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WCIN veering away from Smooth Jazz?

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Puff the Dragon

I've heard people say that WCIN is set to start some weekend programming that is talk related and local? I wonder what Dark Soldier knows about this. I would never say nothing bad about the Soldier because Puff is a nice dragon.
 
Great. Let's clunk up the music flow with a sports talk show co-hosted by a freakin' caller with no radio experience. And we wonder why the radio biz sinks further into the abyss? This is about as ridiculous as WLW putting Sensible Don on the air. ???
 
That's really bad...and I just started listening online last week. Same sat feed as WDSJ which plays more soft adult contemporary and 80s urban contemporary than it does smooth jazz. It could be a little better...but hey,they're the only "smooth jazz" sat feed left after Jones Networks dunped theirs.

What part of locally originating REAL smooth jazz isn't understandable???

(right 'RPO?)
 
Everyone who wants to hear "jazz" needs to buy a high definition radio and listen to WGUC's 90.9-2 feed. It isn't streaming on the net, so you have to be able to receive it OTA. You won't listen to the Broadcast Architecture CRAP (what WCIN and WDSJ play) after listening to it.

Hurry up with some changes Darksoldier, the crew is beginning to mutiny.
 
Look or listen around the USA and you won't be asking questions like that!!!
 
Posting under the influence? you bad monkey!....shame shame shame, bad bad bad... I'll ask Laylia from the Renaissance festival to put a curse on you! ha-chi-chi-chi-chi!

Want REAL smooth jazz? GO here to KKJZ "K-Jazz" from Long Beach/LA

http://www.jazzandblues.com
(take THAT Broadcast Architecture !!!)
 
ouuc said:
Great. Let's clunk up the music flow with a sports talk show co-hosted by a freakin' caller with no radio experience. And we wonder why the radio biz sinks further into the abyss? This is about as ridiculous as WLW putting Sensible Don on the air. ???
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Comon...You know as well as anyone WHY this is...$$$$$$. If it's sponsored...it's on the air. I was gonna stay out of this conversation, but..Oh Well...

As far as the music flow, there won't be ANY if there is no REVENUE. If I have to give up 3 hours on a Saturday morning to help finance/improve the other 165 hours of the week...so be it. In fact, as far as I'm concerned Saturday and Sunday mornings are wide open for "supplementary" programming, if it accomplishes the goal of preserving and improving Smooth Jazz/Traditional Jazz service. I get a real kick out of listening to folk complain about stuff like this when prior to 2007, NAC was a defunct format in this market for around 8 years, and traditional for about 7. Want to go back to that?

If anyone would like to make it live and local 100% smooth/traditional jazz 24/7/365 I would, but let's get real here.

Major... EVERYBODY concurs that syndication is not the ideal way to do radio in almost any circumstance, AND that BA is sometimes to the extreme as an example of that premise, but the notion of orchestrating some massive mutiny to HD radios and GUC is far less practical than putting the DQ on the station for an EXTENDED period of time to SPONSOR what you, and those you seek to organize, want to hear.... HMMM? Now, of course I say that with a bit of sarcasm, as in this economy neither you, (nor others) may have the resources to do so, and are trying to hold on to your own assets... (pun intended). That said, the same is true for radio, and mutiny won't change the trajectory of the programming in the manner you seek, but rather acheive a format flip to something that ownership believes will generate REVENUE. We all know that owners don't believe poor numbers or revenue mean do the same basic thing differently, but rather gut the fish and start over. As far as changes are concerned, Skinny, Glenn, Sunday Morning...etc are part of the solution to attract the financeers of change. If someone wants change without pain....I say...get out their checkbooks.....OOPS ...that'll hurt.
 
Darksoldier,

You know I tried to help by sponsoring the Jones Smooth Jazz. I had some $$$ to spend then. I already must pay 3% royalty to IDQ, 3% for advertising to our local pool, etc,etc.etc. Tommy ain't had a paycheck for several years. I try to pay down debt, pay my employees more, live off my part-time UC professor money, ushering money, or do without.

By no means am I bad mouthing, but WCIN simply does not have the audience here in Clermont County. The signal is weak and spotty. You need top of the line radios like mine to get the signal properly.

I had no one ask for any of the BEACH passes when I did sponsor the station. That's how poor the Clermont County hillbilly audience for WCIN is. Eddie and I need an Arbitron diary.

By the way, I did not bad mouth Glen's show. In fact, I was the first "non set up caller". I wish the guys lots of luck. I want them to succeed, not fail.

You know my dry wit from talking to me all these years. I'm harmless, and hope my "mutiny" statement didn't P___ you off. Sorry if it did.

Happy Easter, one day late.
 
major said:
Darksoldier,

You know I tried to help by sponsoring the Jones Smooth Jazz. I had some $$$ to spend then. I already must pay 3% royalty to IDQ, 3% for advertising to our local pool, etc,etc.etc. Tommy ain't had a paycheck for several years. I try to pay down debt, pay my employees more, live off my part-time UC professor money, ushering money, or do without.

By no means am I bad mouthing, but WCIN simply does not have the audience here in Clermont County. The signal is weak and spotty. You need top of the line radios like mine to get the signal properly.

I had no one ask for any of the BEACH passes when I did sponsor the station. That's how poor the Clermont County hillbilly audience for WCIN is. Eddie and I need an Arbitron diary.

By the way, I did not bad mouth Glen's show. In fact, I was the first "non set up caller". I wish the guys lots of luck. I want them to succeed, not fail.

You know my dry wit from talking to me all these years. I'm harmless, and hope my "mutiny" statement didn't P___ you off. Sorry if it did.

Happy Easter, one day late.
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Major,

Picking up on sarcasm is not a strong suit I see.. ;D I was simply making the point you reiterated in your reply above. Its all about the money at the end of the day, and you didn't even begin to p___ me off. If someone were sponsoring mandolin jazz Saturday from 8-11, guess what would be on? YOU GOT IT....MANDOLIN JAZZ. It was OUUC who questioned the sports talk move, and he knows EXACTLY why we did it...and he didn't p____ me off either. I don't think you, or OUUC are bad mouthing WCIN, I think that the bad mouthing is toward the direction of the industry as a whole, and in this case...BA in particular, but that doesn't change the facts... Perhaps my matter of fact (and sarcastic) response to the entire conversation was misinterpreted. Radio has some recovering to do...some stations will...some won't, but it is about survival right now in almost EVERY case. Satellite is CHEAP....Revenues are DOWN....and until you, I, or somebody hits the friggin super lotto, everybody is gonna do what they have to do.

Happy Belated Resurrection Day!
 
Darksoldier,

You're the only one on this board I never want to offend, glad I didn't.

Dick Plessinger told me the only way to make money was the satellite, and that was about 3 years ago now.

One question I've never thought to ask when on the phone has been this: what cost savings are the new
owners looking at once WCIN/WDJO fall under one owner?
 
major said:
Darksoldier,

You're the only one on this board I never want to offend, glad I didn't.

Dick Plessinger told me the only way to make money was the satellite, and that was about 3 years ago now.

One question I've never thought to ask when on the phone has been this: what cost savings are the new
owners looking at once WCIN/WDJO fall under one owner?
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Major, you should know me well enough by now to know I don't offend easily....but I am also not very diplomatic either.....So much for the political career.


Well, Let me put it this way. When you can share certain obvious resources, you decrease cost of operation, and increase profitability. I don't completely agree with DP's statement on satellite, but if you don't begin to understand that a radio station is a big expensive marketing tool for what you REALLY do, decide what it is you want to own, or dominate, and execute that plan, then that IS the only way to turn a buck.
 
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