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WFME STA

kevtronics said:
620 WSNR also has a CP to move to the WPAT/WNSW site, so WFME cannot use it as their permanent site unless a quadplex is feasible or WSNR is willing to give up on their plan.
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They really need to stop adding stations to the WPAT/WNSW site. Adding WFME is bad enough when it comes to adjacent channel DXing because I live only 3 miles away from that site. Now, they want to add WSNR, too. There goes 610 and 630 if that happens.
 
Weiserguy said:
Oh don't be such a wise-ass, David.
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Much of Cuba, particularly the western part and the far southeast, have had nearly no power for all of the last 4 to 5 weeks. Those are not "outages" when they last 3, 4, 5 days or more at a time... and come back only to fail again.
Weiserguy said:
Care to guess how many times my power has suddenly gone dead in just the last six weeks?
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For how many total minutes? In Cuba, it is measured in whole days and weeks.
Weiserguy said:
Here in the definitely-first-world Silicon Valley, courtesy of our illustrious PG&E? Shit happens everywhere. You don't need to be living in a "workers' paradise" to experience blackouts.
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I was in a number of hurricanes, the last one had my home with no electricity for 8 total days. At the stations, we were on generators for 5 days at the studios and for about two weeks at the transmitter.

Many of the power "failures" in California are not failures at all: they are caused by the imposed liability put on power companies if winds cause wires to spark and cause forest fires. To avoid that, the power companies have no alternative but to simply shut off power every time there are high winds. This is what you get when you have people who, at best, went to law school legislating about technology. Same results as giving a loaded machine gun to a chimpanzee.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Much of Cuba, particularly the western part and the far southeast, have had nearly no power for all of the last 4 to 5 weeks. Those are not "outages" when they last 3, 4, 5 days or more at a time... and come back only to fail again.

For how many total minutes? In Cuba, it is measured in whole days and weeks.

I was in a number of hurricanes, the last one had my home with no electricity for 8 total days. At the stations, we were on generators for 5 days at the studios and for about two weeks at the transmitter.

Many of the power "failures" in California are not failures at all: they are caused by the imposed liability put on power companies if winds cause wires to spark and cause forest fires. To avoid that, the power companies have no alternative but to simply shut off power every time there are high winds. This is what you get when you have people who, at best, went to law school legislating about technology. Same results as giving a loaded machine gun to a chimpanzee.
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Cubas jammy jam jammer musheen against Marti is on.. heard it on 11930 tonight hours after marti signed off
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Cubas jammy jam jammer musheen against Marti is on.. heard it on 11930 tonight hours after marti signed off
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On short wave, they only have one transmitter jamming Martí. On 1180 AM there are about 20 transmitters all across the island.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Many of the power "failures" in California are not failures at all: they are caused by the imposed liability put on power companies if winds cause wires to spark and cause forest fires. To avoid that, the power companies have no alternative but to simply shut off power every time there are high winds. This is what you get when you have people who, at best, went to law school legislating about technology. Same results as giving a loaded machine gun to a chimpanzee.
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What started all of that was PG&E having a profit-boosting "run to fail" policy to keep using 100+ year old equipment, even when they knew it was badly in need of replacement, until the lines snapped due to age and fatigue and sparked deadly forest fires.

They could solve the problem by actually replacing the decrepit equipment, but again, it's cheaper and easier to just shut off the power every time the wind blows... and then claim, as you say, they have "no alternative".

www.nytimes.com

California Wildfires: How PG&E Ignored Risks in Favor of Profits (Published 2019)

Pacific Gas & Electric, California’s largest utility, has been responsible for wildfires in recent years that destroyed hundreds of thousands of acres. Several proved fatal.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
DavidEduardo said:
On short wave, they only have one transmitter jamming Martí.
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Radio Marti is usually on three shortwave frequencies throughout the day and night, and all normally have some jamming activity. It is possible those jammers are using multiple transmitters in different parts of the island, though there is no easy way to verify this.
 
DavidEduardo said:
On short wave, they only have one transmitter jamming Martí. On 1180 AM there are about 20 transmitters all across the island.
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it must be a spread spectrum transmitter than because ive heard it on 4 frequencies at once before.. 9 mhz something, i think 2 11 mhz channels and one at 13mhz.
 
KilowattKat said:
An update from Inside Radio:

www.insideradio.com

Family Radio Latest Plan Gets New York’s WFME Back On The Air.

