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WFGW heads west

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WMIT (106.9) and WFGW (1010) recently moved their studios from US Hwy 70 to The Cove. I noticed on 100000watts.com that WFGW has an application to downgrade from 50,000 watts/500 watts to 47,000 watts/90 watts and the tower site will be moved out of Black Mountain and closer to Asheville to the west. It looks like they will only be using 1 tower at the new site according to fcc.gov.

I guess the old US Hwy 70 site will be razed. I always look forward to seeing those towers as I pass by on I-40 on my way to Asheville.
 
The old studios were a show place. The property was sold so a grocery distribution center could be built.
I guess money talks.
 
The studios were designed to be very welcoming and comfortable to guests and staff. The old entrance, lobby, and kitchen were decorated and designed by Ruth Graham after the Grahams got the airport property.

I spent 17 years in that building. More like home than work.

They have a great new location, and I know they will keep on doing a great job. But no view can beat the view across the valley looking south from the old FM studio. The memories of that place will always be the real home of WFGW/WMIT to me.
 
Preacherdude said:
The studios were designed to be very welcoming and comfortable to guests and staff. The old entrance, lobby, and kitchen were decorated and designed by Ruth Graham after the Grahams got the airport property.

I spent 17 years in that building. More like home than work.

They have a great new location, and I know they will keep on doing a great job. But no view can beat the view across the valley looking south from the old FM studio. The memories of that place will always be the real home of WFGW/WMIT to me.

Preacherdude...good to see you back lurking the boards. You should remember this (or Mr Neese, if he's around)... wasn't it just a mere 15-20 years ago that BRB did a complete overhaul of the WFGW AM antenna system? Until NOW, I believe they've always had 50kw directional days, observed at least half that for critical hours, and in the early days were daytime only. Sometime around 1980 (maybe?), it seems they were able to stay on all night at maybe 18 watts? Then around the mid 90s, I believe the entire AM facility was razed and a new 4-tower (formerly 3 towers) array arose giving them 500watts night. Relatively speaking, I would still consider that a fairly new AM facility -- which is sad given that it has now vanished from the old airstrip (the now former BRB facilities were in an old airport facility) and the signal has really been downgraded to a single AM stick -- sharing AM 1350 WZGM's tower. I guess we cannot deny that AM is dying, but stations downgrading their facilities certainly doesn't help the cause.

By the way, an Asheville Citizen Times article from over a year ago I believe stated that BRB (Blue Ridge Broadcasting) was approached by Ingles (Grocery Stores) to expand their distribution facility which is adjacent to the BRB property. BRB stated that they felt this was opportunity to use their facilities more efficiently to move to the Cove implying that the ministries of both The Cove and BRB would complement each other. Economically and minsterially (is that a word?), I must agree that it makes sense. But, my nostalgic side misses the way it was.

Eric
 
I wasn't aware this station was allowed to broadcast at night.

I don't see turning down the power to 47,000 watts as making a difference. That's not enough to change anything if its nondirectional.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I wasn't aware this station was allowed to broadcast at night.

I don't see turning down the power to 47,000 watts as making a difference. That's not enough to change anything if its nondirectional.

I bet it make a small difference on paper, in the mathmatical calculations, but in the real world? I seriously doubt that anyone would ever notice a bit of difference.

Still, the math, the calculations on paper is what matters to the FCC Folks.
 
Actually, this is an upgrade. The station is going from DA to non-DA...and no more critical hours.
 
eacalhoun1 said:

Preacherdude...good to see you back lurking the boards. You should remember this (or Mr Neese, if he's around)... wasn't it just a mere 15-20 years ago that BRB did a complete overhaul of the WFGW AM antenna system? Until NOW, I believe they've always had 50kw directional days, observed at least half that for critical hours, and in the early days were daytime only. Sometime around 1980 (maybe?), it seems they were able to stay on all night at maybe 18 watts? Then around the mid 90s, I believe the entire AM facility was razed and a new 4-tower (formerly 3 towers) array arose giving them 500watts night. Relatively speaking, I would still consider that a fairly new AM facility -- which is sad given that it has now vanished from the old airstrip (the now former BRB facilities were in an old airport facility) and the signal has really been downgraded to a single AM stick -- sharing AM 1350 WZGM's tower. I guess we cannot deny that AM is dying, but stations downgrading their facilities certainly doesn't help the cause.

By the way, an Asheville Citizen Times article from over a year ago I believe stated that BRB (Blue Ridge Broadcasting) was approached by Ingles (Grocery Stores) to expand their distribution facility which is adjacent to the BRB property. BRB stated that they felt this was opportunity to use their facilities more efficiently to move to the Cove implying that the ministries of both The Cove and BRB would complement each other. Economically and minsterially (is that a word?), I must agree that it makes sense. But, my nostalgic side misses the way it was.

Eric

Eric,

We did the rebuild in the early 1990s, and if I remember correctly, went back on the air with 50KW day, 19KW critical, and 500 watts on October 1992. Added a new tower and increased nighttime. Didn't help too much in coverage with the critical and night increase, but Harold Munn, the consultant and a board member as well, was insistent on directionals, so that's what we did. Tim Neese can give you more technical details.

