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These stations are successful as is...
The ratings demonstrate the cost reductions have no impact

Please look at the ratings for WBZ and WRKO again. WBZ is the most listened to radio station in Boston, ages 6 and up. WRKO is number 8.

Keep in mind these are not normal times with a pandemic and coming off a contested election.

Both have served WRKO and WBZ well.

These might not be "normal ratings" either.
 
Thanks. It was worth repeating that there is no financial reason to make any changes as the ratings demonstrate that listeners are embracing the quality of the current presentation
 
Thanks. It was worth repeating that there is no financial reason to make any changes as the ratings demonstrate that listeners are embracing the quality of the current presentation

Let's see if that is the case when the pandemic anxiety is over and politics gets put on the back burner.

Then we'll see and be able to make a judgement if the stations are "sucessful as is" without a contested election and a pandemic.
 
How is that different from the situation before? We had someone saying he heard the same double audio for weeks.

There is a RadioWorld article that counts the total number of engineers eliminated company wide at 39 for over 800 stations. That's a pretty small number in a company this size.
Ah, right, now even more iHeart stations can air "the same double audio for weeks".

Does the RadioWorld article report how many engineers/technicians remain in iHeart's employ at these 800+ stations?
 
Where did you see that "technicians" were eliminated? That's a different pay scale.
In a union shop, maybe. But in commercial stations there is a wide range of what "engineer" or "technician" may mean.

At one station I was with, there was a Chief Engineer, and a studio technician and a transmitter technician. Both the techs were engineers in the sense that they had (or would have had if required) the equivalent of a First Ticket.

In recent years, I have not seen the term "technician" used much in radio. Obviously, in some places the hierarchy is different but I would not read too much into titles, particularly when looking at different broadcasting companies.
 
In a union shop, maybe. But in commercial stations there is a wide range of what "engineer" or "technician" may mean.

If you want to take that approach, in a non-union shop, there are no requirements for engineers or technicians in normal daily operations. Thus studio operations don't actually require engineers or technicians. They can employ board ops. Those are under the domain of the programming department, not the engineering department. They don't even have to be full time. At one place I'm familiar with, they were often temporary staffers.

But that's not what we're talking about. Here's a link to the aforementioned RadioWorld article. It's pretty clear what they're talking about in the article.

 
But that's not what we're talking about. Here's a link to the aforementioned RadioWorld article. It's pretty clear what they're talking about in the article.
From actual engineers who have been laid off, we have anything from group chief engineers to studio and computer maintenance folks. All are part of the "engineering" department.
 
If you want to take that approach, in a non-union shop, there are no requirements for engineers or technicians in normal daily operations. Thus studio operations don't actually require engineers or technicians. They can employ board ops. Those are under the domain of the programming department, not the engineering department. They don't even have to be full time. At one place I'm familiar with, they were often temporary staffers.
But there is a necessity for "engineers" however they are called to maintain the hardware, the transmitter sites, the computers and, today, the in-home studio setups for staff working remotely. Whatever their title, they have to have specialized computer and broadcast engineering knowledge.

Whether on staff or on contract or on call, they are still engineers in the radio vernacular.
 
But there is a necessity for "engineers" however they are called to maintain the hardware, the transmitter sites, the computers and, today, the in-home studio setups for staff working remotely. Whatever their title, they have to have specialized computer and broadcast engineering knowledge.

Whether on staff or on contract or on call, they are still engineers in the radio vernacular.
David, thanks for making this point. Back in the early 60s when I first got to visit radio stations, the people who ran the audio consoles at a union operation or who kept watch at the site of a directional AM were all referred to as engineers, even though only a very small minority had degrees in engineering per se. Properly speaking, non-degreed technical staff would more likely be classified as technicians in other industries, but broadcasting didn't make that distinction.
 
Properly speaking, non-degreed technical staff would more likely be classified as technicians in other industries, but broadcasting didn't make that distinction.

Not sure you can make that generalization. When I was in NABET (The National Association of Broadcast Employees and Technicians), we were very specific about who was called an engineer and who was called a technician. The roles were different, as was the pay. They were not interchangeable, under penalty of grievance.
 
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