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[DToTheJ]

They play all eight minutes of it?

WPLJ played that song all through the '90s, and yes, they left in the full "play-by-play."

As does Q104 today when they play the song; I was inquiring about whether or not CBS-FM has left the "play-by-play" intact. Holy cow!

 

[davideduardo]

Congrats to CBS-FM. Persons 6+ in one trend doesn't mean much, but it gives us something to write about here and brings out the 'fan' in all of us.

The May book is just that... a book. There are no "trends" in PPM because it is a panel based system, not a weekly changing sample.

There are also weeklies, but they are not released except to the subscribing stations.

 

[Element9]

The May book is just that... a book. There are no "trends" in PPM because it is a panel based system, not a weekly changing sample. There are also weeklies, but they are not released except to the subscribing stations.

Thanks Dave for clarifying this. I might've responded with a "I knew that" but the fact is, I missed it. Appreciate the reminder. -9-

 

[Mike Sheridan]

Cling to the old ways if you must "Old A"

So from their point of view, and they're the ones with the money, it is YOU who is clinging to the old ways, Mike.

Uh actually no, I'm not listening to the radio either.

Doesn't anyone sell direct anymore? There used to be retailers who would buy a schedule on a station because they liked the format and many of their customers did too. There are other places to to find money than just agency buys. There has to be. Sure it will take more work but it just might pay off.

 

[TheBigA]

Doesn't anyone sell direct anymore? There used to be retailers who would buy a schedule on a station because they liked the format and many of their customers did too.

There used to be local business. There used to be downtown. Local department stores. Before all the national chains came in. Now people can shop at Macy's anywhere. It's not just in New York. The small local retailers have had to cut their margins to compete with the chains, leaving little money left for advertising. It's nice to remember. But for many people, it's all ancient history.

 

[Silkie]

Doesn't anyone sell direct anymore? There used to be retailers who would buy a schedule on a station because they liked the format and many of their customers did too.

There used to be local business. There used to be downtown. Local department stores. Before all the national chains came in. Now people can shop at Macy's anywhere. It's not just in New York. The small local retailers have had to cut their margins to compete with the chains, leaving little money left for advertising. It's nice to remember. But for many people, it's all ancient history.

For those of us who were there, however, it was a great time.

 

[Mike Sheridan]

Doesn't anyone sell direct anymore? There used to be retailers who would buy a schedule on a station because they liked the format and many of their customers did too.

There used to be local business. There used to be downtown. Local department stores. Before all the national chains came in. Now people can shop at Macy's anywhere. It's not just in New York. The small local retailers have had to cut their margins to compete with the chains, leaving little money left for advertising. It's nice to remember. But for many people, it's all ancient history.

Okay thanks, now we get to the route of the issue and in the back of my mind I expected that was the case. It must me next to impossible for the small local AM stations to stay on the air.

 

[Bob1370]

"As exciting as it seems, that number isn't as important as the revenues figure. Even though they're #1 in the city, they rank near Fresh in revenues. Long term, something will need to be done to address that"

Given both big numbers and healthy demos, there is NO excuse at this point for WCBS-FM not being one of the half-dozen top billers in the market. Clearly Dan Mason and co. have the right programming in place with the right people doing it...now it's time to examine the sales management and staff, and start getting the same results on the bottom line that their stablemates like WFAN, WINS and WCBS-AM are getting...

 

[lalumia]

How groovy it was to turn on the radio this morning and hear "I'm Henry The Eighth I Am" by Herman's Hermits from 1965 on NY's #1 radio station; yee har!!!

 

[Element9]

How groovy it was to turn on the radio this morning and hear "I'm Henry The Eighth I Am" by Herman's Hermits from 1965 on NY's #1 radio station; yee har!!!

There's one that would force this 45+ Male to press scan. "Wonderful World" would keep me around to hear the next Classic.

 

[TheBigA]

now it's time to examine the sales management and staff, and start getting the same results on the bottom line that their stablemates like WFAN, WINS and WCBS-AM are getting...

Now? Why now? The station has been in the Top 5 for several years. The simple fact is that in almost every market where this format is on the air, it's successful in the ratings, but a laggard in revenues. It's not the fault of the sales staff. If management makes the kinds of changes required to improve revenues, it will have a negative effect on ratings, and the core audience will be on this board complaining.

