Top station in the useless 6+ books. The top billing station in NY is CBS-AM, which is news.crainbebo said:
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mikerock said:
That is an odd thing to say about a station whose audience, over the last several years of PPM, has been between 66% and 70% male.
crainbebo said:
It's not a 1.6 in 25-54 men, which is the very lucrative target for ESPN. And the last book included the week where the AM simulcast was ended, causing a 70% temporary drop in listening; although it snapped right back to the previous AM only levels, a whole week was lost in the transition. Such a switch is a 6 to 12 month proposition, not a 1 week knee-jerk matter.
Three of the five top billers in New York City are News, News and Sports. The top biller in the USA is FM only all news!
Hardrocker9 said:
Completely agree!! it's utter BS that CBS is changing a needed format in NYC (that sounded great so far btw), to sports..really???? ...I seriously almost s@#$ myself when I read the news the other day!! I hate corporate so much! God forbid we have a station in NY that sounds a bit different and is a break from all the constant pop filling up the airwaves, we couldn't have that!! ... so typical...sigh...
musik187 said:
I suggest you read the Edison Youth Study 2010. It shows the dramatic decline in interest in alternative by the demos that used to feed younger listeners into the format.
Quote:
"Music tastes have shifted among 12-24s over the past decade: those radio listeners who indicated that Top 40/Pop stations were their favorite have more than doubled, while Alternative Rock stations were selected by half as many listeners in 2010 as in 2000."
The release, with links, is at
http://www.edisonresearch.com/home/...leases_the_american_youth_study_2010_part.php
This follow up to the original 2000 study also shows a similarly dramatic decline in interest in rock among the original group, who are now 25 to 37 years old.
Obviously, what can be seen here is that alternative as a separate genre is in decline and does not offer significant future incentives to a broadcast operator as a format option.
And, just as obviously, the study shows why CHR / pop stations are doing so well today and why we may expect even more variants within that musical arena.
Well, I was wrong, and I apologize for this erroneous statement. I did not fathom the possibility that CBS would have purchased WLNY-TV for this purpose, nor to potentially liquidate its spectrum in any future fcc auction.Giacomo Siffredi said:
This is certainly a different course than CBS has taken with it's similar arrangement with KCAL-TV Los Angeles. But I guess this development helps to explain the dearth of Long Island news coverage on the station since acquisition. After all, if one day there is no TV station licensed to Riverhead, Long Island, there is no real need to program to that audience, is there?
If what is being reported on the NYRMB and elsewhere today is true, and these are the actual details of what is being proposed, it should serve as a prime example of how laws are written to be exploited by high-priced attorneys who are only available to ultra-wealthy mega corporations. And the consequence is that average individuals, in this case the TV audience on Long Island, get screwed.
Mark Jeffries said:
Point well taken, however I was simply venting about losing a station that I think was sounding really good so far, just as a fan of say, sports, or another format would do the same. Maybe I was a bit hard, but it's just annoying to see happen, that's all, but trust me I'll live lol...Also, I am not as hostile to commercial radio as you think. I grew up loving top 40 in NYC, and still love a lot of top 40 stuff also, but it's just nice to have something different on the dial and I feel that radio hardly ever does that anymore. But hey, whatever works I guess...
Giacomo Siffredi said:
The sheer fact that one company owns the two biggest sources of LI news by far is deplorable. But that's for another thread.
liradioisbad said:
You are referring to Cablevision and Newsday?
DavidEduardo said:
Yeah. Specifically News 12 Long Island and Newsday. I don't count the NYC-based media since they're mainly concerned with NYC issues.
I believe Cablevision fought nail and tooth against must carry rules in the early 90's so they wouldn't have been forced to carry WLNY (then WLIG), back when they had their own Long Island-centric newscast.
In response to the Alternative format being less popular; yes, while I think it has declined in popularity gradually since around 2000, there have been quite a few Alt. bands crossing over to CHR since 2010, particularly in the past year, which may generate new interest in the format. Foster The People, Gotye, Fun, Neon Trees, etc. I would say the format seems to have bottomed out. I doubt it will ever reach the popularity it enjoyed in the 90s again, but I think the crossover to CHR may say something about the format.
reelyreal said:
Internet radio is where it's at my friend. Get a $5 FM transmitter from Five Below, download the TuneIn Radio app, or iHeartRadio, and enjoy thousands of rock alternative stations around the world. My data cap doesn't max out and I use TuneIn nearly 4 hours a day in the car or bus, and even a bonus if you can find free public wifi spots from your cable providers.
WRXP is only .3 behind 92.3 Now and is trending upward, while Now is on a slide. I'd imagine that WRXP's demo skews a bit older and may be a bit more appealing to buyers than Now, so CBS would be foolish to flip WRXP now. I agree that alternative is having a bit of a resurgence. The past year or two has seen a number of crossovers, not to mention a fair deal of alternative songs being used in commercials. Right now, 'RXP is doing a nice job balancing the newer product, especially the crossover stuff, with the big tracks from the 90s and early 2000s. NYC has enough CHR and pop music. The only down side is CBS's mis-management of its rock properties. If by some miracle CBS is to keep 'RXP as a rock station, they should not make too many tweaks--what Merlin has done seems to be working.
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Jacko said:
They bought it for a WFAN on FM presence. There is nearly no way they will reverse the public statements about putting WFAN on the new acquisition.
liradioisbad said:
Those days were actually quite interesting. Where Cablevision really fought the rimshot UHF stations (WLNY-TV, WRNN-TV, etc.) was when they were pushing for carriage across the entire Cablevision footprint. For example, WRNN -- a Kingston, NY TV station, was looking for carriage on LI and NJ systems. There was no demand for the channel...WRNN just wanted to be in more homes to command a bigger rate from the infomercial providers. There were years of court cases and negotiations there. And, while both sides had some valid points, the so-called local news on WRNN and others was a real hack job...maybe 30 minutes a day of poor production surrounded by 23.5 hours of infomercials and religion...which is more or less what WRNN is today. Love or hate News 12, they do put out a respectable product with real journalists.
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