least they're spending some of our tax dollars on something worthwhile like a college radio station in addition to that $600 toilet seat.

Thank you for the kind words. We are a work in progess but we are getting better every day. My voice over guy has been a major help
 
Dancerev889 said:
Internet Stream we are completely up to speed with and we are waiting to see what happens with this bill. There are many more issues with it than just the money.
Well, why just take it down altogether? Go to kcrw.org and see what they're doing with the stream.
 
Dancerev889 said:
Mike D said:
I'll agree that WBZC does need a Mount Holly translator. In "town" neither 88.9 or or 95.1 come in clear. The downtown campus of BCC does need a station with a stronger signal to connect with the Pemberton & Mount Laurel campuses.

I have to disagree with your statement about a satellite campus "needing" a translator to connect with the main campus. It's called the internet - web sites, e-mail, student newspaper, blogs, myspace, etc. That's how college kids communicate today.

You know its funny, I see people here bitching and moaning about how all these radio stations stink or have no talent. Here I am trying to teach some young people the craft that we all love and there are some people on here calling it a waste of time because you cant get a job in radio. I wish I had the training that these kids are getting. I didnt learn a thing about broadcasting when I went to school except for the history which the last time I checked didnt get you a job behind the mic. None of my classes taught you how to hit a post, how scheduling software works or how to create imaging. They are getting learn all this and a lot more.

I, for one, am not complaining about your program or WBZC itself. I only have an issue with the FCC allowing translators on an already packed band and on an already packed channel. You were lucky enough to get a 10kw FM station near Philadelphia, which is a heck of a lot bigger than what Camden County College, Drexel, Mercer County, etc. have - program to, and super-serve, the area that you cover with a solid signal.
 
Brett,

As a side note to all of this... I don't know what kind of coverage you guy expect from all this, but I can't pick up 100.7 in my car in front of my house, which is only about 1 block behind RV High School. The signal is somewhat useless.

-Mike
 
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