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WCBS-FM has Problems with their Music Format Playlist

Oldies76
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I wonder how Majic 102 in Florida is doing?? That's where Bob is now, correct?
DavidEduardo
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They just had the worst book since Summer of 2001... below a 3.0 for the first time in 7 years. It's been slipping for a long time. In 25-54, they are hovering around 11th and 12th in the market.
Wow, that bad....I thought with Bob there, things would be running high.

Then, what makes an oldies / classic hits station work well these days, besides good on-air talent and music?

It's a tough battle it seems...very tough!

I guess I'd better enjoy CBS and KRTH now, while I can..because things could be worse!!
 
CBS FM pop quiz

Speaking of CBS music, at the top of the 11 am hour Bob Shannon has played an interesting set, with one song decidedly not being like the others in tone. Can you guess which one seems out of place on CBS, at least in this set? I will say I was very surprised to hear it especially given the song that preceded it.

1. Hello I Love You ( The Doors)
2. September ( Earth, Wind, and Fire)
3. Jumping Jack Flash ( The Rolling Stones)
4. What You Won't Do For Love ( Bobby Caldwell)
5. Doctor My Eyes ( Jackson Browne)
6. Mony Mony ( Tommy James and the Shondells)
 
Doctor My Eyes? (the song that was out of place) played after "What You Won't Do For Love" ?

Did it (the oddity of the song choice) have something to do with what our newly appointed ,legally blind governor who admitted to infidelity and spending state dollars on hotel rooms "won't do for love"? :)

That's my only guess. Otherwise I'm stumped.
 
Well I was thinking of What You Won't Do For Love. It came after three generally upbeat tunes including a disco song September and immediately after a classic rock tune from the Rolling Stones. All of the songs before and after are generally upbeat tunes while WYDFL is generally a slow romantic ballad.

Hello I Love You ( classic rock)
September ( Disco)
Jumping Jack Flash ( classic rock)
Doctor My Eyes ( classic rock)
Mony Money ( classic rock)
What You Won't Do For Love ( R&B)
 
Yup, that makes sense too. A slow ballad following more upbeat songs.

One other reason I'd pick Doctor My Eyes, is that is more of an AOR song. One that is played on the new CBS, but probably wasn't on the old CBS prior to 2005. All the others are classic hits, while Jackson Browne is more AOR.

Kinda like that old thread/argument on the Dentist Board where he was complaining about "Radar Love" being on their playlist.
 
Doctor My Eyes is from 1972 a HUGE Top 10 Hit! I don't recall "What You Won't Do For Love" being that big of a HIT,#59 on Billboards Top 100 for 1979.The ONLY Top 40 Hit Caldwell has ever had.

Tommy James & The Shondells Mony,Mony is NOT A Classic Rock Hit as LIradiofan suggested above.There was a Re-Make that is a Classic Rock Staple by Billy Idol...that person may be getting the Two Versions Confused?
 
"Doctor My Eyes" wasn't that huge a hit in 1972 (#8, I believe), and I'll betcha it ranked even lower on that year's Billboard Top 100 than WYWDFL in 1979.
 
adma said:
"Doctor My Eyes" wasn't that huge a hit in 1972 (#8, I believe), and I'll betcha it ranked even lower on that year's Billboard Top 100 than WYWDFL in 1979.
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number 8 out of how many? any song that makes the top ten constitutes a hit.you make it sound like a falure.
 
I'm not denying that it was a hit. But Bobby Caldwell's hit was also Top 10--Froggy's presenting it as if Caldwell was a flop by comparison...
 
adma said:
I'm not denying that it was a hit. But Bobby Caldwell's hit was also Top 10--Froggy's presenting it as if Caldwell was a flop by comparison...
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At the time I Could'nt find the Weekly Ranking for that Bobby Caldwell song...so,I'm sorry that wasn't a fair comparison.

I just found my Joel Whitburn book!!!So we can put this to rest....

While Doctor My Eyes was a #8 TOP 40 Billboard Chart Hit in 1972

What You Won't Do For Love did reach #9 in 1979

So BOTH Songs were Bonafide TOP 10 HITS!
 
Exactly. And given the number of Top 10s in any calendar year, #59 for a year isn't as bad as it looks.

(Wasn't that eternal oldies staple, Van Morrison's "Brown-Eyed Girl", only a #10 hit or something?)
 
adma said:
Exactly. And given the number of Top 10s in any calendar year, #59 for a year isn't as bad as it looks.

(Wasn't that eternal oldies staple, Van Morrison's "Brown-Eyed Girl", only a #10 hit or something?)
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Correct....Brown Eyed Girl (Which wasn't Van Morrison's Highest Charting Hit) was #10 on 8/19/67.

Actually DOMINO (When is the last time you heard that?) peaked at #9 on 12/5/70.
 
Okay...for those of you who think chart position matters....
can you tell me where these classic radio mainstays charted?

1) ALL MY LOVING (Beatles)
2) CATCH A WAVE (Beach Boys)
3) UNDER MY THUMB (Rolling Stones)
4) STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (Led Zeppelin)

See a trend??
 
(BacknUSSR) Okay...for those of you who think chart position matters....
can you tell me where these classic radio mainstays charted?

1) ALL MY LOVING (Beatles)
2) CATCH A WAVE (Beach Boys)
3) UNDER MY THUMB (Rolling Stones)
4) STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (Led Zeppelin)

See a trend??
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"All My Loving" charted in 1964 on Billboard's Hot 100, peaking at 45

The others were huge on radio, but were not released as singles (I believe), therefore did not chart.
"Stairway to Heaven" is around 8 minutes long and could not fit on a 45 RPM in 1971.

I guess that's why "American Pie" at 8:30 was divided into 2 parts on Side A & B on its 45.
 
oldies76 said:
(BacknUSSR) Okay...for those of you who think chart position matters....
can you tell me where these classic radio mainstays charted?

1) ALL MY LOVING (Beatles)
2) CATCH A WAVE (Beach Boys)
3) UNDER MY THUMB (Rolling Stones)
4) STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN (Led Zeppelin)

See a trend??
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"All My Loving" charted in 1964 on Billboard's Hot 100, peaking at 45

The others were huge on radio, but were not released as singles (I believe), therefore did not chart.
"Stairway to Heaven" is around 8 minutes long and could not fit on a 45 RPM in 1971.

I guess that's why "American Pie" at 8:30 was divided into 2 parts on Side A & B on its 45.
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My point being, past chart position has very little to do with audience response to a song today.
 
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When will I hear Debbie Boone - You Light Up My Life? Hopefully the answer to that question is....NEVER!!
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Well I don't think CBS Radio has a high opinion of that one, considering that it was used in FRESH's initial ad campaign as an example of a "tired old song" (which is why I won't listen to it, not so much as they insulted YLUML, but that they are implying that aged songs are "tired")

To me, CBS-FM needs MOOOOOOOOOORE DUSTY SPRINGFIELD! I need some radio Dusty Moments, stat!
 
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