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WCBS-FM Getting Into Hip-Hop!

This is NOT our father's CBS-FM. At 12:14 this afternoon for the first time in their history the station played, "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang. Rick Stacy said he is the first one on the station to ever play rap.


I hope this is not a sign of things to come where we'll hear Jam Master Jay, Curtis Blow, the Fat Boys and their like. All of this music belongs on Hot 97 not CBS-FM.



Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
I believe "White Lines" was played during a Top 20 countdown last winter. This is just a cross promotion for the Disco Ball show in AC that CBS FM has been promoting. I wouldn't want to hang the distance between Rapper's Delight and the next rap song on CBS FM.
 
Let me correct myself it was Broadway Bill Lee who's on the air as I post who played "Rapper's Delight" a little over an hour ago.

AndreJesus calmed my nerves and told me it was only a promotion for the event tonight at Atlantic City.



Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
You got (Hot 97) WQHT & (Power 1051) WWPR and even WHTZ-100 to hear Rap.

For rock you've got WAXQ-1043, WRXP and WXRK-Rock for Heavy Metal.

CBS-FM does not need to stretch itself too thin by going all over the board by playing either genre.





Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
I do agree with that. but rap stations do the same thing and play a quick jusin timberlake song, and he's not hiphop at all. its just good to see hiphop is invading other stations as well. and for the record, sugar hill gang is not hiphop. they were the first boy band of rap and a gimic to make record sales by marketing to a non hiphop crowd. they didnt even write their own songs and stole huge ammounts of material from grand Master Caz. they should be considered the firsts astrocity of hiphop.
 
[WXRK-Rock for Heavy Metal.
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Wait, what XRK are you listening too, i'd like to hear that. The one i'm hearing plays tired old geezer safe rock, I believe is called 92.3 lame-rock. Where your interactive rock playlist doesn't mean jack, "we can't play slipknot, that type of music scares us".
 
Hmm, "Rapper's Delight", "White Lines", "The Message" are one of the few rap songs playing on CBS-FM? This station must be a joke! Play it on 96.1 "Kiss-FM" in Poughkeepsie during lunch break under "Throwback Lunch" and play "Rapper's Delight" and you'll get the idea.
 
Hip Hop is already dead. Has been for a few years. Kanye West was the last big star of the genre.

Rapper's Delight, Rapture, and that Chaka Khan song are good crossover tunes. But CBS-FM is not going to start playing rap regularly, any more than the Jack-type formats do. Rap is incredibly polarizing, and CBS-FM goes for mainstream.

And that's a good thing. Can't stand rap, especially the "gangsta" junk. Misogynist, violent, materialistic dreck.
 
Hardrocker9, I've always associated Guns 'N' Roses and Motley Crew as Heavy Metal. What do you consider Heavy Metal? K-Rock at times is a little too hard for my ears to take.

Scooty930, if Rap is dying, what has taken its place, is it Alternative Rock?



Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
Correction Scooty430


Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD! I just heard people was saying that. ive been in this since the 80's hiphop just went back to its roots and left the mainstream radio. the example is you think kanye west is hiphop. kanye west is more of an emo rap artist with r&b hooks on every song. you cant get hiphp on main stream radio, but you can get it on the IIourshow with indie artist that dont have ghost writers!
 
Hey Kevin!

Do you remember the topic I brought up on the other board when CBS-FM returned to oldies and started leaning towards the 80's? I've looked and can't find that thread but I brought up the fact that if CBS was going to get into to the 80's, that rap (aka: hip-hop) couldn't be ignored since the music was beginning to rise in popularity back then. Sugarhill Gang's "Rappers Delight" was a huge local hit here!

Now, I was only suggesting the fun stuff....Run-DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow, etc and NOT the "gangsta/politically relevant" material, but there seemed to be an uproar about it. Back in the 80's (and I know this because I went through HELL in my college with my rap show in those days), the general public outside of the urban communities wanted nothing to do with rap....and that same crowd (the 40 somethings) for the most part feel the same way! It was about 1986 that I would say that things had started to change where things became polarized musically and that's where the mass appeal shifted over to the niches.