Programming was my job, and I talked the board into a "classy" southern gospel (no twangy singers or dollar a holler preachers, just smooth quartets and good soloists, like Cathedrals and Squire Parsons.) Did pretty good, faithful listeners loved it, never really financially held its own, as was non-commercial and there was no way we could get enough donations from listeners to even pay its power bills. It was pretty much supplemented by the fm. Started getting more notice locally when I asked Little Joe Brown to bring his Sunday morning show from WSKY to WFGW. He had tons of faithful followers who were always mad they couldn't get him from Asheville west until sunrise! He was a hoot to get to know, and an encyclopedia of WNC radio.

I must admit, the 90s were not as much like work as it was play! I did the fm morning show, no pressure just playing music and having a good time praying, reading scripture, and laughing with the news guys and others who dropped in. Then at 9am, I put on my am pd hat, and "played" radio the rest of the day. I could write a book about the pranks we pulled on each other, our "wrestling league" among the announcers, hiding under the am board and grabbing Louis Grant's leg while he was on the air, kicking a hole in the studio door while chasing David Carmichael through the building, and on and on! But i know we reached a lot of people for Christ, and more times than I can remember we prayed with folks, helped them through the tough times, and shared Jesus with joy. Never fought for ratings, but pulled pretty good numbers anyway, especially on fm in Charlotte.

It is sad, but those simple fun days of radio, secular or Christian, will probably never return.
 
Preacherdude said:
It is sad, but those simple fun days of radio, secular or Christian, will probably never return.

Can I get an AMEN from the board to that?

I miss working in radio as it was from 1966 until about 1995 when I dropped out, it was loads of fun, rarely seemed like work and most of the time paid decent.

When the pay went from decent to OK to poor, and it stopped being fun and started feeling like work, I knew it was time for me to make a hasty exit. If it is going to feel like work, then it also needs to pay like real work, and at that time in small and mid size markets it did not pay appropriately.

I would love to get back into radio even for a weekend show as long as it was fun but there are just no good opportunities around here for that.

SIGH I miss good old radio.
 
Yeah, I miss the old fun days, but I can't complain. I love being a pastor.

I remember listening to you, Mr. Tudor, when we both were much younger. Thought you were great.

Wouldn't it be cool if all of us "fossils" of the good old days could find a place to play radio and have fun again?
 
Preacherdude said:
Yeah, I miss the old fun days, but I can't complain. I love being a pastor.

I remember listening to you, Mr. Tudor, when we both were much younger. Thought you were great.

Wouldn't it be cool if all of us "fossils" of the good old days could find a place to play radio and have fun again?

Wow, thanks for the compliment. I wish management had felt the same, maybe I would still be behind a mike.

Maybe one day all us old fossils may have a place, I truly believe the public in general does not like the pablum they are being fed by the mega owners like CC, but they have very little choice these days.

It is still my dream to one day own a station where all us old fossils can ply our trade and have fun AND make money too, while entertaining and informing the public.

It can be done, but it would require a dedicated staff of jocks, programmers, management, SALES PROFESSIONALS who totally believein radio, and deep pockets to keep it running for a couple of years until the cash flow could support it. That is the major problem, keeping it running at the standard we would all want until the cash flow came in, after getting numbers in Arbitron. Until those numbers are there, cash flow will be minimal and local only. Been there, done that with Delightful 104.3 in Marion. The ownership group would not commit to the funding necessary to keep it running until the numbers were there and the sales started rolling in. so the cost cutting started, and it was eventually sold and now belongs to the evil CC group.

One day I hope........
 
LaidBackJack said:
Actually, this is an upgrade. The station is going from DA to non-DA...and no more critical hours.
I should have made it clearer what I was referring to. If you go from directional to non-directioanl, it would seem to me that a major power reduction is needed.

Where I live a station at 1010 is so strong the radio sounds as if it would break. But I'll bet if I went further west that would change.

I do miss the days when I could turn to WFGW on Sunday morning coming home from the mountains and hear beautiful music. 94.5 FM still has it, but with all the mountains there's a signal tradeoff. I can't believe what passes for Christian "music" these days.
 
There is a very slight reduction from 50kw to 47 kw. There will be improvement in some directions, and less signal in others. Reason is a directional antenna usually has gain in some directions over a non-d. The biggest bonus for the station will be the elimination of critical hours restrictions. Sadly, the terrible ground conductivity in the area makes that 50kw signal perform more like 5kw.
 
But 90 watts at night won't go very far at all. I don't know where the new transmiter site is but it may not cover the city of license at night. ???


Powell
 
Powell,

The transmitter site will be colocated with 1350, which is only a stone's throw from downtown Black Mtn. You're right- 90 watts at any time in that area isn't going far.
 
Powell E. Way III W4OPW said:
But 90 watts at night won't go very far at all. I don't know where the new transmiter site is but it may not cover the city of license at night. ???


Powell

Off subject, but just a quick question..You have a very old HAM call..Did you ever know Fred Honeycutt W4BUL?
 
Is that the same Fred Honeycutt who was an engineer for Davidson County Broadcasting in Lexington, NC?
Hasn't he gone on to that big repeater in the sky?
???
 
That was indeed the same Fred Honeycutt. He is indeed a silent key.
 
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