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WCTZ proposing change of COL
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Boo hoo for Fairfield County. The trend of suburban radio stations blowing off their city of license for the bigger piece of the pie is nothing new. That's what it's like for every suburban county. Even some non-suburban counties. Newark is NJ's largest city and bigger than most radio markets. But do you think Z-100 or La Kalle or Channel 13 pay attention to it?
luperm said:It looks like the request was granted. Now we'll see what they are going to do with their tx location...
It won't be decided until the end of February at the earliest. From the Daily Digest:
FM TABLE OF ALLOTMENTS, PORT CHESTER, NY & STAMFORD, CT. Proposed Amendment of FM Table of Allotments for the listed communities. (Dkt No. 06-193 , RM-11345). Action by: Assistant Chief, Audio Division, Media Bureau. Comments Due: 02/12/2007. Reply Comments Due: 02/27/2007. Adopted: 12/20/2006 by NPRM. (DA No. 06-2566). MB DA-06-2566A1.doc DA-06-2566A1.pdf DA-06-2566A1.txt
(The files are hyperlinks. You can read here: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2566A1.pdf)
Since, from what I read on the "other" board, it is entirely possible for 96.7 to move their transmitter to within 15km. of WBLS, as long as they can put in 70 dBu into Port Jervis, NY...does any engineering type know if the North Shore Towers on the Queens/Nassau border is a viable location? WLIR and now WZAA broadcast from those towers, which are actually on the Queens side of the border.
My mistake...got the ports mixed up! That said, there's no way you can really find anything that would give equivalent coverage to ESB in the NYC metro area, that is also 15 km. away from the ESB, except maybe perhaps some high location in Westchester county, perhaps where WHUD or WSPK broadcast from, but that's a bit far out from the city.
Are the North Shore Towers 15 km. away from the ESB? 92.7 has been broadcasting from there for at least two decades and the reach of their signal isn't too shabby.
Are the North Shore Towers 15 km. away from the ESB? 92.7 has been broadcasting from there for at least two decades and the reach of their signal isn't too shabby.
You'll never get anything close to an ESB signal from WCTZ...WCTZ is a Class A station, while most of the ESB signals are much stronger Class B stations. Even if you got more height, WCTZ would have to power down to compensate.
The WBLS thing has something to do with being 10.8 MHz apart from WCTZ...an engineering person could elaborate on that.
The WBLS thing has something to do with being 10.8 MHz apart from WCTZ...an engineering person could elaborate on that.
luperm said:You'll never get anything close to an ESB signal from WCTZ...WCTZ is a Class A station, while most of the ESB signals are much stronger Class B stations. Even if you got more height, WCTZ would have to power down to compensate.
Oops. You're right. For some reason I thought it was a class B. My bad.
The WBLS thing has something to do with being 10.8 MHz apart from WCTZ...an engineering person could elaborate on that.
It has to do with the way an FM station is decoded. The actual signal (88.1-107.9 MHz) is shifted to a specific frequency and then it's that resulting signal that is actually decoded. The intermediate frequency (IF) is usually between 10.6 and 10.8MHz. This causes some weird problems if there's another signal right nearby that's the same space away in the spectrum as what you're listening to as the IF is. It doesn't usually cause a problem because stations in the same area are usually every 4th channel (.8MHz) so you get spacings that are 10.4 then 11.2MHz away from either other.
Knowing the area, a couple of interesting spots would be...the new Trump building or Ritz Carlton tower in White Plains...the WFAS tower in Greenburgh...the county's tower at the Westchester Medical Center (WXPK is on there)...North Shore Towers on the Queens/Nassau line could work (the signal path is mostly over water)...the new apartment building in downtown New Rochelle would also seem like an interesting option.
The WHUD or WSPK site would likely be too close to Port Jervis (and too far from Port Chester), and also would not help with their desire to move closer to NYC. I don't think you'd get a strong enough signal in Port Chester from Armstrong Tower either.
The WHUD or WSPK site would likely be too close to Port Jervis (and too far from Port Chester), and also would not help with their desire to move closer to NYC. I don't think you'd get a strong enough signal in Port Chester from Armstrong Tower either.
where do the fcc coridinates take the allocation of WCTZ? isn't the allocated corridinates on their website next to or at white plains Airport (westchester ny greenwich ct border?) which is about 10 miles to the north...
luperm said:Knowing the area, a couple of interesting spots would be...the new Trump building or Ritz Carlton tower in White Plains...the WFAS tower in Greenburgh...the county's tower at the Westchester Medical Center (WXPK is on there)...North Shore Towers on the Queens/Nassau line could work (the signal path is mostly over water)...the new apartment building in downtown New Rochelle would also seem like an interesting option.
The WHUD or WSPK site would likely be too close to Port Jervis (and too far from Port Chester), and also would not help with their desire to move closer to NYC. I don't think you'd get a strong enough signal in Port Chester from Armstrong Tower either.
luperm said:There is nothing on a physical move yet. Just a COL change right now. Once that's granted, they can file for the tx location change, if that's what they're up to (and there's no reason to believe otherwise at this time).
As I understand it, the rules right now say that you have to file the COL change and the xmitter site change separately, but the streamlining rules that will come into effect in January mean you can do both at the same time.
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