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Weekly Planet: Air America Negotiating with Tampa Station

  • Thread starter FloridaBear1776
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> Which one?
>
> My bet's on 1010....
>
> Or, long shot, maybe one of the Spanish-language stations
> under assault
> by 92.5 (Mega 820???).
>
http://clnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCac> he=1&Dato=20051130&Kategori=TPACOVER&Lopenr=511300394&Ref=AR
>
I have a feeling it will be a Clear Channel station. I am sure thay want to maintain their lock on the talk audience in Tampa.
The Weekly Planet story has a ridiculous mention that 88.5 may already have the Liberal market sewn up. C'mon, the folks on this board, I'm sure, remember Bob Lassiter's ratings. They blew everyone else away.
There is definately room for Progressive Talk in Tampa. I wonder what the Republican party has and will do to keep the format out of Tampa? In politics it is always said that where Tampa goes (in reference to votes) the state goes.
 
WMNF

I doubt that one hour a day of liberal-left talk, one hour of "Democracy Now" and a half-hour newscast with topics selected based on the interests of the left "sews up" the market.

Remember, when John Grant was in office, the Legislature tried to cut WMNF's funding because of "all them thar lefty talk shows." Of course, the truly conservative owners (Salem and Genesis), who will put on right-wing shows
regardless of whether they're successful, have each tried to buy up as many stations as possible in the market. Maybe there'll be a "Stop Air America" movement. Maybe Brian Blair will put a headlock on the issue, and the Hillsborough County Commission will outlaw liberal talk. I'm sure they have the votes for it.
 
Re: WMNF

> I doubt that one hour a day of liberal-left talk, one hour
> of "Democracy Now" and a half-hour newscast with topics
> selected based on the interests of the left "sews up" the
> market.
>
> Remember, when John Grant was in office, the Legislature
> tried to cut WMNF's funding because of "all them thar lefty
> talk shows." Of course, the truly conservative owners (Salem
> and Genesis), who will put on right-wing shows
> regardless of whether they're successful, have each tried to
> buy up as many stations as possible in the market. Maybe
> there'll be a "Stop Air America" movement. Maybe Brian Blair
> will put a headlock on the issue, and the Hillsborough
> County Commission will outlaw liberal talk. I'm sure they
> have the votes for it.

Good for you. At least someone is willing to call the Hillsborough County Commission out for the reactionaries they are. It will take more than EQF to get those people out of office.
>
 
> > Which one?
> >
> > My bet's on 1010....
> >
> > Or, long shot, maybe one of the Spanish-language stations
> > under assault
> > by 92.5 (Mega 820???).
> >
> http://clnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCac>
> he=1&Dato=20051130&Kategori=TPACOVER&Lopenr=511300394&Ref=AR
>
> >
> I have a feeling it will be a Clear Channel station. I am
> sure thay want to maintain their lock on the talk audience
> in Tampa.

Doubtful. 1250 makes lots of $$$ for CC with no ratings (one of their AE's described it to a friend of mine as "printing money.")

Given the fact that they've been willing to broker the time in some markets, as i understand it, I would not rule out 1340.

After that one of the Spanish stations would be a good bet. I'm sure they'd love to have 820's huge daytime signal.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Given the fact that they've been willing to broker the time
> in some markets, as i understand it, I would not rule out 1340.

Out-of-towner here, but it might be helpful to know that AAR hasn't brokered since the very beginning. To my knowledge, they've got two brokered stations left, WLIB and KSQR. They said they wouldn't be brokering any more.
 
Re: WMNF / Liberal Talk / Air America

1. Weekly Planet is all about WMNF and the "alternative" scene. That comment that WMNF has it "sewn up" is rediculous. If that was the case, they've got the traditional jazz, big band, industrial, goth, and metal markets "sewn up" too.
2. Despite the earlier post, I belive that if Air America is talking to someone here, you've gotta consider 1250 WHNZ. My only question is how does Imus fit in? Would he be considered liberal enough to fit with that format?
3. Maybe it's 680. Wasn't there talk a month or so ago on this board about that station being or possibly being put up for sale?
4. I doubt Mega is gonna throw in the towel yet in Tampa. In fact, I just saw a brand new Mega 820 billboard today and I think 760 is hangin in there. As long as they remain musically different from La Nueva 92, I'd expect them to hang around a while. It's the others I'd expect to tank.
5. 1340 WTAN.... ha ha ha, Air America is better off offering there web stream to the 99.1 pirate. They'd probably have better market coverage and exposure! ha ha ha ha.... I couldn't resist.
 
