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Well, They're at it again!

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I spend a lot of time during the afternoon drive home and the weekends listening to WAMS. I work next door to the Philly airport and can hear the station loud and clear all the way back to Newark. I love the Scott Shannon True Oldies format and Scott's bits. But now WAMS is back to being its unprofessional self. Some times it's Scott, then another time it will be their computer spitting out music. You never know what is going to happen.Sunday afternoon, they had a local host on. Not that he sounded bad. But he did not know his stuff. He would play, for example, a Lesley Gore song from 1965 and say the song was from 1961. Hey, her first hit was 1963. If you are going to try to sound like a fountain of oldies knowledge, do your research. Don't open the mike and say things you haven't checked first.When a true pro like Scott Shannon is being paid for, why not use him instead of a guy who doesn't know the music?
 
Congratulations! The first "WAMS" (not the real WAMS, of course) post on the new board.Replacing canned programming with something live and local. Heaven forfend! If this catches on, the real WAMS might start doing actual live traffic reports.And DJ's babbling on and spouting misinformation. Gee, that's never happened before. ::) It's one thing when Watson does it but for a DJ, that's inexcusable! The good news here is apparently any friends of the owner (and it seems like there are a few of those who post here) who wants can go in and play DJ at odd hours.
 
I listened on line most of the day today and a live jock, (yes LIVE, weather, news information he had it all) said that Scott will stay on in the morning with the True oldies then live a 10am with John Murphy, then Dave Bartley 2-6 and back to Scott at 6p. The all request oldies show with Larry Edwards will be on sometime in June every Friday at 6P. If you listen, you will know whats going on.
 
Re: Well, They're at it again! Oh Boy!! Another Know It All!!

Hey,Tux... Why don't you give the guy a break!! Maybe you should be on the air at 1260 WAMS since you are such an authority on music trivia and know everything about everything... I guess you even know when the true 1380 WAMS signed on and off the air for good....A true walking Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Billboard Chart Data Book....
 
Re: Well, They're at it again! Oh Boy!! Another Know It All!!

Big Al said:
Hey,Tux... Why don't you give the guy a break!! Maybe you should be on the air at 1260 WAMS since you are such an authority on music trivia and know everything about everything... I guess you even know when the true 1380 WAMS signed on and off the air for good....A true walking Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Billboard Chart Data Book....
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In defense of the poster named WTUX, here's the way I see it: The WAMS call letters mean something very special to the baby boomers in earshot of the 1260 tower; and the 1260 frequency means something special to the older folks around Newark. In their heydays in the 60s and 70s, both 1380 WAMS and 1260 WNRK meant professional, reliable entertainment and service. Obviously, the current owner picked the WAMS calls for a reason -- a recognition of what they mean to thousands of people in northern Delaware who listened to the oldies back when they were new. But putting out a ragged product with a respectable label doesn't make the product better -- it only diminishes the cred of the label. The uneven programming and multiple flips of the format wheel defames the memory of both 1380 and 1260. A bad product spits in the faces of both the people who worked there in the old days and those who loved listening. If WTUX is who I think he is, I know he worked at WNRK under the last owner who really respected his audience and tried as hard as hell to give them a worthwhile product. So is it any wonder he might take the flaws of the current operation a little personally?? I know I do; sign me: 1380 WAMS Alumnus.
 
Well, I finally listened to "WAMS" - and I was not impressed.Satellite Shannon sounded canned, generic and vanilla. Not the Scott Shannon I remember in New York. The same lowest-common-denominator oldies playlist every other "elevator oldies" stations takes off a dish. Even OGL has more life to it. And there is nothing about what I heard that had personality or sounded local. It's one thing to voice track - it's another to sound voice tracked.I used to listen online to an oldies station in Hagerstown (a much smaller market than Wilmington). The owner was a former sales manager for WCAU-FM. He bought some used computer equipment on e-Bay and got some Philly Top 40 jocks to voice track - and it sounded live and like Real Oldies - even Real Top 40. "WAMS" could do the same. Get some old time jocks from this area to voice track with a little creativity. Put together a playlist that reflects what was popular locally back in the day. Recreate the sound of WAMS - not just the call letters. If somebody can do it in Hagerstown, it can be done in Wilmington.Heck, if somebody can run a real LIVE Oldies station in Vineland, somebody could even do THAT in Wilmington.But as long as some people are willing to come on this board and sing praises for garbage radio and incompetent management - just because it's local - why should "WAMS" bother? Besides, the station is about due for another flip. ::)
 
Actually, I do know when WAMS signed on. 1947/48. They were 1kw. They had an FM station also, just as WTUX (1290) did. The WAMS FM was on the air for 1 hour a day, since the AM had to go off the air for an hour in mid-day when a New Jersey station went on the air for one hour! The religious station was allowed to do this for several years until the FCC forbid stations to be on for only a few hours per day. WAMS never made an attempt to develop the FMer and gave back the license. WTUX lost their's in a little run-in with the FCC over airing race esults.I started working in the Wilmington market in 1967, getting out of the business in the early part of this decade. So with nearly 35 years in the business, including 6 with the old WTUX, I know something about how radio should run.
 
Ah, and now they are back at one thing one day, something else the next. Thursday, V/T dj, Friday just the cumputer playing music and jingles in pm drive. Amateur Hour is alive and well!
 
I just want to say that WTUX should get a life, this person was involved with the station long ago and most likely can not find a station that will hire him. How come you didnt purchase WAMS? Ohhhh no MONEY. [EDIT*] Dont live in the past move on my OLD friend. [EDIT-personal attack]
 
A bitter WAMS employee or owner there Radioeng? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Given the history of the former WAMS, you are bound to get heat, considering your station is using a vintage call sign, however the can't stay on the air or stick to one format for more than a day or so. Perhaps folks like WTUX think it's disgusting that your station is using a vintage call sign and associating it with a station that has no direction whatsoever.

I remember the old WNRK days, with Swap Shop, when the station was called "The Great AM...1260 WNRK." I know there is no room for small Mom & Pop stations like that anymore...but I wish 1260 AM in Newark could be the WNRK of old.
 
WTUX said:
I spend a lot of time during the afternoon drive home and the weekends listening to WAMS. I work next door to the Philly airport and can hear the station loud and clear all the way back to Newark. I love the Scott Shannon True Oldies format and Scott's bits. But now WAMS is back to being its unprofessional self. Some times it's Scott, then another time it will be their computer spitting out music. You never know what is going to happen.Sunday afternoon, they had a local host on. Not that he sounded bad. But he did not know his stuff. He would play, for example, a Lesley Gore song from 1965 and say the song was from 1961. Hey, her first hit was 1963. If you are going to try to sound like a fountain of oldies knowledge, do your research. Don't open the mike and say things you haven't checked first.When a true pro like Scott Shannon is being paid for, why not use him instead of a guy who doesn't know the music?
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Don't feel bad, I worked with a guy I was relieving from his shift who played a Steve Winwood song and on the outro he announced Stevie Winwood "Higher Love" who use to be I think with the Skeeter Davis Band.
Well he wasn't there next weekend even though we were adult contemporary.
 
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