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WECK to be another WHLD?

Steven,

You greatly underestimate the genius of Dick Greene. And his choice of Tom Schuh as PD iillustrates his genius.

Tune in and be amazed.

Kal

P.S. What does the NEW AM 1230 have to do with WHLD? (WHLD could have been a great station but...)
 
Wait and See?

Well, their first move was to hire a program director who actually has some experience programming.

Secondly, they haven't committed to a particular political persuasion.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. WBEN is the big tree, but I detect a lot of punky wood at the core. The news department is thin, the morning show is unintentionally humorous at times, and the Bauerle/Beach combo may not be as invulnerable as either of them would like to think. Rush's star is dimming, and his disdain of McCain could put him on the outs with some of his best sources.

WECK may not aim directly at WBEN, but I'll bet that they'll be a lot better than WHLD or WKBW. Entercom should have put Tom Schuh's programming talents to work while they had him in house. Now, they may have to deal with him nipping at their cash cow's heels.
 
Re: Wait and See?

SirRoxalot said:
Secondly, they haven't committed to a particular political persuasion.


Why do they have to commit to a particular political persuation?

I think stations with political persuations are ultimately painting themselves into a corner. Must talkradio be identified as a political format?
 
You can have the greatest programming genius at the helm, but if there's no money for marketing, you won't be successful. This is a universal truth.
 
Re: Wait and See?

Steven21 said:
SirRoxalot said:
Secondly, they haven't committed to a particular political persuasion.


Why do they have to commit to a particular political persuation?

I think stations with political persuations are ultimately painting themselves into a corner. Must talkradio be identified as a political format?

My point was that they - unlike WHLD - HAVEN'T committed to a particular political persuasion, which gives them a lot more flexibility. WECK - unlike WHLD - may not adopt a political viewpoint.

I'm not sure how you derived the idea that they have to commit to a particular political persuasion from my original comment.
 
Re: Wait and See?

SirRoxalot said:
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. WBEN is the big tree, but I detect a lot of punky wood at the core. The news department is thin, the morning show is unintentionally humorous at times, and the Bauerle/Beach combo may not be as invulnerable as either of them would like to think. Rush's star is dimming, and his disdain of McCain could put him on the outs with some of his best sources.

I was forced to listen to WBEN during last weeks power outage and for a person who doesn't listen to them that often, there are things they do well and a lot of things that are annoying.

I think WECK could set themselves up with a nice little niche at a time when all of the corporate broadcasters are cutting expenses left and right. Sounds like their timing to enter the fray couldn't have been better.
 
WHLD failed because it had management that didn't know how to do radio. The only broadcast professional on staff was Ray Marks. After he left, the station was doomed to failure. I don't expect we'll see that with WECK. Indeed, Dick Greene knows the business. And Tom Schuh has a track record as a quality program director. Yes, I agree with Cowbell that Greene will have to find a way to market the station. But until we learn more about what Green and Schuh are planning, it's hard to speculate on what kind of impact WECK will have on the market leader, WBEN. What I do feel safe in saying is that WECK will NOT be another WHLD.
 
Promises, Promises

One more thing to consider is that there's some talent available with great name recognition. Cuts and/or "retirements" at local stations have left people like Dan Neaverth, Tom Donahue, Harv Moore, Tina Peele, Mike McQueen, CJ Lee, and others either un- or under-employed.

I'm not sure how many of them would be interested in working for table scraps, but maybe one or two of them might be willing to take a shot with the hope that success would bring increasing rewards (haven't we ALL heard THAT one before).
 
What can WECK accomplish by entering the competition with established radio stations offering news and talk programming? I wish him well, but it seems like an impossible task, even with an experienced program director such as Mr. Schuh who has a good track record in Buffalo. WBEN, WNED-AM and WBFO, and even WWKB for that matter appear to provide listeners with the news and talk shows they need. Wouldn't Standards or Oldies be a better option for WECK at this point?
 
and some of you guys would have told Marconi that this radio thing is a stupid idea.............

Yes...Lets bury the new WECK before it hits the air.

Give me a break.
 
AndrewLawson said:
What can WECK accomplish by entering the competition with established radio stations offering news and talk programming?

There's a lot of syndicated programming that isn't aired in Buffalo or anywhere nearby, I'll offer that point of view.

