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WECK Wins

For all that WECK has been through and for all the criticism it has received here, it appears that it's quite done nicely in its association with University at Buffalo sports, particularly football.

The UB Bulls are MAC Champions! The games weren't heard on KB, WBEN or WGR, they were heard on WECK.

Congratulations to WECK and its staff and the University at Buffalo, particularly Turner Gill and his outstanding coaching staff. WECK got it right putting this deal together and deserves credit for making the deal. With the Buffalo Bills on the skids and the Sabres struggling, WECK secured a college franchise that's earning rave reviews locally and nationally.

When Ralph Wilson passes, it's quite likely that UB football, being D-1, will be the only local big league team, especially if Gill rebuffs almost certain to come offers to move to an SEC, Big 10 or PAC 10 program.
 
So disappointing are The Bills this year, that part of me thinks "so move to Toronto, it's all about the money anyway." Still, I'd like to see The Bills stay and I don't think it's a given they're relocating. Considering the fan loyalty toward a very uneven, inconsistent franchise over the past 48 years, relocation should not even be considered. But again, it's all about the money - average fans are losers unless they are living in one of those cool growth markets. Still I'm hoping Jim Kelly, Jeremy Jacobs, Tom Golisano or some other rich, powerful local guys can put a group together and keep The Bills in Buffalo -- where they belong -- forever.

If they do relocate, I'll just figure that evil thing known as greed has taken over professional football completely, so there's more dignity in just saying "goodbye, move to Toronto and win your Super Bowl up there." With new ownership and big bucks pouring in that probably will be happening. In this case, UB Football might look like a pretty nice thing for us western new york "loser fans" during the fall months. Columbus, Ohio seems to do nicely without an NFL team.

And with that, I say congrats not only to the UB Football program, but to Dick, Tom and the rest of the gang at WECK for having the foresight to run the games.
 
Well, if the Bills bolt, at least my loyalties will be less divided, especially when they play the Jets :D.

What I remember about the Bills' situation is that a sale was almost inevitable as the Wilson heirs would not be able to pay the estate tax on what has become a franchise valued at something like $900 Million. (That's about $1.05 Billion Canadian...)

The only question would be who to sell to. If it goes to Toronto, it's still somewhat within reach of current Bills fans in the States and closer to most fans in Ontario. (When I was in Parry Sound, which is two hours north of Toronto, I had conversations with people who regularly traveled from there and from Barrie to Buffalo to see games.) Radio coverage probably wouldn't change much.

But meanwhile, though I've never listened to UB coverage on WECK I must agree with the kudos on their coverage of truly local sports.
 
Didja notice that Sky Dome wasn't exactly sold out, nor was it entirely filled with Bills fans? I'd say the fan allegiance was 50-50 at best, with plenty of Dolphins fans making their presence known. Ralph Wilson and the Bills get $78 million over five years from Rogers Communications to play eight games in TO, but it didn't seem Toronto fans were smitten with the Buffalo Bills... and considering the Bills quality of play today and this season, it's no wonder. From what I've heard, seen and read, Toronto football fans actually prefer to see the Bills play at The Ralph in O-P. It's a stadium that's more conducive to gameday meriment (if not complete drunken idiocy) and more zeal than what's been displayed in Toronto. When Wilson passes, his will calls for the team to be sold to the highest bidder. Golisano has made it known that he'd love to own the Bills, but he'd have to sell the Sabres in order to comply with NFL rules. There are people with money in Buffalo who want to keep the team in Western New York, but there seems to be more people with more money who'd love to buy the team and move it to their city: Los Angeles being the most obvious. It rankles the NFL that they have a team in market #52, but don't have a presence in market #2... then again, sports fans in LA have USC (which isn't a bad pro team in its own right), UCLA, the Chargers two hours down the coast, the Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Dodgers and Angels... and uh, oh yeah, the beach.
 
So give LA an expansion team. Keep the Bills in Buffalo. Green Bay's entire population is about the seating size of the Ralph, so Market #52 is not an issue. There seems something terribly immoral regarding a region loyally supporting a team all these years and just losing the team because some rich bastards in some big city like LA can be the highest bidder and steal them away. In that eventuality, time for Chuck Schumer and (possibly) Caroline Kennedy to step in and started talking about revoking the NFL's anti-trust exemption. They fear that like Dracula fears the crucifix.
 
A lot of people forget that the Bills consistently fill a 76,000 seat stadium, with plenty of luxury suites, at ticket prices far from the lowest in the league. If they moved to Toronto, they'd have to figure out a way to get the same or more revenue in US dollars from a fan base who's dollar's now trading at 80 cents to the US buck, and a stadium with fewer luxury boxes, built for baseball, and only a little over 50,000 available seats. Yep, that's 2/3 the seat capacity, 2/3 the number of skyboxes, and a team in a league with no north-of-the-border history and not much of a north-of-the-border fan base (CFL teams outdraw NFL broadcasts in Canadian viewership). And there will NOT be a new larger stadium built for any NFL franchise any time soon...Toronto passed up an almost sure shot at the Olympics in 2008, 2012 or 2016 because it wouldn't commit to a big new stadium project, so why would anyone think the Bills could persuade them to do what the Olympics could not? In addition, Toronto is historically a hockey and baseball town to begin with. Put it all together and Toronto as a new home for the Bills is a loser, not just long term, but probably in the immediate term. The value of the franchise drops by a third the moment they drive up the moving vans...and it throws away a loyal, stable and lucrative fan base in Buffalo and Rochester that made the Bills one of the ten most profitable franchises in the NFL for a VERY uncertain future. No businessman with a sane brain would make that move away from Buffalo to Toronto. Of course, given what we have learned from the Wall Street debacle about what business people will do in search of a short term score, sanity can't be presumed...

