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What a Joke

Based on the thread title, I thought this was going to be another thread attacking The Galloping Gourmet...
 
MarcB said:
The Donny Osmond Show Website is claiming 97.7 WSNI in Keene, New Hampshire as their Boston affiliate. I've been to Keene before. It's been my experience that you can't get Boston FMers there and I'm willing to bet that WSNI can not be picked up in Boston. http://www.donny.com/

That's not the only anomalous affiliate on the list; they claim WBRK-AM as their Albany, NY outlet. WBRK is tough enough to pick up in the Albany area, without an adjacent station on 1330 in nearby Troy, NY. One laugh-out-loud error is provided by Chris Matthews' weekend broadcast TV show. If you go to his website for that particular show (NOT the MSNBC version) and click on 'Where To Watch', then choose Massachusetts, you get WCVB-TV, Boston, and WGEM-TV in Quincy. Duh...WGEM-TV is in Quincy, ILLINOIS.
 
Laurence Glavin said:
The Donny Osmond Show Website is claiming 97.7 WSNI in Keene, New Hampshire as their Boston affiliate. I've been to Keene before. It's been my experience that you can't get Boston FMers there and I'm willing to bet that WSNI can not be picked up in Boston. http://www.donny.com/

It's more "network think" than "audience think". Networks try to clear a spots and programs in all the major markets, if they can't, they move to the nearest station (for a time) with the intention of moving closer as the situation changes.

You might recall that Rush used to be on WCAP as a Boston affiliate, Savage's show, Bob Brinkers, were all on WCAP. As time when on and they secured better stations in the market, they moved in closer. You might recall Larry Kings radio show started like that too. Delilah's show started like that too. (Thats the only problem with being a suburban show taking a good network program....as soon as the bigger stations want the show, it gets yanked from you.

With a new show like Donny's, no one in a major market is going to carry it...nor even some rimshotters. It's an unproven show, with no track record. It makes sense for stations that are looking for a cheap (i.e...free) show to start running it.

Most shows without a track record have to start somewhere. And quite often it's the station with nothing to lose.

The Donny show may be on in Keene as their nearest "Boston affilliate" for now, but it doesn't mean they have stopped efforts at trying to get it on the air closer to Boston.

The important thing for most network sales is to list something as an affiliate in each of the top 15 markets.
 
Don Juan said:
It's more "network think" than "audience think". Networks try to clear a spots and programs in all the major markets, if they can't, they move to the nearest station (for a time) with the intention of moving closer as the situation changes.
The important thing for most network sales is to list something as an affiliate in each of the top 15 markets.

That, of course is true, but that in no way justifies the outright lies in the meantime, where such fraud and deception cheats advertisers out of their money.
 
JIBGUY said:
Don Juan said:
It's more "network think" than "audience think". Networks try to clear a spots and programs in all the major markets, if they can't, they move to the nearest station (for a time) with the intention of moving closer as the situation changes.
The important thing for most network sales is to list something as an affiliate in each of the top 15 markets.

That, of course is true, but that in no way justifies the outright lies in the meantime, where such fraud and deception cheats advertisers out of their money.

Wow...touchy? It's not a lie...it's right there for everyone to see.

It's easy to see that a station in Keene doesn't have any ratings in Boston.

Agencies are much too sophisticated these days. Nobody is getting cheated.

Down boy.
 
Don Juan said:
You might recall that Rush used to be on WCAP as a Boston affiliate, Savage's show, Bob Brinkers, were all on WCAP. As time when on and they secured better stations in the market, they moved in closer. You might recall Larry Kings radio show started like that too. Delilah's show started like that too. (Thats the only problem with being a suburban show taking a good network program....as soon as the bigger stations want the show, it gets yanked from you.

It's really an old, familiar pattern.

When Rush was just starting out...his "Providence" affiliate was actually Fall River's 1480-WSAR. Once Rush really took off, WSAR lost the show to WPRO-AM.

There's nothing new under the sun.
 
Don Juan said:
JIBGUY said:
Don Juan said:
It's more "network think" than "audience think". Networks try to clear a spots and programs in all the major markets, if they can't, they move to the nearest station (for a time) with the intention of moving closer as the situation changes.
The important thing for most network sales is to list something as an affiliate in each of the top 15 markets.

That, of course is true, but that in no way justifies the outright lies in the meantime, where such fraud and deception cheats advertisers out of their money.

Wow...touchy? It's not a lie...it's right there for everyone to see.

It's easy to see that a station in Keene doesn't have any ratings in Boston.

Agencies are much too sophisticated these days. Nobody is getting cheated.

Down boy.

I worked at a network and know what you mean. We often referred to some rimshot/pretty distant and small stations as "affiliates" in the bigger market. Such as a small, local, suburban stick in San Bernardino County, CA as an "LA" affiliate. But, at least it could be heard in some parts of the market. BUT, in this case the Keene station is inappropriate to list as a "Boston" affiliate because it's a co-channel of in-market WKAF and cannot be received at all anywhere within the Boston DMA. In this case, it IS a lie. Very misleading to advertisers.
 
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