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WCSB Flips to Jazz
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PBS is more than cooking shows and Antiques Roadshow. But always entertaining to hear a silly stereotype before I got to bed.
Yes, and as with most commercial stations, no one is allowed to host a farewell show because they are afraid that the departing program host will unleash on the company, maybe with some obscenities (what are they going to do? Fire them?). Sometimes they allow it. I think Lanigan hosted a last show, but he was an old pro and wouldn't do anything stupid.
Tell me any public TV station in the US that runs only audio programming on one of their TV channels.
KAET Phoenix runs classical music from KBAQ/89.5 on Channel 8.5, and has since at least 2009.
So what? This is often done with Public Radio/TV groups. WVIZ already broadcasts HD alternatives The Ohio Channel, The Create Channel and The Kids Channel. Pretty smart, actually to put their two FMs in the lineup. Some higher end TVs have a great sound system built in.
I've typed up a polite and well written letter, and that didn't work. However, I've found out that sometimes leaving a "Facebook style" message that sounds mean and unprofessional with no backing evidence tends to get better results. Example: "Why are you broadcasting a 35.5? Please get rid of it!"
I have left them unrelated messages in the past on a one time basis, and even those got ignored. About 3 years ago, I actually got through to someone, who got me to the engineer, and he was able to address some of my concerns. Sadly, I tried directly emailing that engineer about channel 35.5 with the email address that I had, but it bounced back, so I take it that he's no longer with the station.
I can tell you that WOIO/WUAB, WOCV-CD, and WBNX (before the Nexstar buyout) were always good at addressing my questions and concerns. WJW is another station who flat out refuses to read or take my comments into consideration, and I'm trying to address issues with them (and WBNX) as well.
The problem is that this doesn't always work as intended. I have a Sanyo TV, and deleting said channel only hides it from the list. If I punch in 35.5 on my remote, the TV will still take me to that blank channel regardless, because it doesn't totally ignore it, and since it was the last one that was programed in, it no longer takes me to WOCV-CD's 35.5.
What happens quite often with that set, is that for no particular reason, it will add the RF channels of an already programmed channel. Example, I may get all of WVIZ's channels duplicated as channel 35.3, 35.4, 35.5, etc. Again, deleting these channels will no longer direct me to the proper WOCV-CD subs upon manual key entry, and a full re-scan is needed to clear them out. Besides, I, or other viewers, shouldn't have to be hiding invalid channels that shouldn't be transmitted in the first place. If my Sanyo TV showed me the actual RF channel being scanned in during a scan, I would yank the cable out when it comes to RF 35 to avoid having WVIZ get programmed in, then problem solved, minus the legit WVIZ subchannels.
WVIZ 25.6 perhaps? Or bump WKSU to .6 and WCLV to .7, and then add WCSB to .8? I would assume that they would keep the audio only channels grouped together for convenience. If they do add it to WVIZ, perhaps they will find the problem as to why they are broadcasting 35.5.
VintageMac
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WVIZ has been doing that for some time. Do you even have OTA???
VintageMac
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It's a heavy does for sure.
Aside from CSCN on 25.9, didn't they start simulcasting the radio stations on .7 & .8 after ideastream took over WKSU, and moved the classical music from 104.9 to 90.3? I believe it was to address coverage concerns. WCSB would make sense as well, seeing that it mostly covers Cuyahoga County.
WKSU and WCLV are simulcast on the WVIZ multiplex; the former is to address reception issues for WKSU on the eastern side of Cleveland, particularly in Euclid, where reception is weakest. The latter IIRC is an artifact from when WCLV was on 104.9 Lorain.
That being said, there is zero reason to simulcast WCSB over WVIZ. The vast majority of JazzNEO's listeners do so on the app or online, a handful over HD.
VintageMac
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Coverage as well as expanding their Ideastream brand. People listen in various ways and it's just another one. Satellite services like DirecTV have audio only channels for music and have done so for a long time, around 30 years so it's not a new concept.
VintageMac
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Coverage as well as expanding their Ideastream brand. People listen in various ways and it's just another one. Satellite services like DirecTV have audio only channels for music and have done so for a long time, around 30 years so it's not a new concept.
I don’t live in Cleveland
VintageMac
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That's OK. Things are different here. Take the Cleveland Browns for example!
I don't think anybody wants them. 😁
VintageMac
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But we need a new stadium so somebody want them apparently.
So that justifies treating the ones that paid their own way like crap? Or ANY of the students involved with the station? If any of the students [read alumni] receive a letter from them requesting donations, etc. I'd send it back looking like the shredded lettuce on a Taco Bell Chugalunga or whatever they call their latest creation.