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ThatVoice
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Doesn't KIRO deserve some credit for sending two reporters to cover the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans? Sounds big. KOMO has a reporter there too.
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dialtwisty
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KIRO and Katrina
>>> Doesn't KIRO deserve some credit for sending two reporters
to cover the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans?...
Yeah, now they'll have to cut back on those three-martini lunches...
>>> Doesn't KIRO deserve some credit for sending two reporters
to cover the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans?...
Yeah, now they'll have to cut back on those three-martini lunches...
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dialtwisty
Guest
Too Many Reporters?
>>> Do they get in the way of the rescuers?...
The real question you may be asking youselves is:
Why doesn't the media (esp radio) give coverage to the WIDER devastation of Katrina?
For one thing, they have the same problem in Mississippi that the rescuers have -
- a lack of access for their reporters...
By narrowing the scope of the disaster recovery facing the states and federal emergency responders, it makes it easier to blame them for a poor response, when in fact the turnaround time for assistance on Katrina has historically been one of the best for hurricane disasters.
>>> Do they get in the way of the rescuers?...
The real question you may be asking youselves is:
Why doesn't the media (esp radio) give coverage to the WIDER devastation of Katrina?
For one thing, they have the same problem in Mississippi that the rescuers have -
- a lack of access for their reporters...
By narrowing the scope of the disaster recovery facing the states and federal emergency responders, it makes it easier to blame them for a poor response, when in fact the turnaround time for assistance on Katrina has historically been one of the best for hurricane disasters.
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OttoM
Guest
> Doesn't KIRO deserve some credit for sending two reporters
> to cover the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans?
Not If you consider they're also helping Entercom's New Orleans stations stay on the air as well.
Nice try, though. Thanks for playing.
> to cover the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans?
Not If you consider they're also helping Entercom's New Orleans stations stay on the air as well.
Nice try, though. Thanks for playing.
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AQH
Guest
Re: How much is too much?
For many reasons, ranging from simple freedom of speech and the president's several photo-ops, the press there is essential. In short, yes, they are focusing mostly on New Orleans because of the size of the city and the water damage, whereas the other area affected simply have dry piles of debris.
Regarding New Orleans, if you pay closer attention to the footage, several reporters are tagging along with military and/or relief convoys, as they are unable to get around to the heart-wrenching parts of the story, like the family being rescued from the water or rooftop. Not to mention it's flat dangerous out there, with everything from oil to human waste to rapidly decomposing bodies floating in the water.
The point of that last paragraph is how I think that the number of press down there is maybe just a little lower due to the health concerns and lack of shelter down there. I don't think every single convoy has someone from the media tagging along, but I'm sure there are plenty out there. The timing of the deployment of relief may have been horrible, but I'm pretty sure when they have a reporter tagging along, they are not in the way of operations.
Finally, remember that most (but not all) of the aerial shots are being provided by a pool cameraman (a cruel irony in wording). It's restricted airspace over New Orleans (because of all the military and relief efforts).
> Does there come a point that too many reporters are not only
> overkill, but they get in the way of the rescuers? Just
> wondering? Your thoughts, please.
For many reasons, ranging from simple freedom of speech and the president's several photo-ops, the press there is essential. In short, yes, they are focusing mostly on New Orleans because of the size of the city and the water damage, whereas the other area affected simply have dry piles of debris.
Regarding New Orleans, if you pay closer attention to the footage, several reporters are tagging along with military and/or relief convoys, as they are unable to get around to the heart-wrenching parts of the story, like the family being rescued from the water or rooftop. Not to mention it's flat dangerous out there, with everything from oil to human waste to rapidly decomposing bodies floating in the water.
The point of that last paragraph is how I think that the number of press down there is maybe just a little lower due to the health concerns and lack of shelter down there. I don't think every single convoy has someone from the media tagging along, but I'm sure there are plenty out there. The timing of the deployment of relief may have been horrible, but I'm pretty sure when they have a reporter tagging along, they are not in the way of operations.
Finally, remember that most (but not all) of the aerial shots are being provided by a pool cameraman (a cruel irony in wording). It's restricted airspace over New Orleans (because of all the military and relief efforts).