Having said that, could you imagine how CBS-FM is going to sound in 2018? The new "oldies" crowd (that are now in their late 20's and early 30's will have been saturated with hip-hop, along with pop & R&B so even the stronger material (Public Enemy and Tupac) can't be ignored. I would think the 90's and early 00's would be the strong lean as some of the audience from the 50's, 60's and 70's will have died off.
 
I can ride with you on that tony. but in my hood, we loved hiphop and im proud to have worked with alot of the hiphop icons i had in my tape deck. like i said i work with new up & comming hiphopers and old skool artist as well so in the word of the emcee Nile Hardin, "If hiphop is dead/I found out late/I must have missed the wake. that term is a crazy statement on the underground hiphop scene. we dont deal with the so called bling bling gansta crap, the original were NWA Ice T etc. they cant be replaced. a list of some real emcees:

digable Planets
Kool Moe Dee
KRS ONE
EPMD
Kurtis Blow
Run DMC
GrandMaster Flash & the Furious 5
Eric B & Rakim
Wu-Tang
Salt N Pepa
Dougie Fresh
Slick Rick
LL. Cool J
Biggie Smalls
Tupac
Big L
and the list goes on.....
 
Not to bogart this thread to another direction, and I will steer it back to the main topic....but hip-hop IS at a crossroads.

Sales have dropped off and it seemed as if a lot of the fans that have supported it are beginning to wean off. It doesn't make hip-hop dead, to say the least. But there has to be a "reinvention" somehow.

Bringing Pulse 87 into this, the one thing I have picked up on during the Star & Buc Wild parties at Plumm....the crowd there, that would have been staunchly hip-hop has started embracing DANCE MUSIC! As a matter of, I've been getting many friend requests as of late from hip-hop artists....some of them MAJOR! The one suggestion I've been throwing out lately is that if hip-hop artists want to embrace the dance music community (as I am embracing them!), that they might want to do a subgenre of dance that was big for a relatively short time, but did make an impact with artists such as Doug Lazy and The Jungle Brothers.....HIP-HOUSE.

In this day and age, especially with our economy, people want to have fun again. And when you consider that hip-hop's early roots came from disco, there was always that connection. It might have been "lost" somewhere along the journey but it's time that the connection comes back. Hip house should make that return and honestly, it doesn't knock down any "cred" issues or "street rep". If anything, it's reaching out to new ground somehow....IMHO.

Back to CBS.....hey, is that "White Lines?" :)
 
simple, hard rock is anything that lame-rock doesn't play, to name a few The Red, Godsmack, killswitch engaged, metallica, megadeth, drowning pool, sevendust, disturbed, black label society.... should i go on?
 
IIourshow on WNJC 1360am said:
I can ride with you on that tony. but in my hood, we loved hiphop and im proud to have worked with alot of the hiphop icons i had in my tape deck. like i said i work with new up & comming hiphopers and old skool artist as well so in the word of the emcee Nile Hardin, "If hiphop is dead/I found out late/I must have missed the wake. that term is a crazy statement on the underground hiphop scene. we dont deal with the so called bling bling gansta crap, the original were NWA Ice T etc. they cant be replaced. a list of some real emcees:

digable Planets
Kool Moe Dee
KRS ONE
EPMD
Kurtis Blow
Run DMC
GrandMaster Flash & the Furious 5
Eric B & Rakim
Wu-Tang
Salt N Pepa
Dougie Fresh
Slick Rick
LL. Cool J
Biggie Smalls
Tupac
Big L
and the list goes on.....

Never lived or visited NYC, but what stations played hip hop back in the 80s? I know HOt 97 wasn't around at the time.
 
