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WDAS AM Playing Soul Today

Sounds a bit like 98.1 a few years ago. Real heavy on motown. Wish they played more stacks, atlantic records and Philly groups from Gamble Huff stuff. But lets give them some time. They should improve.

Also, who are the new owners? They mention on legal ID. Too bad they don't voice track Butter.
 
athegymtday said:
For legal ID they say someting that sounds like "An I Heart Station" ?

"An IHeartRadio" station. CC does that with all their stations that stream online. Lots of corporate synergy with their IHR streaming app. They promote it heavily.
 
They may be using the cleanest version of the songs they can obtain.
 
The Youngest Oldie said:
The audio stream sounds great. The music is really good thus far. I cannot receive WDAS here in Trenton, NJ...any suggestions on how to pull it in somehow?

Fugeddaboudit. Nulled in Trenton's direction to protect the 1480 in NYC.
 
John Holcomb II said:
Sounds great but question.Why do they use mono versions of some songs instead of Stereo versions ?

Could be a few reasons...

1. There may not be a stereo version available. Granted, there could be 'fake stereo' (duophonic) versions, but they really aren't that good (listen to the early Beatles American output on Capitol for further proof). Newer remastered versions may have favored the mono versions rather than the stereo ones.

2. Songs from the mid-60s and earlier likely sound better in their mono versions.

3. It's an AM station anyways, and the mono versions were mixed for optimal sound on AM signals. Berry Gordy especially designed the early Motown hits to really pop on cheap AM radios. And if this is the reason, I give credit to Clear Channel for realizing this. Most programmers are to lazy to take this into account.
 
Rick B. said:
The Youngest Oldie said:
The audio stream sounds great. The music is really good thus far. I cannot receive WDAS here in Trenton, NJ...any suggestions on how to pull it in somehow?

Fugeddaboudit. Nulled in Trenton's direction to protect the 1480 in NYC.
Don't forget, you also have WBCB at 1490 out of Levittown which I'm sure causes some issues, too.
 
If WDAS has a superior sound quality on-air, I strongly urge the powers-that-be there to promote it to the hilt. A slogan could include something like "AM never sounded so good", "Soul never sounded as good (as it does here and now)", "High Fidelity Soul" or something similar.

I've been listening online for awhile tonight and have heard some songs I haven't before. These include the Stylistics songs: "It's Too Late", "Hurry Up This Way Again" and "Children of the Night".
 
At least once an hour they are playing an R&B classic that probably would not have heard on standard Top 40 radio. So we are hearing hits that R&B fans would have heard in the hey day of stations like WDAS and WHAT. So not only are we getting the soul hits that were cross-overs, but the true "classic hits."

With the familiar artists, we are getting songs beyond the 3 or 4 that would be heard on WOGL, thank God.
 
jhguthlac said:
At least once an hour they are playing an R&B classic that probably would not have heard on standard Top 40 radio. So we are hearing hits that R&B fans would have heard in the hey day of stations like WDAS and WHAT. So not only are we getting the soul hits that were cross-overs, but the true "classic hits."

With the familiar artists, we are getting songs beyond the 3 or 4 that would be heard on WOGL, thank God.
It goes to show that if you're operating an AM music station in today's day and age, you'd better damned well innovate! Frankly, I feel that on a station like WDAS-AM, 1,500 titles should be the bare minimum with no less than 3,000 being ideal! Enhancing the sound quality was also a good move!
 
IMHO, if I was doing the music for WDAS, I would play the HIT 45 version of most of the records...because that is what was played in the heyday of Soul Music. Most people bought the 45...which (in Motown's case) were mixed FOR AM radio and the 2 1/2 inch speakers on transistor radios and for one CAR radio speaker.