> Does there come a point that too many reporters are not only
> overkill, but they get in the way of the rescuers? Just
> wondering? Your thoughts, please.
From the rantings of SOME, it makes it hard to understand
I've been hearing non stop, how this is all about "If they were white, the relief would have gone faster" and most of the media are centralized in New Orleans.
Since the white folks along the Gulf Coast in Pasquagula and Gulf Port lost more than everything (Nothing but flat from the Gulf in about a quarter mile)...THEY aren't getting aid any faster than the rest but to hear what the CNN's are portraying, it's only black folk not getting the help fast enough.
**Warning Political Comment follows*
Perhaps when this calms down, someone's gonna ask that blorting bloviating Mayor of New Orleans why he didn't follow the C.E.R.T. Agreement he signed on to along with the governor.
While they're pointing their fingers at Washington DC, they seem to be forgetting that THEY were the ones responsible for FIRST RESPONSE and were required to have a plan in place to deal with disasters such as this BEFORE HAND. When they were being practically begged to evacuate their Cities (Along with a declration of Federal Disaster Area 48 hours before the storm hit), instead of either asking for help from the feds, or mobilizing the LA Guard.
They moved all the school busses and City busses to the center of town where they'd be up to the rooftops in water instead of using them to get those people OUT.
More bothersome is the fact that the levee failures occurred in places where they'd already BEEN upgraded to the newest standards...Solid Steel Core, surrounded by a foot of concrete...but....no one bothered to look UNDERNEATH to see what kind of foundation they were being mounted in....they failed because the ground eroded out from underneath them.
I've been hearing non stop, how this is all about "If they were white, the relief would have gone faster" and most of the media are centralized in New Orleans.
Since the white folks along the Gulf Coast in Pasquagula and Gulf Port lost more than everything (Nothing but flat from the Gulf in about a quarter mile)...THEY aren't getting aid any faster than the rest but to hear what the CNN's are portraying, it's only black folk not getting the help fast enough.
**Warning Political Comment follows*
Perhaps when this calms down, someone's gonna ask that blorting bloviating Mayor of New Orleans why he didn't follow the C.E.R.T. Agreement he signed on to along with the governor.
While they're pointing their fingers at Washington DC, they seem to be forgetting that THEY were the ones responsible for FIRST RESPONSE and were required to have a plan in place to deal with disasters such as this BEFORE HAND. When they were being practically begged to evacuate their Cities (Along with a declration of Federal Disaster Area 48 hours before the storm hit), instead of either asking for help from the feds, or mobilizing the LA Guard.
They moved all the school busses and City busses to the center of town where they'd be up to the rooftops in water instead of using them to get those people OUT.
More bothersome is the fact that the levee failures occurred in places where they'd already BEEN upgraded to the newest standards...Solid Steel Core, surrounded by a foot of concrete...but....no one bothered to look UNDERNEATH to see what kind of foundation they were being mounted in....they failed because the ground eroded out from underneath them.
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hangbush
Guest
Re: How much is too much?
> Does there come a point that too many reporters are not only
> overkill, but they get in the way of the rescuers? Just
> wondering? Your thoughts, please.
>
Don't you remember, the president told us it was impossible for rescuers to get in there. That means the only people there were media, so they must only have gotten in their own way.
> Does there come a point that too many reporters are not only
> overkill, but they get in the way of the rescuers? Just
> wondering? Your thoughts, please.
>
Don't you remember, the president told us it was impossible for rescuers to get in there. That means the only people there were media, so they must only have gotten in their own way.
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hangbush
Guest
Re: Too Many Reporters?
> By narrowing the scope of the disaster recovery facing the
> states and federal emergency responders, it makes it easier
> to blame them for a poor response, when in fact the
> turnaround time for assistance on Katrina has historically
> been one of the best for hurricane disasters.
>
ack, gasp.
Excuuuuuse Me? In the good old days, when a hurricane threatened to make landfall, the emergency teams were put on standby near the area that was expecting problems. Not only did that not happen this time, but the feds waited for three full days before they did anything. This isn't merely a disgrace, it's criminal malfeasance.
With the exception of the Coast Guard, who didn't wait for the turf battles to be decided. They got in there and started rescuing people.