> > Given the fact that they've been willing to broker the
> time
> > in some markets, as i understand it, I would not rule out
> 1340.
>
> Out-of-towner here, but it might be helpful to know that AAR
> hasn't brokered since the very beginning. To my knowledge,
> they've got two brokered stations left, WLIB and KSQR. They
> said they wouldn't be brokering any more.
>

AAR recently switched affiliates in Sacramento, and I'm not even sure they brokered with KSAC (formerly KSQR) for very long, if at all. As far as I know, WLIB is the only station they broker with.
<P ID="signature">______________
The Liberal Talk Radio Update</P>
 
> Which one?
>
> My bet's on 1010....
>
> Or, long shot, maybe one of the Spanish-language stations
> under assault
> by 92.5 (Mega 820???).
>
http://clnlb.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCac> he=1&Dato=20051130&Kategori=TPACOVER&Lopenr=511300394&Ref=AR
>

1010 is not much of a reach. Stern is leaving soon, and as far as I know, Infinity hasn't officially announced what they're doing with the signal. Infinity currently owns AAR affiliates in Seattle and Fresno.<P ID="signature">______________
The Liberal Talk Radio Update</P>
 
Re: WMNF

I'm no fan of Salem, believe me. They are doing some very questionable things as far as morally goes with their phony local studio in St. Pete and actually running things from Tampa for their Sarasota WLSS. But the one thing is that they dont take tax money, so in my opinion, they can program whatever they want. My problem is with so called "PUBLIC" radio stations that do take tax money and then say so much radical left wing crap paid for by all of us. If Air America can survive here and find commercial support, I say go for it. Like all commercial radio, if it can survive, then fine.... Anyone remember Jim Hightower on WFLA on Saturdays? Or how about the boxing announcer, Tedd Webb's cousin who does a lefty show on WFLA. But you have to have more to say on a left wing show other than Bush Lied.



> > I doubt that one hour a day of liberal-left talk, one hour
>
> > of "Democracy Now" and a half-hour newscast with topics
> > selected based on the interests of the left "sews up" the
> > market.
> >
> > Remember, when John Grant was in office, the Legislature
> > tried to cut WMNF's funding because of "all them thar
> lefty
> > talk shows." Of course, the truly conservative owners
> (Salem
> > and Genesis), who will put on right-wing shows
> > regardless of whether they're successful, have each tried
> to
> > buy up as many stations as possible in the market. Maybe
> > there'll be a "Stop Air America" movement. Maybe Brian
> Blair
> > will put a headlock on the issue, and the Hillsborough
> > County Commission will outlaw liberal talk. I'm sure they
> > have the votes for it.
>
> Good for you. At least someone is willing to call the
> Hillsborough County Commission out for the reactionaries
> they are. It will take more than EQF to get those people out
> of office.
> >
>
 
Re: WMNF

> I'm no fan of Salem, believe me. They are doing some very
> questionable things as far as morally goes with their phony
> local studio in St. Pete and actually running things from
> Tampa for their Sarasota WLSS. But the one thing is that
> they dont take tax money, so in my opinion, they can program
> whatever they want. My problem is with so called "PUBLIC"
> radio stations that do take tax money and then say so much
> radical left wing crap paid for by all of us. If Air
> America can survive here and find commercial support, I say
> go for it. Like all commercial radio, if it can survive,
> then fine.... Anyone remember Jim Hightower on WFLA on
> Saturdays? Or how about the boxing announcer, Tedd Webb's
> cousin who does a lefty show on WFLA. But you have to have
> more to say on a left wing show other than Bush Lied.

I think I was referring more to the threat of loss of tax funding making WMNF more reluctant to add liberal talk to their schedule. ALL radio is tax-subsidized to some extent, since advertising and contributions to public radio stations are tax deductible, and all stations use frequencies that, at least in theory, belong to "we the people." Even satellite radio uses airwaves, and
internet radio uses the Internet, which was developed by the military years ago with OUR MONEY.
 