It's legendary that the producers would mix the song ON speakers that were the size of a MONO car speaker (until perhaps the early '70s.) So frankly, I'd play the MONO version which were mixed that way for more PUNCH. And ain't that what it's all about? Punch! They should JUMP out of the radio. Ok...then the argument occurs that most people who listen on their computer speakers with decent fidelity would miss out on the stereo. Well, up until about 1969-70 most singles were mixed down to mono from 3 or 4 tracks to get the optimum PUNCH that was desired. Ask any recording engineer from that time period. When that drum hits on "Nowhere To Run" you KNEW it was Motown. You KNEW it was gonna hit you in the gut even on small speakers. Purists would LOVE to hear the singles. Only the stereo snobs who wouldn't know mono if it hit them in the face would mind.

Ok...Devil's Advocate time. "But wait," you say... Most people now only KNOW of the STEREO version of Gladys Knight & The Pips version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine." That may be true, but the single is actually a whole different mix...and a different TAKE on the vocal and instrumental from what I recall. I have a Motown Gladys anthology with that MONO mix. It sounds so much BETTER than the stereo and is a bit LONGER too! So...then who is LISTENING to WDAS-AM and who do they wish to attract? Not you. Nope. It's a 59 year old who still knows AM exists. They will NOT attract a 20-something **(unless they reallllly love music of your older uncle's or father's life.**) Nope...it ain't about most of the posters here. It's about the guy in North Philly who hasn't heard HIS or HER music on the radio in a LONG time. I think this station should focus on classic soul and some earlier R & B sounds and some of the best '70s records...and once or twice an hour, play a STONE-COLD R & B obscurity or a record that USED to be played on WDAS or WCAM or WIBBAGE or WFIL. Why NOT play "Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache," by The Bandwagon (which isn't obscure to people FROM Philly) or a big hit that virtually nobody plays anymore like "Groovy Situation" by Gene Chandler. Again, that one isn't obscure to a "national" audience if you're striving for internet listenership. There is a possible market for WDAS AM in ENGLAND of all places where "Northern Soul" has been the rage for quite some time. The most HIP people in the UK love this stuff. It's Beach Music times 10. The more obscure the better. I know I'm gonna take some heat from some of my pals in the biz who say, "Just play the hits." Well...of course; but you CAN play "Mind, Body & Soul" by Flaming Ember on a SOUL station, even though the group was WHITE! They had Holland/Dozier/Holland producing and writing as IF they were Levi Stubbs and the Funk Brothers were performing. I'm telling you, there is a market for this...but realistically on AM radio (if that's the immediate goal) I'd be playing for people who love soul music no matter what color or sign you are...and play some DEPTH...'cause DEPTH makes you stand out from the ordinary "Good Times and Great Oldies" crappola. You MUST play "MY GIRL" and "LOVE TRAIN," but geez...play me "Shake A Tail Feather" by James & Bobby Purify once for every 3 times you play "I'm Your Puppet." 'Nuff said. Discuss. BE BIG!
 
bigjay said:
There is a possible market for WDAS AM in ENGLAND of all places where "Northern Soul" has been the rage for quite some time. The most HIP people in the UK love this stuff. It's Beach Music times 10. The more obscure the better.
Y'know, I just came up with what may or may not be a whacked idea: why not feature for one or two hours on either Saturday or Sunday a program featuring more obscure soul/R&B sounds? One of those genres could include Carolina Beach music but "Northern Soul" could also be. For a "Northern Soul" feature, why not host scooter shows with a live remote broadcast? Also, the station might want to host concerts, dances and maybe even antique car shows!
 
Great ideas but CC wouldn't spend the money even on a legendary station. Some really good posts here,
I still say get Butterball to do some of the voice tracking like back in the day. "Fast butter in the city to wide to get around to big to get over". And who could forget "Is it getting next to you mama, well then get next to me and let it be good to ya". I can still here the sound of motown's originals singing Baby I'm for real playing. "They call me wax paper because I can wrap around anything, call me renolds wrap cause my wrap is strong, call me candy wrap cause my wrap is so sweet, girl, I don't mean to be bold but you must be told your gonna get so much from the butterball touch".

Thats what made WDAS the music and the jocks!
 
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