We can expect the same fine help here when we have the next big earthquake. I don't want to hear about what a great job was done. 10,000 people died. A lot of them died waiting for drinkable water, which the human body can only do without for 3 days. And no, despite all the water around them, that sewage and saltwater cocktail wasn't drinkable.
Just because big business media did yet another crappy job of reporting a hideous disaster doesn't make BS into truth. Sure, they gave us lots of gut wrenching of destruction photos, but not much tough questioning of the idiots in charge.
Questions that the our KIRO reporters and the media in general should have asked are: Mr. President, why did you stay on vacation for two days after this human tragedy when your leadership could have saved many lives? Were you finishing up the last pages of "The Pet Goat?"
Ms. Rice, as the nation's Security Director, did you really need to go see Spamalot and buy shoes in New York for a couple of days before finally going to help with the recovery days after you knew of the catastrophe?
Mr. Brown, as the person in charge of FEMA, the primary federal agency responsible for disaster relief, do you think it was appropriate that after you found out about the extent the the devestation, that you chose to wait five more hours before asking for volunteers to get down to New Orleans and help out?
On the flip side, WWL Radio in New Orleans has been doing a fantastic job of covering their city. I only hope that KIRO and/or KOMO are up to the same kind of job when our turn comes. Judging from almost total lack of aid coming from the feds in the critical First 72 Hours after an emergency, we'd better have some damned fine local coordination going on through our media or a lot of people here will die needlessly too.
> By narrowing the scope of the disaster recovery facing the
> states and federal emergency responders, it makes it easier
> to blame them for a poor response, when in fact the
> turnaround time for assistance on Katrina has historically
> been one of the best for hurricane disasters.
>
ack, gasp.
Excuuuuuse Me? In the good old days, when a hurricane threatened to make landfall, the emergency teams were put on standby near the area that was expecting problems. Not only did that not happen this time, but the feds waited for three full days before they did anything. This isn't merely a disgrace, it's criminal malfeasance.
With the exception of the Coast Guard, who didn't wait for the turf battles to be decided. They got in there and started rescuing people.
We can expect the same fine help here when we have the next big earthquake. I don't want to hear about what a great job was done. 10,000 people died. A lot of them died waiting for drinkable water, which the human body can only do without for 3 days. And no, despite all the water around them, that sewage and saltwater cocktail wasn't drinkable.
Just because big business media did yet another crappy job of reporting a hideous disaster doesn't make BS into truth. Sure, they gave us lots of gut wrenching of destruction photos, but not much tough questioning of the idiots in charge.
Questions that the our KIRO reporters and the media in general should have asked are: Mr. President, why did you stay on vacation for two days after this human tragedy when your leadership could have saved many lives? Were you finishing up the last pages of "The Pet Goat?"
Ms. Rice, as the nation's Security Director, did you really need to go see Spamalot and buy shoes in New York for a couple of days before finally going to help with the recovery days after you knew of the catastrophe?
Mr. Brown, as the person in charge of FEMA, the primary federal agency responsible for disaster relief, do you think it was appropriate that after you found out about the extent the the devestation, that you chose to wait five more hours before asking for volunteers to get down to New Orleans and help out?
On the flip side, WWL Radio in New Orleans has been doing a fantastic job of covering their city. I only hope that KIRO and/or KOMO are up to the same kind of job when our turn comes. Judging from almost total lack of aid coming from the feds in the critical First 72 Hours after an emergency, we'd better have some damned fine local coordination going on through our media or a lot of people here will die needlessly too.
Re: Too Many Reporters?
AMEN.
AMEN.
Re: Too Many Reporters?
Gee hangbush, we can tell by your handle your a left winger. In case you haven't figured this out this board is a Seattle Radio board. I don't give a crap about your political views. Once in a while in your postings you may interject a station's call letter to justify your post as a radio post but your just posting politics and we will never agree. There are millions of boards you can spew on so take it there, not here.<P ID="signature">______________
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Gee hangbush, we can tell by your handle your a left winger. In case you haven't figured this out this board is a Seattle Radio board. I don't give a crap about your political views. Once in a while in your postings you may interject a station's call letter to justify your post as a radio post but your just posting politics and we will never agree. There are millions of boards you can spew on so take it there, not here.<P ID="signature">______________
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