> AAR recently switched affiliates in Sacramento, and I'm not
> even sure they brokered with KSAC (formerly KSQR) for very
> long, if at all. As far as I know, WLIB is the only station
> they broker with.
>

And by the way, I could see one scenario where they'd be talking to Clear Channel... in Cleveland, CC shoved Glen Beck off of WTAM to an Akron signal in favor of Jerry Springer. Would not be shocked if they did something similar here, bumping Beck to 1250 and leaving him on 1450 in Sarasota.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: WMNF / Liberal Talk / Air America

> markets "sewn up" too.
> 2. Despite the earlier post, I belive that if Air America is
> talking to someone here, you've gotta consider 1250 WHNZ.
> My only question is how does Imus fit in? Would he be
> considered liberal enough to fit with that format?

Clear Channel runs Imus on at least one of its progressive talk stations -- WWRC in Washington, D.C. That's a mistake IMHO. He definitely doesn't fit in with the Air America and other lefty programs.
 
I'm sure, remember Bob Lassiter's
> ratings. They blew everyone else away.
> There is definately room for Progressive Talk in Tampa. I
> wonder what the Republican party has and will do to keep the
> format out of Tampa? In politics it is always said that
> where Tampa goes (in reference to votes) the state goes.
>

One reason Bob did well is that Bob worked, lived and broadcasted from the Bay Area. He was local. Bob dealt with national and local topics.

In no way shape or form is Al Franken or whats-her-name going to pull in those kind of numbers and loyalty from this market.

*Locally* based progressive talk? Bring it.
 
Re: WMNF / Liberal Talk / Air America

> > markets "sewn up" too.
> > 2. Despite the earlier post, I belive that if Air America
> is
> > talking to someone here, you've gotta consider 1250 WHNZ.
>
> > My only question is how does Imus fit in? Would he be
> > considered liberal enough to fit with that format?
>
> Clear Channel runs Imus on at least one of its progressive
> talk stations -- WWRC in Washington, D.C. That's a mistake
> IMHO. He definitely doesn't fit in with the Air America and
> other lefty programs.
>

What's funny is Imus' show also airs on a sister station in D.C.

With decisions like this, no wonder WWRC gets crappy ratings.<P ID="signature">______________
The Liberal Talk Radio Update</P>
 
Randi Rhodes has already been in this market. Was on WSUN same time Neil Rogers was on. Neil, God!!

A whiny Miami Beach princess



> I'm sure, remember Bob Lassiter's
> > ratings. They blew everyone else away.
> > There is definately room for Progressive Talk in Tampa. I
> > wonder what the Republican party has and will do to keep
> the
> > format out of Tampa? In politics it is always said that
> > where Tampa goes (in reference to votes) the state goes.
> >
>
> One reason Bob did well is that Bob worked, lived and
> broadcasted from the Bay Area. He was local. Bob dealt with
> national and local topics.
>
> In no way shape or form is Al Franken or whats-her-name
> going to pull in those kind of numbers and loyalty from this
> market.
>
> *Locally* based progressive talk? Bring it.
>
 
Randi Rhodes

> A whiny Miami Beach princess

That was schtick. Have you heard her Air America show? It's much better.

What about Lionel? He STARTED in Tampa (as a caller no less). Is he heard on any stations in Tampa? I don't think so.
 
Re: Randi Rhodes

I think Lionel is on 1450 in Sarasota at nite. Surprised he's not on WFLA...


> > A whiny Miami Beach princess
>
> That was schtick. Have you heard her Air America show?
> It's much better.
>
> What about Lionel? He STARTED in Tampa (as a caller no
> less). Is he heard on any stations in Tampa? I don't think
> so.
>
 
Imus????? Who cares.

Look, if you did not grow up listening to Imus, you don't care for him. As many stations he has been bounced around on in this market it really looks like the show does not work here.

Also, I think a few of the posters criticizing talk show hosts on a personal level should be ashamed. There is a lot of crap talk around the radio dial already.
 
Re: Randi Rhodes

> I think Lionel is on 1450 in Sarasota at nite. Surprised
> he's not on WFLA...
>
>
> > > A whiny Miami Beach princess
> >
> > That was schtick. Have you heard her Air America show?
> > It's much better.
> >
> > What about Lionel? He STARTED in Tampa (as a caller no
> > less). Is he heard on any stations in Tampa? I don't
> think
> > so.
> >
>

he was for awhile, when he first went national.....Well, we shall see if Ms Rhodes or any of the AA crowd returns...hey, if it can be sold and there are listeners, so be it....

But for me, if you aren't local, chances are I'm not listening, regardless of which side of the aisle youre on....
 
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