Now, if it were my decision I would opt for some sort of "full service" format with lots of local content. Having said that I'll wait for the new WECK to debut before I start second guessing them. ;)
 
It does cost alot of money to run a radio station, and nothing for the listener to turn on the radio.
Having said that, I do hope there will be a local weekend show.

I believe it should be live on location from some local business in Buffalo.
It should also entertain the listener well and make other businesses in Buffalo want to welcome the station into their business the next week...
 
WECK is off to a good start as Mr. Greene hires a program director with knowledge of the market and a successful Buffalo track record, albeit with Oldies. WECK could be very successful by carving a niche as a locally focused, small town news-talk radio station, as long as it doesn't sound small town and shlocky, even with an expected presence of colon-blow infomercials, tradio and infomercials from attorneys, plastic surgeons, plumbers, painters and dentists hawking their services and offering advice colored by nasal intonations and somniferous deliveries. There's a reason these guys don't do radio as a fulltime gig.

The sixty four thousand dollar questions (a 60+ metaphor if ever there was one): Who's the target listener? And can WECK provide a product that's better than what the listener already gets from WBFO, WBEN, WWKB, WNED-AM or WLVL?

Case in point: WBEN yesterday featured full blown discussion of the Lynn DeJac case. WGR featured discussion of the House hearing of the Roger Clemens-Brian McNamee steroid scandal in major league baseball. (Sidebar: A colassal waste of time and resources given the real problems facing this country.)

Will WECK be able to compete with these stations? Only time and WECK's day to day performance will tell.
 
Adding Color

Element9 said:
WECK could be very successful by carving a niche as a locally focused, small town news-talk radio station, as long as it doesn't sound small town and shlocky, even with an expected presence of... infomercials from painters... hawking their services and offering advice colored by nasal intonations and somniferous deliveries. There's a reason these guys don't do radio as a fulltime gig.

Is Radknowski ponying up for an infomercial slot? Will he be returning to the local airwaves on WECK?

Inquiring minds want to know!
 
Re: Adding Color

SirRoxalot said:
Is Radknowski ponying up for an infomercial slot? Will he be returning to the local airwaves on WECK?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Rox, where is our favorite paint-speckled poster, Radknowsk?  Haven't seen a post in a few days.  Is he vacationing on the Redneck Riviera or does the poor boy have the flu?
 
What's the format really?

Maybe someone has already raised this point and I missed it. Some of you folks know Tom Shuh. I don't and I know that there are some who think if you can program one format, you can program them all. But isn't Mr. Shuh's fine reputation as a Program Director based on the job he did while programming Oldies 104?

And based on the strength of 'BEN as a news/talker, and WECK's past history as a music station, doesn't it really make more sense to surmise that WECK is headed toward a music format (oldies of some fashion) and maybe this syndicated talk idea is really some sort of ruse? Remember, a few posters have suggested that KB's reincarnation would have had a different outcome if Tom had been at the helm? Maybe that gave Dick Greene some ideas.

Other than the local bumper music idea, Tom's been pretty quiet on this board and not really tipping his hand on what his plans for the station are. By the way, when is the kick-off date for the new format? Has anyone heard?
 
Well, I thought Tom's original post was quite clear. Granted, it was made in another thread, not this one. But he did say WECK will have a news/talk format. He's not providing details other than his desire to use local music for station production and bumper music. He also say it will be launched in March.
 
Paint Your Wagon

Call Me Sherlock said:
SirRoxalot said:
Is Radknowski ponying up for an infomercial slot? Will he be returning to the local airwaves on WECK?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Rox, where is our favorite paint-speckled poster, Radknowsk? Haven't seen a post in a few days. Is he vacationing on the Redneck Riviera or does the poor boy have the flu?

Sherlock, I'm guessing that our resident painter must be working on a big job with Uncle Oskie & crew. Since it's winter, he's probably been working indoors with too much paint thinner and too little ventilation.
 
Philip_Airtime said:
Well, I thought Tom's original post was quite clear. Granted, it was made in another thread, not this one. But he did say WECK will have a news/talk format. He's not providing details other than his desire to use local music for station production and bumper music. He also say it will be launched in March.

Thanks, Philip. I guess I did miss it.
 
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