Family Radio’s WFME New York (1560) has reason to be thankful. It has been hunting for a new home for its transmitter since last spring, and after several earlier ideas
www.insideradio.com www.insideradio.com
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Just for clarification. The article states that Family Radio lost it's AM transmitter site. Which is true, but actually Family Radio sold the land where the transmitter site was for $51 million. No one should feel any empathy for FR "losing" their transmitter site, they cashed out, as was their right to do so. Just let's be straight about it.
 
RadioGuy1864 said:
Just for clarification. The article states that Family Radio lost it's AM transmitter site. Which is true, but actually Family Radio sold the land where the transmitter site was for $51 million. No one should feel any empathy for FR "losing" their transmitter site, they cashed out, as was their right to do so. Just let's be straight about it.
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Another error…SBS does not own WPAT. Multicultural does. SBS owns WPAT-FM.
 
kevtronics said:
620 WSNR also has a CP to move to the WPAT/WNSW site, so WFME cannot use it as their permanent site unless a quadplex is feasible or WSNR is willing to give up on their plan.
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I recall visiting the NYC area to see family in the early 2000's and 620 had an awful signal west of their site, as you drove around.

I had talked at the time with the stations chief engr, he was new to the station, and he said that the people that had 620 when its xmtr site moved from Livingston to Lyndhurst and relicensed it to Jersey City took the "more or less" exact DA design that 620 operated with in Livingston, NJ and built it in Lyndhurst.
It had problems he said.

Like I said driving around west of site, the signal was bad from that Lyndhurst site. Nulls it needed - but bad for such a large population west of the site.

When it was WVNJ 620 Newark driving to the backside of the Livingston array and you could see the towers in line and when you saw them and got in line with them the signal almost completely disappeared, it was fun being a teenage radio nerd and in the car with other friends that had no interest in how AM radio worked . . . let alone the type of music WVNJ was playing.

I thought it was FUN!

The Livingston site signal was strong, naturally over Newark (east of site), the city of license and its suburbs, but its backside was bad too.
 
alok said:
Like I said driving around west of site, the signal was bad from that Lyndhurst site. Nulls it needed - but bad for such a large population west of the site.
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WSNR's daytime pattern looks like the Nickelodeon "splat" logo:

WSNR_AM_LD.gif
 
TheBigA said:
Here's a quote from the FCC order.
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However, in keeping with the above policy, any future STA extension request will carry an increased burden to demonstrate one or
more of the above STA criteria. Accordingly, if Family seeks a further STA extension in lieu of a
modification application to operate at reduced power, it must include a detailed narrative describing all
the steps it has taken to return the Station to licensed operation—including specific sites under
consideration or negotiation—and, if needed, a demonstration that any lack of progress is due to
circumstances outside of Family’s control. We remind Family that timely restoration of permanent
facilities is the responsibility of the licensee and should be undertaken expeditiously.
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Turn out that order wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. A month ago, WFME filed yet another STA extension using a direct copy-paste from the explanation they gave a year ago, and it got approved. So much for that "increased burden".
 
Could WFME have settled on the WPAT tower site and now forced to wait for WSNR to get going on their CP and then coordinate a quadplex with WSNR? WFME admitted that the WPAT towers might be unsuitable but not that the towers were unsuitable.

Or,

Given that WFME is operating and serving the public interest as opposed to silent, could the FCC tacitly let the STA go on and on? Unless if some other station (KGOW? KNZR? 3 watt WWYC?) decides to apply to increase its power then the application would be considered on its merits and WFME not considered an incumbent?
 
Looks like WFME 1560 is now broadcasting from the 930 WPAT & 1430 WNSW site in Clifton, NJ.

Afew days ago I was tuning around an SDR receiver on the Internet located in Milford, PA (near NJ/PA stateline, northeast PA area) and I heard WFME pretty loud and strong. I thought - no way can this be the "temporary wire" in West Orange, NJ on-top of the hill.

I e-mailed Family Radio and they said this. They are now at the Clifton, NJ site, at 10kw. Maybe some of you knew, but I did not!

If I missed . . . here . . . oh well !!!

here is the site . . . they are on with 930 WPAT (WPAT's original site), 1430 WNSW (1430 original site use to be in Union, NJ) and now 1560 WFME site.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/40%C2%B050'59.4%22N+74%C2%B010'57.5%22W/@40.8490098,-74.1809479,3a,46.9y,300.98h,112.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfxltWZYll-T7FP_70jnNxg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-22.525380041418927%26panoid%3DfxltWZYll-T7FP_70jnNxg%26yaw%3D300.9795815006869!7i16384!8i8192!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d40.849822!4d-74.182645?hl=en&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
 


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