But if not Toronto, where else could the Bills go?

LA is years away from having a stadium remotely suitable for an NFL franchise, and even less likely to build one now since public money will be needed and the state is broke with LA county not far from it. Mexico City? Per capita income isn't sufficient to pay Every other major city in the US that could support an NFL franchise either already has one, has no stadium big enough to hold one and none on the drawing board, or is too much of a hotbed of college sports to give the NFL priority. In the case of San Antonio, its biggest stadium has half the seating capacity of the Ralph. Columbus, Ohio and Austin, Texas are so exclusively tuned to college football in the autumn that no major league sport, except the NHL in Columbus, even has a toehold. The one market that could support another team and actually has a stadium in place right now is New York City. The Giants and Jets will never let a third team into the market. Plus, both Shea Stadium and the old Meadowlands stadium are about to go under the wrecking ball to be replaced by a baseball-only park in Queens and a new Giants/Jets stadium in north Jersey.

Maybe the Bills are a team that wants to move either before or after Ralph Wilson passes on. But they are, in economic terms, all dressed up with no financially viable place to go other than the place where they already are. It'll be interesting to see if they figure that out, or learn it the hard way through a move that fails.

Meanwhile, if I were the owners of WGR I'd start making my plans for a football-free future. Can a sports station survive when only the NHL is left in town? If so, what do you emphasize, what's your ongoing story during the times when hockey's not being played between May and October? Can a sports radio station survive when there isn't activity on the major league level for months at a time? That's something stations like WFAN in NYC, WSCR in Chicago and Fan590 in Toronto never have to cope with. If UB continues its rise and becomes a consistent bowl contender and even a BCS bowl participant on a consistent basis that'll solve the problem. But that's years away from becoming a constant part of the western NY sports fan's consciousness even if it is beginning to happen.
 
A couple of notes ...

First, Tom Golisano would not be required to sell the Sabres to buy the Bills. That rule only applies to potential owners who own professional sports franchises in other cities. Thus, although Jeremy Jacobs would have to dump the Bruins to purchase the Sabres, Wayne Huizenga was able to own the Dolphins at the same time as the Panthers and Marlins.

Toronto is a prime market for an NFL team; indeed, Ontario is the only Canadian province where the NFL and CFL polled equal numbers in Canadian sociologist Reginald Bibby's most recent popularity survey. However, judging from the natives I discussed the matter with that weekend, they want a team of their own, not the Bills. (Based on the team's recent performance, I can't say I blame them.) The scene inside the Rogers Centre that afternoon was surreal; one beat writer I talked to afterward used the word "sterile." Another one said he expected a flop, but not the near-silence we observed when the Bills ran out onto the field. From my seat in the 200s, I can honestly say the lifeless atmosphere was unlike any other NFL game I've ever attended. But if the Centre of the Universe ever does get their own team, folks wouldn't bat an eyelash at paying twice the price of tickets at the Ralph, which would help compensate for the reduced seating. (Remember, the sideline seats they had problems selling were more like FIVE OR SIX times what we pay here.)

However, none of that might matter any longer. Despite Phil Lind's recent remain-calm-all-is-well pronouncements, I'll be interested to see what effect Ted Rogers' death has on the "Bills in Toronto" group.

That said, they're still a better bet than any American cities. San Antonio? The Alamodome (65,000) is substantially more than half of RWS' current capacity (73,967). But, having been there for the post-Katrina game against the Saints, I was unimpressed by its utilitarian construction. They wouldn't necessarily need a bigger building, but they would need a better one. LA? Their incompetent ownership bid is the reason Houston now has the Texans. As Bob says, a new stadium is far in the distance, and neither the Rose Bowl or the Coliseum has anywhere near the premium seating required by an NFL franchise. (With the Mausoleum, there's also the minor detail of the exclusive 25-year lease they just signed with USC.)

Sure would be nice if the Bills got around to starting negotiations on a new lease sometime soon, though. The clock is ticking ...

Back on topic, the team of Paul Peck and Steve Christie has done an admirable job of calling the Bulls' championship run, and I'm glad I could follow it on WECK's webcast.
 
Radknowski said:
Didja notice that Sky Dome wasn't exactly sold out?

How much does it cost to see the game in Buffalo?

Sure, at the Rogers centre, there's an amazing all you can eat buffet in the 200's section for your $350 (cdn) seat (Crab cakes and all!) but still...

Miami fans packed the (buffet section of the) place. One fan joked with me "In this weather, this time of year, Bills fans are probably all in Miami waiting to see the game there!"

BTW, Rogers centre is the correct name, not skydome. Skydome was going bankrupt, and it was the late great Ted Rogers that saved it from going under, Toronto Jays and all!

(he also added his own Rogers video/wireless/etc store to the inside of the building.)

Funny how Sears bought the Eaton company, but didn't change Toronto's Eaton (shopping) centre to the Sears centre. :D
 
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