 

[disney fanatic]

Here is what CBS-FM needs to do when the station is #1:

1. Bring back the reverb! CBS-FM hasn't done using a reverb during the last 6 years when Joe McCoy left the station back in 2004 until Dave Logan came along right up until the very end of the station when "Jack" came in.
2. Bring back the old jingles from 25 years ago. That's right! CBS-FM needs to bring back the classic jingles when that station exist back in the 80's and 90's when it was "New York's Oldies Station", such as "We play your favorite oldies, CBS-FM". Here is a sample of it from Don Swaim's website:

http://donswaim.com/wcbs-fm-jingles.mp3

3. Make the station a lot better and see who can still be #1 if CBS-FM does well.

That's all you do! CBS-FM needs to turn the reverb back on if Brian Thomas needs to do, and make the station unique with lots of reverb, the way Joe McCoy did when he was PD at CBS-FM at the time. Bring the reverb back and the station #1!

 

[bigtom101]

How groovy it was to turn on the radio this morning and hear "I'm Henry The Eighth I Am" by Herman's Hermits from 1965 on NY's #1 radio station; yee har!!!

That can only mean 1 thing - the jock was running late, and needed a short song to get to the legal ID after the wx. A/C jocks use Del Amitri's "Roll To Me" for the same purpose...my fav song to use is KC & The Sunshine Band's "Boogie Shoes."

 

[DToTheJ]

How about American Breed's "Bend Me, Shape Me (2:09)?

 

[DToTheJ]

Here is what CBS-FM needs to do when the station is #1:

1. Bring back the reverb! ...
2. Bring back the old jingles from 25 years ago. That's right! CBS-FM needs to bring back the classic jingles when that station exist back in the 80's and 90's when it was "New York's Oldies Station", such as "We play your favorite oldies, CBS-FM"...

Remember, the "O" word is now considered a "four-letter word" on CBS-FM, as it is on most of the "classic hits" (or shall I say, "greatest hits") stations. Be lucky you still get the same "101 Weather" music bed that's been used by CBS-FM from its previous incarnation.

With that said, I'm a fan of reverb, but it's something that was prevalent to the old "Musicradio" era, and that just might make the current listening audience think the station sounds old (see above regarding the "O" word ;D ).

 

[bigtom101]

Remember, the "O" word is now considered a "four-letter word" on CBS-FM, as it is on most of the "classic hits" (or shall I say, "greatest hits") stations. Be lucky you still get the same "101 Weather" music bed that's been used by CBS-FM from its previous incarnation.

With that said, I'm a fan of reverb, but it's something that was prevalent to the old "Musicradio" era, and that just might make the current listening audience think the station sounds old (see above regarding the "O" word ;D ).

The station uses edits of the PAMS resings from 1989 on occasion...with references to "oldies" edited out. I wish they would get them resung so that the edits aren't so jarring, but I guess the budget is elsewhere. And the JAM Top 40 WLS/WABC jingle packages sound really great on air, like they do at sister stations WODS & WOGL.

 

[TheBigA]

I wish they would get them resung so that the edits aren't so jarring, but I guess the budget is elsewhere.

It's not that expensive to do a resing. JAM owns the copyrights of the PAMS jingles. My question would be the condition of the master. Can it be resung without changing the character of the original?

Speaking of masters, I was doing research last night on Neil Diamond, and read that the original master recording of "A Little Bit Me" by the Monkees doesn't exist any more. I thought that was interesting, although off the subject.

 

[bigtom101]

It's not that expensive to do a resing. JAM owns the copyrights of the PAMS jingles. My question would be the condition of the master. Can it be resung without changing the character of the original?

Speaking of masters, I was doing research last night on Neil Diamond, and read that the original master recording of "A Little Bit Me" by the Monkees doesn't exist any more. I thought that was interesting, although off the subject.

Given that the originals were done 21 years ago, the whole jingle would have to be re done, at least the vocals. But the music track masters are fine as far as I know, so it would be a matter of rewriting the lyrics to the cuts, then re singing them.

And many of the master recordings of yesteryear are lost....tapes get thrown out by mistake, overwritten, and some are just plain stolen. And then there's the question of who has what multitrack, etc. And some people like Phil Spector just won't let anything be remastered....then again, Phil has other issues