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WCCO Take Call On Air From "DXer"!

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wkbam1690

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In the 5 AM hour this morning, WCCO 830 (while running IBOC) took a call from a Minnesota listener returning from Florida, I think it was. They were driving through Nashville, and were calling to comment on our impending snow storm, which they had heard about on 'CCO. Dave Lee said to the effect that it was nice they were picking up the station down there.

Shouldn't he have scolded the listener, and told them to IMMEDIATELY tune to WSM or one of the other local Nashville stations, pointing out that the listener was obviously well outside of WCCO's NIF zone?

I'm only half-joking, because at the very moment they were putting this call on the air, they were pumping out IBOC hash on 820 and 840. Doesn't this seem like trying to have it both ways?
 
Hey, this radio business is a dog eat dog world, who the hell cares about your neighbors? The hell with 'em, it's every man for himself. We'll cull the herd with this IBOC stuff, yeah that's the ticket, we'll drive all the little guys out of business and make all the dough ourselves, we'll jam them all to hell, think of the ad revenues, yippee!!!
 
In my neck of the woods, on my Chrysler AM radio, the IBOC buzz is worse 20KHz away then it is on the 1st ajacent, so it's likely the WCCO buzz was on WSM's audio - UNLESS, he was listening on an HD radio - which DOES have a pretty decent HD Buzz filter in it, restoring analog reception 20KHz away.
 
JohnnyElectron said:
In my neck of the woods, on my Chrysler AM radio, the IBOC buzz is worse 20KHz away then it is on the 1st ajacent, so it's likely the WCCO buzz was on WSM's audio - UNLESS, he was listening on an HD radio - which DOES have a pretty decent HD Buzz filter in it, restoring analog reception 20KHz away.
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I've noticed that in Dallas, my GM-Bose car radio will occasionally stop on an AM IBOC side band when the "seek" button is pushed. It sounds wonderful with a subwoofer.... :eek:
 
Chuck said:
JohnnyElectron said:
In my neck of the woods, on my Chrysler AM radio, the IBOC buzz is worse 20KHz away then it is on the 1st ajacent, so it's likely the WCCO buzz was on WSM's audio - UNLESS, he was listening on an HD radio - which DOES have a pretty decent HD Buzz filter in it, restoring analog reception 20KHz away.
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I've noticed that in Dallas, my GM-Bose car radio will occasionally stop on an AM IBOC side band when the "seek" button is pushed. It sounds wonderful with a subwoofer.... :eek:
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Yes. HD Radio seems to be radio broadcasting's secret plan to hiss loudly and drive all radio listeners away from AM and FM toward iPods, MP3's, podcasts, sat. and internet radio. Dumb, but very beneficial if your not an AM or FM broadcaster!

With a 10 times power increase of the already very noisy HD Radio sidebands pending, that should about finish off any AM or FM listening.
 
Over the air radio has had excellent aim at repeatedly shooting it's deranged self in the foot. Soon it will be totally "defeeted". Now they'll be moving the HD power up to machine gun levels! Wow, that's progress.
 
Well it could be either the end of radio or hopefully the end of the useless iBlock high school experiment.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
With a 10 times power increase of the already very noisy HD Radio sidebands pending, that should about finish off any AM or FM listening.
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Oh, how I hope you're kidding! A 10 x power increase for the hash? That will virtually destroy the AM band. And, it won't do FM any favors either. This has to stop! :mad:
 
BRNout said:
SUPERCASTER said:
With a 10 times power increase of the already very noisy HD Radio sidebands pending, that should about finish off any AM or FM listening.
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Oh, how I hope you're kidding! A 10 x power increase for the hash? That will virtually destroy the AM band. And, it won't do FM any favors either. This has to stop! :mad:
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The potential 10dB power increase applies to FM HD only.

(it won't help the interference situation on FM any, but it won't make AM any worse than it already is...)
 
w9wi said:
The potential 10dB power increase applies to FM HD only.
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Perhaps, but remember the FCC has given the HD cartel virtually everything it has requested (or even hinted at) in spite of massive objections from all but a tiny few hard core HD supporters who have a strongly biased HD interest, propaganda and agenda.
 
From the "famous-last-words-department" --

Nobody is suggesting - seriously or otherwise - that digital power levels for IBOC-AM be increased. As it is the adjacent-channel problems are a huge problem, far greater than what's being found (so far) on FM. Plus if the interest level in HD-FM represents a bucket in the ocean of overall radio listening, the interest in AM-HD is a tiny droplet on the windshield. So there would be no upside but immense potential of more complaints and problems.
 
Savage said:
From the "famous-last-words-department" --

Nobody is suggesting - seriously or otherwise - that digital power levels for IBOC-AM be increased. As it is the adjacent-channel problems are a huge problem, far greater than what's being found (so far) on FM. Plus if the interest level in HD-FM represents a bucket in the ocean of overall radio listening, the interest in AM-HD is a tiny droplet on the windshield. So there would be no upside but immense potential of more complaints and problems.
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As I said, "perhaps", but time will tell.

The HD radio, iBiquity/NAB/HD cartel transition plans are clear, FCC documented, and plainly stated. Both analog AM and FM will end with all digital, everywhere, all the time and in the shortest, most direct timeline. That leaves little doubt that any station failing to convert to HD digital and remain analog will be S.O.L. according to their clearly stated objectives. Therefore, interference to what they consider "obsolete" analog stations is no concern to the HD cartel, their lobbyists, or perhaps the new "easily influenced" FCC.

The HD cartel will twist your talking points to show the transition to all digital IBOC should be accelerated to overcome the drag caused by obsolete analog stations.

I can hear it now. "If all analog stations just quit broadcasting then everyone would have to run out and buy one of our newfangled, problematic, expensive HD radios".

Please reexamine your assumptions in light of the HD radio cartel's clear objectives.
 
SUPERCASTER reminded us:

...remember the FCC has given the HD cartel virtually everything it has requested (or even hinted at) in spite of massive objections from all but a tiny few hard core HD supporters who have a strongly biased HD interest, propaganda and agenda.
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That fact alone should inspire everybody on here to do some serious thinking.

Remember, follow the money.
 
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