Kevin L. Sealy seems to imply that WWPR (Power 105), WQHT (Hot 97) and WHTZ (Z-100) will satisfy any fans of hip-hop/rap in the market. I tend to disagree with that statement. All three stations definitely cater to a younger demo - in fact, I can't imagine anyone over 30 listening to any of them. Excluding the special features that pop up (usually on a weekday afternoon), it's all modern stuff and you seldom ever hear anything from earlier than 2003 or so. That means they play lots of hip-pop like Soulja Boy Tell 'Em, Hurricane Chris, VIC, Flo Rida, T-Pain, etc. Worse still, they also play stuff like Justin Timberlake and Rihanna that I don't think any hip-hop fan wants to hear. Both stations seem to throw on tracks like that to target Z-100 listeners. And speaking of Z - seriously? Z? If you can get past the Miley Cyrus and Jonas Brothers, you might just hear some played-out hip-hop track that might be fresh to Grandma, but absolutely no one else. If you want to hear old-school hip hop - Afrika Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, Kurtis Blow, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, KRS-ONE, EPMD, NWA, Geto Boys, Tupac Shakur, pretty much anything else from the '80s & '90s - it's non-existent on NYC airwaves. They assume that fans of this type of music have given up and started listening to Fresh or PLJ? Somehow I highly doubt that.

Starting with this decade, the driving force in hip-hop shifted from the MC to the producer. These days, songs on the Urban charts seem to be more notable for their beats than for their lyrics. This decade will go down in history as being rap's "hair metal" phase, as most hit songs seem to be about getting laid more than anything else. Those who enjoyed hip-hop for the MCs with their distinctive flows and intelligent lyrics really have nowhere to go. None of the aforementioned options are going to satisfy these people.

Mr. Sealy also seems to suggest that all the bases are covered when it comes to rock. As a rock fan, I take major exception of that. RXP does have some surprising selections, but they are extremely frustrating since they are all over the place musically. Other threads have mentioned that they go from ZZ Top to Beck, Boston to The Kooks, Aerosmith to Arcade Fire, Guns N' Roses to Mike Doughty, etc. They try to please all rock fans and end up pleasing none of them with this approach. My advice to them would be to leave the classic rock behind and go with a smart Alternative approach like Indie or FNX. Q 104.3 is what it is - your token classic rock station. It's dependable in delivering tried-and-true hits, mostly from the '70s, but a lot of people will find it boring. Don't even get me started on K-Rock. K-Rock is also for all intents and purposes a classic rock station, only leaning a little more toward Def Leppard, Van Halen, Guns N' Roses and acts whose heyday was in the '80s. They play some new music - and by "some" I mean about 5 or 10 songs tops. And it's all extremely safe chart-topping songs, many of which can be heard elsewhere in the market, i.e. the new Nickelback single (which is awful, for the record). If you're looking for the heavier bands that Hardrocker9 listed in the previous post, you're out of luck. Ditto for most Alternative acts as well. Yes, they're playing the new Kings Of Leon song, but that's only because they're promoting a KOL gig at MSG. K-Rock's ratings have hit rock bottom because they are everything a rock station should never be - tired, predictable and boring.

NYC does have lots of frequencies. Too bad many of them are going to waste with the same old junk.
 
SoulCrusher said:
Kevin L. Sealy seems to imply that WWPR (Power 105), WQHT (Hot 97) and WHTZ (Z-100) will satisfy any fans of hip-hop/rap in the market. I tend to disagree with that statement. All three stations definitely cater to a younger demo - in fact, I can't imagine anyone over 30 listening to any of them.

Here are the real facts.

In persons 30 and over...

WCBS FM reaches 2,722,000 each week, per the most recent book.
WHTZ reaches 2,849,000.

WWPR reaches 1.8 million over 30, and WQHT reaches 1.65 million
 
Kevin L. Sealy said:
You got (Hot 97) WQHT & (Power 1051) WWPR and even WHTZ-100 to hear Rap.


There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between RAP and HIP HOP!!

Rap is awesome...... HIP HOP IS UTTER GARBAGE!! ("Todays" hip hop anyway)

Hot 97 is trash and I assume the other 2 you listed also play this garbage (They are a waste of airspace))
 
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